The Judge Suspended 3405 Posts user info edit post |
3 small meals a day, ladies 4/11/2008 12:53:01 PM |
AlexRebbel All American 15028 Posts user info edit post |
...and 25 if you're obese 4/11/2008 12:53:47 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but will i leave him because he weighs more than when we met?" |
Thats your personal preference then.
I prefer girls who are fit and physically active. So they usually don't have the propensity to get fat to begin with. And If I'm going to put a lot of effort into staying in shape myself, then I think the girl should too. Her getting lazy and fat would be the same to me as getting lazy and quitting her job, or something else along those lines. Weight and physical health are of the same importance as personality and intelligence to me.
I've got fat friends...and I respect their preference to not put in the effort to lose weight. But I wouldn't date or hook up with them either.4/11/2008 12:53:47 PM |
sylvershadow All American 7049 Posts user info edit post |
She was probably up all night staring at the ceiling b/c you were a douche to her somehow (probably cause you're still sleeping w/ your ex) and she was feeling miserable, so she got up and did something that made her feel better (without resorting to violence).
so stfu and stop being such a pussy and treat her right and she'll treat you right, which means she'll want to look good for you.
Oh yeah, and cook dinner once in a while. I only gained weight when I was with someone b/c I was unwilling to cook for him every night, so when it was his turn to provide food, we usually ended up going out to eat b/c he was too lazy to cook. 4/11/2008 12:53:57 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
post from page 2
Quote : | "hey, I'm not talking about my wife, I don't have one. I'm talking about the process in which I pick out my wife.
I'm not going to marry a woman who tried to trick me into thinking she exercised and eats healthy. if you let yourself go within the first couple months of us dating, then fuck you!
" |
4/11/2008 12:54:41 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "um no, in a relationship her body is mine too
Also KittyB, its different, women need to be pretty, men don't have to be" |
Elemental fail.
Less sexism, please.4/11/2008 12:56:13 PM |
The Judge Suspended 3405 Posts user info edit post |
sylvershadow i'm not sleeping with my ex anymore so no need to bring up old shit in here
second she does cook dinner often, I was just nice enough to take her out last night, where she had tiramisu after dinner then the ice cream sandwich, hence me wondering why women would do this to themselves when their body is so central to who they are
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 12:57 PM. Reason : less sexism? Read the article I linked on the previous page] 4/11/2008 12:57:30 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "less sexism? Read the article I linked on the previous page" |
Yes, I'm aware that sexism is common.4/11/2008 1:00:57 PM |
Kitty B All American 19088 Posts user info edit post |
women who think their body is central to who they are are just coming up with excuses not to have personality or personal thought.
take care of yourself. and avoid douche bags who measure your self-worth with exclusively physical criteria. 4/11/2008 1:01:06 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
to kitty B and Joie. 4/11/2008 1:01:59 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Right, because the way a girl takes care of herself has nothing to do with her brain. 4/11/2008 1:02:18 PM |
katydid88 Veteran 422 Posts user info edit post |
ok would you rather your s/o let you know that you have gained a lil weight...or some stranger in public giving you the eww face..or someone else you don't know and who has no interest what so ever in your well-being... 4/11/2008 1:02:36 PM |
The Judge Suspended 3405 Posts user info edit post |
^
Those you care tell you the truth 4/11/2008 1:04:03 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "take care of yourself. and avoid douche bags who measure your self-worth with exclusively physical criteria." |
You gotta be attracted to somebody first before you can get to the "are they cool" part. And since most guys aren't attracted to fatties...then I guess you ladies need to step away from the cold stone and step onto a treadmill.4/11/2008 1:06:57 PM |
Kitty B All American 19088 Posts user info edit post |
a woman who keeps herself in a physically attractive state may be doing so because she is proud of how she looks and cares about her health. or she may be doing so because she feels compelled to in order to be loved and accepted.
i think it's more practical to maintain a healthy body type, eat healthy (or at least consciously) and maintain proper hygiene than to spend 2 hours a day at the gym so you can come home and eat foods that don't satisfy you and to load on the make-up all the time so you look a little better.
and i should mention that the term fatties really should be applied to grossly obese people who have more rolls than a bakery, as compared to someone who may have love handles and a little pooch belly.
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 1:09 PM. Reason : ] 4/11/2008 1:07:14 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "than to spend 2 hours a day at the gym so you can come home and eat foods that don't satisfy you and to load on the make-up all the time so you look a little better." |
First...there aren't too many girls who spend 2 hours in the gym. Second, I think you're stereotyping people who spend a lot of time staying fit. The majority of people that spend a lot of time doing physical activities do it because: (1)they enjoy doing it, (2) they enjoy the feeling after completing these physical activities (I hate running, but I love the feeling right after I'm done running, (3) they how they look when they are in shape, (4) they are doing it to reach certain goals (to play sports or compete in races).
There aren't too many obsessed people who run an extra mile so they don't have to use non-fat dressing or eat a salad because they didn't do that one aerobics class.
Besides...certain salads can taste just as good as "unhealthy" foods.
And fatties can be whatever I feel like fatties are (which to me, are girls 20-25lbs overweight and up).4/11/2008 1:21:08 PM |
The Judge Suspended 3405 Posts user info edit post |
^ 4/11/2008 1:25:33 PM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
take everything kitty b said.
and just include me. 4/11/2008 1:27:34 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "little pooch belly." |
These make me want to throw-up by the way.4/11/2008 1:30:06 PM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
^are you serious. i have one of those like a mother fucker 4/11/2008 1:31:59 PM |
The Judge Suspended 3405 Posts user info edit post |
take everything katydid88 said.
and just include me. 4/11/2008 1:33:15 PM |
Kitty B All American 19088 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you're stereotyping people" |
so are you. just because they don't have the same priority as you to maintain a certain physique or don't get as much enjoyment out of physical activities, you call them fat and lazy.
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 1:39 PM. Reason : ps- i hate my pooch. ]4/11/2008 1:38:26 PM |
punchmonk Double Entendre 22300 Posts user info edit post |
What will you men do if you and your girl have a baby one day? I have been pretty lucky that my body is back at the same size and weight before pregnancy but I have stretch marks now and the typical flab piece from where the skin stretched too much. A lot of times there is no going back to the way you used to look- no matter how much exercising and eating healthy you do.
I am so grateful that my guy still loves my body. 4/11/2008 1:39:49 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, i'm also not a fan of the muffin top.
I agree with a lot of the guys in this thread. If you want to claim that a guy being conscious of how you look as superficial, then so be it, but it is no different than a woman caring about how much her husband makes and what job he has since money, like looks, isn't everything and can also come and go. To her status and potential wealth is what helps determine his worth, and to a man her looks, in part, help determine a portion of her worth. You can find plenty of women out there who have good personalities but the trouble is finding one who actually looks cute and/or hot and also has a good personality. If guys didn't take looks into consideration at first, they could just marry anyone and fatties would get a lot more dates. But thats just not the way it works, and theres nothing sexist or inappropriately superficial about it. Even if you were to ask women if they'd be willing to date someone with the exact characteristics of their partner but only with better looks, would they...most are going to say yes. Thats the point a lot of the guys are making here. We can find girls who are usually generally as good as the next one, so your looks are what you have that separates you.
Simply put, girls are attracted to status, and men to looks. We hold these truths to be self evident. 4/11/2008 1:42:27 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Quote : | "hey, I'm not talking about my wife, I don't have one. I'm talking about the process in which I pick out my wife.
I'm not going to marry a woman who tried to trick me into thinking she exercised and eats healthy. if you let yourself go within the first couple months of us dating, then fuck you! " |
If you look at what I typed, it isn't about physical apprearance with me. It's about their motivations, actions, and personality.
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 1:42 PM. Reason : ]4/11/2008 1:42:27 PM |
qntmfred retired 40699 Posts user info edit post |
^^^message_topic.aspx?topic=522099?
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 1:42 PM. Reason : .] 4/11/2008 1:42:41 PM |
skankinande All American 28213 Posts user info edit post |
I dont care if there is a little pooch as long as I gets to see you naked its fine by me, dont be ashamed. 4/11/2008 1:44:48 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Simply put, girls are attracted to status, and men to looks. We hold these truths to be self evident." |
I'm not attracted to my English major boyfriend because I think he'll make a lot of money. Your statement is not true at all.
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 1:49 PM. Reason : V I agree with basically everything Kitty B said.]4/11/2008 1:47:41 PM |
Kitty B All American 19088 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Simply put, girls are attracted to status, and men to looks. We hold these truths to be self evident." |
not all women base their male selections on "status"
reserve that for the stereotypical meredith girls.4/11/2008 1:48:32 PM |
ShawnaC123 2019 Egg Champ 46681 Posts user info edit post |
I'd rather eat ice cream sandwiches and have some pudge than date one of you douchebags, knowing that if we got married and in 30 years I got breast cancer and had a mastectomy I'd probably end up alone. 4/11/2008 1:49:24 PM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
oh woooooooow.
this developed into that.
i can guarantee you guys i am not interested in status or money at all. what fun is that.
i'd rather marry a freelance artist who can keep up with my shenanigans and laugh and just have afucking good time rather than someone who makes bank and tells me i dont have to work.
fuck that. thats not love
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ^, ^^, ^^^...i knew i <3ed you guys ] 4/11/2008 1:50:27 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
^ ^^& ^^^^
because girls who hang out on tww are a fine representation of the typical girls out there in the US.
also, status isn't all about money, but is often involved and does usually come into play at some point.
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 1:51 PM. Reason : ^'s] 4/11/2008 1:50:41 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so are you. just because they don't have the same priority as you to maintain a certain physique or don't get as much enjoyment out of physical activities, you call them fat and lazy." |
Yeah...but my stereotyping has more backup...because I don't see too many overweight people outside running and walking or in the gym. Therefore I assume they are being lazy by staying inside and not doing anything about it. But I love seeing bigger people out running and doing their thing in the gym. It motivates the shit out of me and makes me excited for them.
And as far as the whole pregnant thing...yeah, there is definitely some leniency in that. But you can get back to an acceptable weight in a reasonable amount of time. Don't say its not possible, because I've seen plenty of women do it. People's genes factor a lot into it, but with the right amount of work, anybody should be able to get back to pre-pregnancy weight.
And yeah, the pooch is bad. I can't stand to see "thin" everywhere else...then have a kangaroo pouch on the belly. It just doesn't look right. I'd rather see "thick" all-around.4/11/2008 1:50:57 PM |
GoldenViper All American 16056 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Simply put, girls are attracted to status, and men to looks. We hold these truths to be self evident." |
I blame the patriarchy.4/11/2008 1:51:03 PM |
punchmonk Double Entendre 22300 Posts user info edit post |
I base mine on intelligence, inside jokes, humor, and friendship. But I do have to say I am very attracted to my so. 4/11/2008 1:51:42 PM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And yeah, the pooch is bad. I can't stand to see "thin" everywhere else...then have a kangaroo pouch on the belly. It just doesn't look right. I'd rather see "thick" all-around." |
hahahaha i have the body shape where my legs look like fucking toothpics. my arms twigs. but my bellly......jeeeeeesussssss.
i jokingly refer to it as the "ethiopian belly"4/11/2008 1:52:29 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "also, status isn't all about money, but is often involved and does usually come into play at some point." |
please give me an example wherein status is not tied to money
we're not all golddiggers, so go fuck yourself4/11/2008 1:52:41 PM |
The Judge Suspended 3405 Posts user info edit post |
punchmonk
if I had a wife give me a child, I would say she would be pretty much exempt from having to maintain perfection. The creation of a child is such an amazing act of love, it transcends the rules I usually adhere to.
That said, it is for those very reasons and others that I not only do not want to get married, I do not want to have a child. 4/11/2008 1:53:09 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd rather eat ice cream sandwiches and have some pudge than date one of you douchebags" |
I don't think you'll ever have to worry about that...
And why does it make me a douchebag because I'm not attracted to overweight girls?? I think it makes me a normal male.4/11/2008 1:53:21 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Why isn't anybody responding to my claim? That putting on weight all of a sudden AFTER you're together with someone is deceptive? If you start eating bad, and stop working out AFTER you've been together for a while is pretty much saying you were "just kidding" in the beginning?
It's wrong, and it ends up wasting time if you value not only healthy habits and diet, but if you also value honesty and integrity
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 1:54 PM. Reason : b] 4/11/2008 1:54:01 PM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
JEEEEEEEZ i'm adding this to my topics.
it makes me laugh and oh so fucking greatful im dating cody. in every way, shape, and form. i love him. 4/11/2008 1:54:02 PM |
Kitty B All American 19088 Posts user info edit post |
i'm with joie on this one.
i <3 my husband. 4/11/2008 1:55:06 PM |
punchmonk Double Entendre 22300 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That said, it is for those very reasons and others that I not only do not want to get married, I do not want to have a child." |
Honesty is good....strap on a jimmy hat.4/11/2008 1:55:21 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "JEEEEEEEZ i'm adding this to my topics.
it makes me laugh and oh so fucking greatful im dating cody. in every way, shape, and form. i love him." |
Seriously...quit acting like you're fat or overweight. Save this topic for the one day that you might be fat....but it doesn't apply to you currently.
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 1:55 PM. Reason : .]4/11/2008 1:55:31 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "knowing that if we got married and in 30 years I got breast cancer and had a mastectomy I'd probably end up alone." |
Thats entirely different, that would be something completely out of your control. No need to be obtuse to try and make people feel bad, or yourself feel better.
Quote : | "love seeing bigger people out running " |
agreed
Quote : | "you can get back to an acceptable weight in a reasonable amount of time" |
my mother only gained 15 - 20lbs when she was pregnant with me. She took initiative and worked out while she was preggers for over the first two trimesters. I was born around 8lbs. A lot of what she gained was water and what not. More women should take this initiative. My mom still weighs what she weighed in college. Perhaps from having that experience i just have standards and expectations. However, nothing you can say will really make me feel bad for having standards and expectations for people, nor should any guy here be expected to feel that way for doing so.4/11/2008 1:55:37 PM |
ShawnaC123 2019 Egg Champ 46681 Posts user info edit post |
I can't imagine why a girl would put on weight after getting a guy.
To me, maintaining looks is about personal satisfaction, not attractiveness to the opposite sex.
If I were to get married and gain 50 pounds, I'd be disgusted with myself every time I looked in the mirror, regardless of what my husband thought. 4/11/2008 1:56:12 PM |
The Judge Suspended 3405 Posts user info edit post |
I am far too self involved and selfish to want to raise a child.
That doesnt say I don't make an awesome Uncle and I don't love kids 4/11/2008 1:57:48 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "my mother only gained 15 - 20lbs when she was pregnant with me. She took initiative and worked out while she was preggers for over the first two trimesters. I was born around 8lbs. A lot of what she gained was water and what not. More women should take this initiative. My mom still weighs what she weighed in college. Perhaps from having that experience i just have standards and expectations. However, nothing you can say will really make me feel bad for having standards and expectations for people, nor should any guy here be expected to feel that way for doing so." |
Word...I think my family has produced ridiculously high standards for me.
My mom is about to turn 54 and is in better shape than most 25-year old women that I know. My dad is almost 60 and has less body fat than me. And my sister is actually pretty thick, but works out about five times a week and is a kick-ass rugby player.
I don't have a problem with people who are happy with their weight and how their body looks. But the majority of people aren't, and I don't have the sympathy for them if they won't put in the effort to do anything about it.4/11/2008 1:58:42 PM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
fuck it.
you'll never win with people who think girls are supposed to be 5'11" and 110
[Edited on April 11, 2008 at 2:06 PM. Reason : ALL WE NEED IS LOVE. let's be friends now plz??] 4/11/2008 1:59:52 PM |
IRSeriousCat All American 6092 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so go fuck yourself" |
wow stillfuchsia i'd think a person with your literary skills would be able to be more elegant with wording and could result to more intelligible retorts. regardless of which, you could be the really cool guy in school or you could be the leader of some organization that someone participates in or for a simple example, how female students will some times fall for their male professors. you didn't even try for this one, did you?
terpball i feel you, man, seriously. because when you spend a little amount of time with these girls who do that they eat salads and what not when you go on your little dates or general outings and speak as if they're so health conscious but then later when you hang out with them more you notice that their diet is trash and later on its going to catch up with them as their figure fizzles away. some girls will complain about how they need to go to the gym or lose some weight and then only to order a huge plate of cheese fries at a bar and then later go out and get cook out after the bar. The result, them trying to maintain their weight by cutting out meals. This, while effective short term, is not a long-term solution. I don't want a girl who doesn't eat at all, or only eats salads, but i do like women who eat in a health conscious fashion with appropriate portions. i much rather have them eat 3 meals a day rather than skip breakfast, have a bag of king size m&m's for lunch, skip dinner and then eat the nastiest shit they can find only to snack on junk food later that evening. healthy isn't an act, its a lifestyle. either you're living it or you're not. people shouldn't act as if they are just because they are weight conscious. its two different things.4/11/2008 2:05:40 PM |