Rivals has Hickson as an early entry mistake

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=796489

4/14/2008 11:11:27 AM

For Hickson's sake, I'm hoping he's using this as one of the two "free evaluations" underclassmen get before entering the draft. He'll get some feedback on where he stands and areas in his game he needs to work on. With all of the big men in this year's draft, he is a fringe first round pick at best.

4/14/2008 11:20:43 AM

does anyone remember when the pull out date is? for some reason i thought it was april 26th.

4/14/2008 11:23:25 AM

April 27 to declare, June 26 to withdraw.

4/14/2008 12:14:52 PM

I think they only get one 'free evaluation'

If they declare a second time, pretty sure they have to go

4/14/2008 12:37:09 PM

Beasley and Walker declared today...Walker is not hiring an agent. How many people have declared now?

Is this the NBA draft thread too?

4/15/2008 1:43:58 AM

hickson would be RETARDED to leave this year with all of the big men in this draft

4/15/2008 2:20:10 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3348226


cant wait!!! we're gonna rock it! (we being ACC b/c NC State is not in it

4/15/2008 4:30:32 PM

Duke at Purdue - Duke
UNC at MSU - UNC
Wisconsin at Virginia Tech - Wisconsin
Ohio State at Miami - tOSU
Clemson at Illinois - Illinois
Virginia at Minnesota - Minnesota
Iowa at Boston College - BC
Penn State at Georgia Tech - GT
Indiana at Wake Forest - WF
Florida State at Northwestern - FSU
Michigan at Maryland - UMD

ACC wins again 7-4. I will say that the matchups generally favor the Big Ten and if they are gonna win it, then it better be this year.

4/15/2008 5:24:27 PM

we can't lose!

4/15/2008 5:29:28 PM

Tyreke Evans to announce tomorrow. I'll bet my left nut he goes to Memphis.

4/15/2008 5:55:05 PM

Worldwide Wes says:



whoa whoa, Evans is MAH boy...he's going to Memphis.

4/15/2008 6:02:50 PM

I wonder if he'll get a bodyguard 24/7 as part of his scholarship.

4/15/2008 6:06:45 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3347949


the drake coach (keno davis) is going to providence. i can't say i really understand this one, even if it is a power conference school. seems like if he waited a season or two then a big fish might come calling

4/15/2008 6:38:05 PM

I guess he's trying to strike while the iron's hot. Maybe he figures he might not be able to get the publicity he got this year in the upcoming years after all those seniors graduated.

4/15/2008 7:06:28 PM

Skywalker: The David Thompson Story (Part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEg-NHDIfoQ

Skywalker: The David Thompson Story (Part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50k6_W6PLKI&feature=related

Enjoy.

4/23/2008 5:32:17 PM

think ill watch this on the wii

4/23/2008 6:00:25 PM

thanks, that was good.

4/23/2008 6:12:53 PM

Did any of you see the part toward the end of Part I where Norm Sloan explains why they were put on probation. GOD DAMN CAROLINA!!!!!!!!

4/23/2008 6:38:54 PM

http://beyondthearc.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/04/22/934307.aspx

What a fucking joke. State at #25? Maybe we should break down some statistics for this guy. Now I'm not saying that we are a good program right now, but we are surely have enough history and achievements to put us higher than 25th.

4/23/2008 7:23:09 PM

what have you done for me latley

4/23/2008 7:36:50 PM

NC State stats
- 2 National Championships (only 6 other programs, UCLA - 11, Kentucky - 7, Indiana - 5, UNC - 4, Kansas - 3, and Duke - 3, have more; tied with 6 other programs, Louisville, Michigan State, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State, San Francisco, Florida, and UConn)
- 3 Final Fours
- 10 ACCT Championships (3rd only to UNC - 17 and Duke - 16, and 6 ahead the next closest program, Wake Forest - 4)
- 7 ACC Regular Season Championships (3rd to UNC - 26 and Duke - 18, fuck we're behind by a lot)
- 7 Southern Conference Tournament Championships
- 6 Southern Conference Regular Season Championships
- One of only seven schools to win multiple national championships with more than one coach (UCLA, Kentucky, Indiana, UNC, Michigan State, and Kansas being the other 6)
- 1,512 wins (at the close of the 2007 season)
- 1 Consensus National Player of the Year
- 9 Sweet Sixteens
- 22 NCAA Tournament appearances (32 postseason appearances total)
- 20 Top 25 finishes
- 17 ACC Tournament Title games
- 19 All-Americans
- 71 All-ACC Selections (at the close of the 2007 season)
- 7 ACC Players of the Year
- Introduced cutting down the nets after winning a championship
- Began the tradition of introducing the starting lineup by spotlight
- The alley-oop as we know it today began here
- Started the idea of the early season holiday tournament with the Dixie Classic (would we have the NIT Tipoff, the Maui Invitational, etc. if the Dixie Classic hadn't been started?)
- iirc 3rd in the ACC for the number of players drafted


hey we maybe third in the Triangle, but we are definitely higher than #25 all-time. it kind of makes me wonder how we would be perceived had we not been put on probation in 1973 and won it all that year, giving us 3 national championships.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 8:22 PM. Reason : ]

4/23/2008 8:20:50 PM

Found parts 3, 4, and 5 of Skywalker: The David Thompson Story

Skywalker: The David Thompson Story (Part 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mXGJ-fQpVQ

Skywalker: The David Thompson Story (Part 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-3SeKy1BJg

Skywalker: The David Thompson Story (Part 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQnhQTnV0J4

4/24/2008 12:11:44 AM

Quote :

"Herb Sendek has some success in the mid-90s and early 2000s, but struggled to break 20 wins most years and rarely finished higher than third in the ACC. The Pack finished 15-16 last season, the first for new coach and ex-star Sidney Lowe. He has talent on the roster – the Pack still sends a respectable number of players to the NBA – but it won't be easy to return to its former heights."

So much of that paragraph is wrong it isn't funny.

4/24/2008 3:01:33 AM

Thabeet is looking like he is going to stay and AJ Price will be 100% by the season opener. With Kemba Walker and Nate Miles coming in, along with likely getting a commit by Ater Majok, I think most have UConn in the Top 5/10 preseason next year...

[Edited on April 24, 2008 at 11:32 AM. Reason : x]

4/24/2008 11:31:58 AM

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/news?slug=ap-memphis-draft&prov=ap&type=lgns

Memphis’ Anderson, Dozier join teammates in NBA draft

MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP)—The Memphis Tigers’ entire starting lineup last season has declared for the NBA draft now that juniors Antonio Anderson and Robert Dozier have become the last from the 2008 NCAA runner-up to announce.

The school announced Wednesday that neither Anderson and Dozier is expected to sign with an agent, leaving the possibility of returning for their senior season open.

They joined Derrick Rose and Chris Douglas-Roberts as early entries along with senior center Joey Dorsey.

With a deep pool of underclassmen entering the draft, Anderson and Dozier are unlikely to get drafted with their teammates. But Memphis coach John Calipari says Anderson and Dozier will be able to work out for NBA teams, participate in pre-draft camp and get feedback from scouts.

“Both Antonio and Robert approached me about putting their names in the NBA draft, and I support them in their decision,” Calipari said in a statement. “This is good for them because they can work out for teams and see where they stand and find out about their strengths and weaknesses.

Anderson has been a shutdown defender in three season with the Tigers, often asked to guard the opponent’s best player. But stuck in a logjam of talent at Memphis, he averaged just 8.6 points last season. Dozier averaged 9.2 points and 6.8 rebounds last year and also was forced to defer to the team’s more potent scorers.

The juniors, who have been merely complementary pieces for the Tigers, would have the chance to be go-to players should they return as seniors.

Behind their talented starters, the Tigers won an NCAA Division I record 38 games last season but lost to Kansas 75-68 in overtime of the national title game.

4/24/2008 7:04:35 PM

Tyler Smith is staying, woot

4/24/2008 7:46:02 PM

Quote :

"The Memphis Tigers’ entire starting lineup last season has declared for the NBA draft"

Time for Calipari to break out the ol' checkbook and reload.

4/24/2008 7:49:34 PM

Anderson and Dozier will come back

4/24/2008 8:03:14 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3368860

Sources: Stanford hires Johnny Dawkins to succeed Johnson

Duke associate head coach Johnny Dawkins has accepted the head coaching job at Stanford, multiple sources told ESPN.com.

Dawkins just completed his 11th season on the bench with his college coach, Mike Krzyzewski. Dawkins was in the mix for the Georgetown opening a few years ago when the Hoyas hired John Thompson III and is in charge of player development for the U.S. Olympic team coached by Krzyzewski.

Dawkins will succeed Trent Johnson, who abruptly left for LSU after leading the Cardinal to the Sweet 16. He inherts a team that will lose the Lopez twins, Brook and Robin, to the NBA draft, but will return its primary perimeter players in Mitch Johnson, Lawrence Hill and Anthony Goods, who will all be seniors next season.




This will be huge for Duke down the line. Dawkins, the heir apparent to Coach K, will gain head coaching experience at a school similar to Duke. If he succeeds there and Coach K retires in the next 10 years, I see no reason why Duke wouldn't want Dawkins. Perhaps K even told him to go for a job like this before he returns to Duke.

4/26/2008 12:59:38 PM

^i think you're dead on there.

dawkins will succeed coach k and this makes me think that it may be sooner than i expected. i could easily see coach k retiring in 5 years or so and dawkins coming back after he cuts his teeth.

4/26/2008 1:36:13 PM

it's all part of the plan.

4/26/2008 1:39:23 PM

http://www.newsobserver.com/sports/college/ncsu/mens_basketball/story/1048800-p2.html

Good Q&A with Sidney. Lowe was pretty straight forward.

4/26/2008 11:45:57 PM

My question is that what if Dawkins doesn't succeed at Stanford?

4/27/2008 12:58:08 AM

Sweet.. Thabeet coming back. All the main players are back plus 2 5*s and a 4* coming in... gonna be a good year.

I wish I had the same confidence in State..

4/27/2008 3:47:51 PM

Quote :

"My question is that what if Dawkins doesn't succeed at Stanford?"

then he won't get the Duke job

it's pretty simple

4/27/2008 4:32:48 PM

Quote :

"Collison, Love, Budinger and that dude from LSU declared for the draft today. UCLA won't be near a FF team without those two."

LA Times "scooped" that Collison had declared after their loss and confirmed he would be going Pro. He is staying-nice job of reporting.

4/28/2008 10:42:20 AM

^^but then who's gonna be the successor?

4/28/2008 2:38:44 PM

^Then the world comes to an end, duh

4/28/2008 4:08:29 PM

Quote :

"My question is that what if Dawkins doesn't succeed at Stanford?"

Chris Collins era here we come.

4/28/2008 4:11:06 PM

Sweet! Ater Majok gave an oral commitment to UConn today. Solidifies a good class...

They are going to be loaded next year. Preseason Top 5 easily..

^ what's Quinn Synder doing these days? Probably blow off some inner city hookers...

[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 4:32 PM. Reason : x]

4/28/2008 4:32:09 PM

^lol, Quinn "the prodigy" Snyder is currently coaching in the NBDL.

4/28/2008 4:47:24 PM

Today we remember one James Thomas Anthony Valvano. On this day 15 years ago Jim Valvano succumbed to metastatic bone cancer. The man taught us to dream and believe that the impossible can happen. Perhaps more importantly he taught us to never give up. If ever you are down listen to either the ESPY speech or the Reynolds speech. They are two of the most inspirational sports speeches ever. Right up there with Lou Gehrig's "Luckiest Man on the Face of the Earth" speech. Be thankful for what you have and don't dwell on what you don't. Jimmy V's legacy continues to live on today in every State fan and in the Jimmy V Foundation for Cancer Research. No matter how bad it gets we never give up on our team and will always be back the next season supporting them as always, b/c although the lows can be pretty low, the highs feel greater than anything in the world.














[Edited on April 28, 2008 at 6:54 PM. Reason : ]

4/28/2008 6:52:50 PM

wow a bit negative already.

http://www.mercurynews.com/sportsheadlines/ci_9092670

Kawakami: Union of Stanford, Dawkins seems doomed from start
By Tim Kawakami
Mercury News Staff Columnist
Article Launched: 04/29/2008 01:44:46 AM PDT

What's a nice guy like Johnny Dawkins doing in a weird job like this?

And why's an elite program like Stanford handing a six-year deal to an untested coach like Dawkins?

Frankly, it's tough to understand why either Dawkins or Stanford would want any part of a long-lasting relationship with each other, so maybe that makes it a perfect, irrational marriage of cash and face-saving convenience.

Sorry, but all of that has to be brought up after Athletic Director Bob Bowlsby's odd news conference Monday to introduce Dawkins as Trent Johnson's replacement.

Unfortunately for Stanford stalwarts, there were no soothing answers forthcoming from Dawkins, who is waiting to succeed Mike Krzyzewski at Duke but needs to show he can actually coach before ascending to the Durham throne.

So Stanford is a proving ground, with a six-year contract as a bonus.

Nor were there high-grade answers from Bowlsby, who struck out so wildly after pushing Johnson out the door that anybody with a pulse, an NBA background and Coach K's blessing apparently was worth whatever Bowlsby had to pay.

Six years? Did you really have to give somebody who has never coached a game in his life a six-year deal?

"We need to invest in him, and he's moving a family all the way across the country, and he was in a very secure situation," Bowlsby said. "He and his representatives asked for six years, and so I did what they wanted."

Yes, of course he did, because Bowlsby had nowhere else to turn after reaching out to Paul Hewitt, Mark Few, Larry Brown, Bruce Weber, Mark Fox, Bob McKillop and possibly thousands of others.

Yes, of course, Dawkins took it, because if it works out he will take over the Duke job whenever Coach K quits. And if things go awry quickly at Stanford, he will have all that Stanford money in his pocket and there's always a seat available for him next to Coach K.

"I was very happy where I was," Dawkins said. "I was associate head coach at a major program. . . . My life was fine. So this has been, for me, an amazing opportunity, because (Stanford is) so similar."

Let's be real about this: Dawkins seems like a dignified, thoughtful man, but if he turns out to be a great coach for Stanford, it will only be by luck or by Bowlsby calling in some favors for an admissions break or two.

Dawkins has no West Coast connections. He has no Stanford connections. He is used to recruits lining up for Coach K. He will be going up against Mike Montgomery, Ben Howland, Lute Olson and Tim Floyd, among others, and they do have some coaching experience.

Dawkins, not surprisingly, sounds like he wants to transfer Coach K's philosophies from Cameron Indoor Stadium to Maples Pavilion, and I don't think it works that way.

Of course, Bowlsby is praying it works that way. He has no other choice. He messed up with Johnson and missed on everybody else, now he's stuck. So how did that hiring process go for you, Bob?

"What do you think?" Bowlsby said after the news conference. Probably busy, I offered. Probably tiring.

"Yeah, it's been busy," Bowlsby said.

Busy for him. Surreal for Stanford supporters who knew that Johnson wanted to stay, that Montgomery was ready to replace him and that Bowlsby ended up with neither.

What about that criticism you have received from me and a few others about the Johnson departure?

"I think it's unfair and I think it's inaccurate," Bowlsby said.

Oh? Why?

"Because the people writing about it don't have all the information."

I asked Bowlsby: Do you think you have made a coaching upgrade from Johnson to Dawkins?

"Who's to say? It's a new era," Bowlsby said, brightening up. "It's a new guy. It's some new thinking. It's fresh ideas. Only time will tell how he rates among the coaches that have coached at Stanford over the many years."

OK, about the Stanford tradition . . . What happened with Montgomery? He was on your staff, then left for Cal a week before Johnson left for Louisiana State.

"I don't think Mike Montgomery would take the job if it was offered," Bowlsby said. "I don't think you return to places you've left."

But would you have offered it to him?

"He's a great coach, anybody would want him to come back," Bowlsby said. "You have to ask him if he would've come back. But there wasn't any thought about him coming back."

I must admit, Montgomery was perfect for Stanford. Johnson was perfect for Stanford, too, and vice versa. But that's done now.

And now the new hire: After what I just saw, I don't think either Dawkins or Stanford is worthy of the other.

4/29/2008 12:11:41 PM

seems like a familiar story

4/29/2008 12:18:28 PM

eerily similar

4/29/2008 1:20:52 PM

Quote :

"Dawkins has no West Coast connections. He has no Stanford connections. He is used to recruits lining up for Coach K. He will be going up against Mike Montgomery, Ben Howland, Lute Olson and Tim Floyd, among others, and they do have some coaching experience."

He failed to mention that Stanford's Academic requirements are much more difficult than USC, ASU, UA, WSU, etc. Even if Trent Johnson stayed, Stanford had no shot at .500 in the PAC 10 in 08-09. He's going to have a tough time there. He better hope K calls it quits in the next two years.

4/29/2008 1:40:50 PM

Quote :

"And why's an elite program like Stanford..."

I found that part funny. Stanford while a good program recently is nowhere near elite. They are nowhere near UCLA and Arizona.

4/29/2008 2:17:47 PM

He's be crazy to think that Stanford basketball would be considered elite. However, Stanford athletics as a whole is another story. That job should be considered elite and prestigious when compared to the success of their other teams successes.

4/29/2008 2:28:09 PM

OK, so I just went on http://www.nbadraft.net ..... they have a mock draft listed and Hickson been an early 2nd rounder in 2008 since he declared. Now he is listed in 2009.... WTF?

It was updated yesterday. I know he hasn't hired an agent-I guess someone's assumming he'll be back???

[Edited on April 29, 2008 at 4:27 PM. Reason : s]

4/29/2008 4:25:44 PM