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Walls1441
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I'm walls1441 and i condone the use of page 3

9/3/2008 4:27:20 PM

jbtilley
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First track sounds almost exactly like Constant Motion by Dream Theater. The best track IMO is Broken Beat & Scarred.

9/3/2008 7:52:12 PM

wolfpack0122
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^ that is a damn good song. I'm not sure yet what song is my favorite. There are a couple that I know I like and a few that I know will grow on me with more listens

9/4/2008 11:15:49 PM

scotieb24
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I only got to listen to a few last night on the radio premier due to the Skins game. I really like All Nightmare Long.

9/5/2008 8:01:42 AM

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You can listen to the 6 they played on the radio on Metallica.com (The Day that Never Comes, My Apocolypse, Cyanide, All Nightmare Long, Broken, Beat and Scarred, and The Judas Kiss)

9/5/2008 10:54:43 AM

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^Thanks, I am a Metclub member so I usually just visit that site. Weird that they did not include it on the exclusive site.

9/5/2008 11:09:03 AM

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i havent really listened to much of thier stuff since the black album, but i do remember a documentary where kirk was chilling at home in his practice area playing some blues.. it would be cool if he released an album with more shit like that on it..

9/5/2008 11:23:08 AM

wolfpack0122
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I just realized how awesome the Judas Kiss song is

BOW DOWN!

9/7/2008 7:24:03 PM

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[Edited on September 9, 2008 at 7:32 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2008 7:29:22 PM

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I'm a big fan of what I have heard so far.

Unforgiven 3 is a little 'meh', but other than that the songs have been pretty kick ass IMO.

9/11/2008 9:24:51 AM

scotieb24
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I'm picking my copy up today at lunch, can't wait.

9/12/2008 10:59:54 AM

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So how is it? Like the old stuff or like Load?

9/12/2008 11:41:50 AM

guitarguy
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it tries to be the old stuff but sounds like its mixed with rock from the 2000s

9/12/2008 1:19:03 PM

wolfpack0122
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you can hear the whole thing on metallica.com if you dont' want to buy it

I think its a pretty solid album

9/12/2008 1:28:32 PM

scotieb24
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I just picked up the CD and the LP at Best Buy. The LP was only 14.99. Album kicks ass!

9/12/2008 1:49:47 PM

ElGimpy
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I love it. I still need to let a couple of the songs that just got released grow on me, but all in all I think it's their most solid effort in a long time (and I'm a fan of everything they've put out, even St. Anger)

For the haters to come:

You've been saying for years that Metallica has sucked or gone in the wrong direction since Master of Puppets, or since Justice, or since the Black Album...so after 15-20 they have finally listened to you and gone the direction you want....so what do you complain about? It sounds like they TRIED to rock out old school but it's not the same, or it sounds like too mixed with other stuff, or Hetfield's voice isn't the same...It's 2008, it's been 20 years of musical influence since then, and they're 44 years old now. Did you expect a twin album to the last one you loved?

9/12/2008 3:06:42 PM

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I'd say so far my favorite songs are Broken Beat and Scarred, My Apocolypse, The Judas Kiss, and believe it or not, The Unforgiven III

double post...oh well (I'm padding)

9/12/2008 4:18:47 PM

scotieb24
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My stupid CD player in my car stopped working this week. Of all the weeks to break it had to pick this one.

9/12/2008 4:47:28 PM

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downloading off itunes as we speak. and guys saint anger sucked as a cd but it rocked live... I know, shocked me too.

9/12/2008 7:05:55 PM

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Listened to it on the way back home tonight, I like it. Pretty decent album.

9/13/2008 12:51:02 AM

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I never do this.
Once I get pissed at a band, they are blacklisted forever. GNR, Nickelback, Creed. Fuck 'em.
But, what I heard tonight was incredible. I am annoyed that you picked possibly the worst track to debut on the radio, but you made up for it. You reminded us that you are, in fact, Metallica, and you do own this bitch, and none of us would be here without you.
Lars.
James.
It's cool. I forgive you. We can be friends again.

9/13/2008 3:46:41 AM

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Nickelback and Creed? When did they piss you off? When they first formed and started to come out with music? 'Cause that's when they pissed me off.

Yeah, they probably did pick the weakest song to debut. I thought the instrumental song was pretty weak and I just can't get around thinking of STP's Creep when I hear Unforgiven III. Other than that the album is pretty good. Definitely better than St. Anger and Reload.

9/13/2008 9:57:09 AM

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To me, its the best since the black album.

9/13/2008 12:01:13 PM

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Metallica has sucked since they released Ride the Lightning.

power ballads? I mean really, what the fuck is this gay-ass "Fade to Black" power ballad poseur bullshit.

are they hoping kids will dance to this at prom??

Cry more, emo fags.

9/13/2008 2:48:03 PM

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9/13/2008 5:18:54 PM

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This album is fantastic. I feel you about the cd player breaking...mine broke right before I pulled up to the store to buy the fucking album.

9/13/2008 5:32:45 PM

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^I agree it is the best they have put out in years. U can download it on itunes.

9/13/2008 11:40:35 PM

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tentative thumbs up

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"Metallica has sucked since they released Ride the Lightning.

power ballads? I mean really, what the fuck is this gay-ass "Fade to Black" power ballad poseur bullshit.

are they hoping kids will dance to this at prom??

Cry more, emo fags."


9/14/2008 9:41:30 PM

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after listening to it for a few days...

it fucking owns






Just when I thought you couldn't get any dumber, you go and do something like this... and totally redeem yourself!

9/15/2008 11:59:13 AM

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HUGE step up from st. anger which I liked 0 songs from, still doesnt do much for me despite a handful of songs being decent. :/ i think its more that, despite some of the songs being good (and some of their best guitarwork in a longtime) its still been done better by themselves before.

production is absolutely terrible, flat, and nonorganic too which didnt help me at all but Im not going to blame that all on them.

[Edited on September 15, 2008 at 12:24 PM. Reason : ]

9/15/2008 12:02:51 PM

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9/15/2008 12:48:26 PM

tschudi
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i think it is pretty decent

9/15/2008 12:51:59 PM

marko
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i think it's pretty good too

the only thing that really frustrates me sometimes are james' lyrics

and i think i might make an alternative cover for it....i'm tired of looking at this toilet bowl

9/15/2008 1:31:44 PM

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haha, looks like im not the only one that thinks the recording/mixing/mastering on this sounds absolutely horrendous. He pretty much says exactly what I thought when listening and what I stated earlier. It has no dynamics.

http://blog.wired.com/music/2008/09/does-metallicas.html

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"Analysis: Metallica's Death Magnetic Sounds Better in Guitar Hero
By Eliot Van Buskirk
September 16, 2008 | 11:17:32 AM

According to Wales-based MusicRadar guitar editor Chris Vinnecombe, Metallica's new Death Magnetic album has a serious sonic problem: it has been compressed (in the audio sense of the word, not the file size sense) just about as much as it's possible to compress audio.

Part of the "loudness war," this type of compression is designed to make music sound as loud as possible at the expense of dynamic range (the difference between loud and softer sounds). Television advertisers use similar technology to get the most bang for their buck volume-wise, which is why ads often sound so much louder than television programs.

However, according to Vinnicombe, the problem goes beyond compression. He says some parts are actually distorted from digital clipping, explaining, "the kick and snare drum seemed to be audibly clipping, along with some of the palm-muted guitar parts."

Vinnicombe's audio analysis (pictured to the above right), using the free, open-source audio editor Audacity (one of my favorite applications of all time), demonstrates graphically the severe nature of the audio compression used by Metallica's engineers for the CD version of the album by comparing it to a recording from the Guitar Hero videogame. This version of Death Magnetic, featuring extended solos from James Hetfield and Kirk Hammett, became available within the game on Friday as an $18 download.

According to his analysis, which looks solid, audiophiles would be better off recording the songs from the videogame than buying the album because the Guitar Hero version has far more dynamic range than the hyper-compressed CD version.

Vinnicombe spotted a comment by oneway23 on a Metallica forum that appears to contain a note he or she received from head engineer Ted Jensen of Sterling Sound, the company that mastered the album.

"I'm certainly sympathetic to your reaction," read the note, "I get to slam my head against that brick wall every day. In this case, the mixes were already brick-walled before they arrived at my place. Suffice to say I would never be pushed to overdrive things as far as they are here.

"Believe me I'm not proud to be associated with this one, and we can only hope that some good will come from this in some form of backlash against volume above all else."


If this is true [note* im not trying to pass this as complete fact*], and Jensen (whom the Death Magnetic liner notes identify as having mastered the album) received the mix in such a compressed form, it looks like the engineers who mixed the album before it was sent to the mastering facility -- identified by Vinnicombe as Greg Fidelman and Andrew Scheps -- are to blame.

So far, 2,730 fans have signed a petition asking that the album be re-mixed (as opposed to remixed) and/or remastered. Failing that, someone will eventually record themselves playing the song perfectly within the game and distribute it via bit torrent, and then Metallica's label will have another thing to get upset about."


9/16/2008 4:25:05 PM

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http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2008/09/18/fans-complain-after-death-magnetic-sounds-better-on-guitar-hero-than-cd/#more-7581
You can torrent the guitar hero files in FLAC format and check it out.

9/18/2008 9:31:42 PM

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Not much into this stuff, way too hard sounding for me, but I went to their website to sample the tracks, as I am an audiophile and wanted to check out this uproar over the quality. Can't make an assessment based on streaming content though - there's this crackling sound accompanying it...

9/18/2008 11:02:02 PM

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^They had some terrible quality mp3s on their website as a pre-release. They later updated it, but it really did hurt my ears to listen to it. The album wasn't quite as bad, but it's still entirely too loud.

I got a copy of the FLAC files from GH3. MUCH better sounding than the CD and the MP3s they made available on their website.

9/19/2008 1:35:34 AM

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"why can't they get back to doing stuff along the lines of Ride the Lightning or Master Of Puppets?"


They're getting old, dude

You can't play that kind of shit forever. There's a reason they haven't aged as well as bands like Iron Maiden. Their old shit took a ridiculous amount of stamina to play.

I used to play drums all the time and playing even one of those old songs used to nearly wind me. I can't imagine playing an entire concert of that shit, or even attempting it in my 40s.

9/19/2008 10:31:10 AM

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^5

So the guy has a lot of pride in putting his name on a product but he can't complain about the mix quality before the album comes out and everyone complains.

9/19/2008 12:24:13 PM

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Damn, I might have to go out and buy this one based on the replies in this thread. But maybe after the re-mix it

9/19/2008 3:34:15 PM

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A funny thing about the new album, there's no profanity. Literally none.

Funny how with St. Anger they were saying "look guys, we are hardcore again, listen to how many times we say the F word!"

Now, it's "Look guys, we are hardcore again, we are actually playing thrash metal!"

9/25/2008 12:42:41 AM

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http://mastering-media.blogspot.com/2008/09/metallica-death-magnetic-remixed-from.html
More mixes from individual GH tracks. They can downloaded via torrent...

9/25/2008 5:50:40 PM

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