"LivingPrrof78"..you might want to check your profile bitch before you make a generalized statement, b/c for one, anyone who proclaims themselves to be a TKE-Groupie, sounds like a

dried up cunt who probably couldnt get laid during her undergrad years even if you tried.

So continue running your mouth bitch ass, b/c honestly little lady-you dont want any!

5/13/2008 6:57:41 PM

that's the thing about arguing with 5-year-olds

they always win

especially if they already know dirty words

5/13/2008 7:03:43 PM

Quote :

"too bad Obama doesnt have a chance without Hill being on the ticket...even though it appears mini Hill (Michelle) can't stand Hill, he is doomed if her supporters (or even a fraction) dont vote or vote for McCain....match made in hell......"

Well this is why after seeing shit hit the fan down the stretch of the primaries for Obama, superdelegates will realize who is the more electable candidate in a general election.

Its time to realize that Obama won't be going up against Hillary in the general election and if Hillary is nominated, she won't be going up against Obama so the fact that obama is slightly winning is pretty moot considering Hillary has all the swing states.

5/13/2008 10:33:58 PM

Quote :

"As a former Marketing major, I'm going to sum it up for you: 1) Old. 2) Old. 3) Old. 4) Old. 5) Old. Old ideas. Old appearance. Old guard. McCain is old. As the Presidential advertising campaign develops into one of contrasting brands by the political duopoly, the sheer contrast between the two men on this simple metric shatters McCain's chances. Between voter perceptions of the economy, foreign policy, and their interplay; anything voters perceive as old won't inspire. I think the historic influx of enthusiastic young voters (disenchanted Ron Paul Republicans, and OMFBama fans alike) turns a tight election away from McCain based on the weight of this contrast. The general election 2008, IMHO, will resemble a hybrid of 1992 and 1996. The dramatic influx of campaign staff and voters from the younger bracket will resemble 1992 with similar results for the Democratic Party. The role of Ross Perot will be played by the Silent Conservatives who prefer neither Obama nor present-day McCain, but Ron Paul, or more likely, John McCain v2000. In our 2008 election, I expect this voting bloc will merge with the apathetic majority who form a larger potential voting bloc than either political party: eligible, non-participants. The 1996 reprisal stems from a Democratic branding effort like the Clinton campaign's portrayal of Bob Dole as "old and moldy" in 1996. As time goes on, and this contrast registers and compounds, John McCain simply won't be able to out-inspire his younger rival. Bill Clinton taught Bob Dole this in 1996. Petty disputes over the minutiae of legislative proposals that have exactly zero chance of being passed (and nobody reads) may provide high brow infotainment, but don't strongly influence the broader vote. Yes, this is my 2008 election call. Barack Obama wins in a tight one. To look for: After brokering a deal for Hillary Clinton's campaign and fundraising machine in exchange for her role as Secretary of State in his administration, not Vice President, Barack chooses a white man, perhaps even John Edwards, to take the Vice President slot at the Democratic Convention. "

i didnt write this

5/13/2008 10:37:29 PM

wolfood98, you love obama so much. your love is so deep it makes me tingle inside

5/13/2008 10:38:09 PM

oh shit...i forgot about this thread and i even made the top of the page....


sarcasm is completely lost on the internet and that's a shame

5/13/2008 10:52:43 PM

Quote :

"'m just confused as to why people think anyone with less than 5 years of national political experience and 11 years total political experience is experienced enough to be the leader of the free world..."

Yeah, let alone get re-elected. What kind of country would do that. I mean, it's not like our last 2 presidents have been former governors with no national political experience and limited total political experience.

5/13/2008 11:28:45 PM

sarcasm is completely lost on the internet and that's a shame

5/14/2008 12:43:09 AM

10/10.

5/14/2008 12:58:50 AM

there is pretty much only one legitimate reason Obama beat Hillary and the OP could have posted it without looking like a fanatical douche bag....

1) Hillary is a worthless piece of shit


i would never even have posted in this thread if he had said that

5/14/2008 1:02:23 AM

i dont really hate clinton all that much

5/14/2008 1:15:31 AM

well i think she sucks

i don't think Obama sucks (except at bowling...haha)....I just think McCain is going to win in the end....

5/14/2008 6:20:31 AM

^^^ She speaks truth.

[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 7:28 AM. Reason : .]

5/14/2008 7:28:11 AM

5/14/2008 8:37:31 AM

Quote :

"ell this is why after seeing shit hit the fan down the stretch of the primaries for Obama, superdelegates will realize who is the more electable candidate in a general election. Its time to realize that Obama won't be going up against Hillary in the general election and if Hillary is nominated, she won't be going up against Obama so the fact that obama is slightly winning is pretty moot considering Hillary has all the swing states."

pretty much everything about this post is wrong... when has shit hit the fan for Obama?

5/14/2008 8:59:41 AM

Just pondering....what would be the difference between having an ex-president as First Gentleman or a black woman as First Lady ?

5/14/2008 9:18:43 AM

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

Polls show both Obama and Clinton knocking off McCain in the generals. I don't see how anyone could expect otherwise with the turnout the Dems have seen in the primaries.

5/14/2008 10:12:43 AM

unless republicans have been changing their affiliation in order to vote in the dem primaries....

5/14/2008 10:13:33 AM

that would never happen!

5/14/2008 10:14:23 AM

only idiot loser republicans would do such a thing

5/14/2008 10:17:07 AM

Quote :

"Ohhh man you people are dumb! I am not a political person, nor very much religious, but I do believe there is a God and I believe in the Bible. I would go into a spill on my opinion but I'll keep it short: Obama is the Anit-Christ. "

wow, I can't believe this girl actually called someone else dumb in the same post as some of the most retarded rambling I've ever seen. If she's serious... what a dumb cunt!

5/14/2008 10:21:42 AM

^dude read the aim convo i put like a few posts under that...thats who said it

5/14/2008 10:22:17 AM

Wow, is that toilet picture girl?

5/14/2008 10:24:06 AM

11. He has a penis.

5/14/2008 10:24:34 AM

yep

5/14/2008 10:24:35 AM

Someone should zap toilet girl's eggs so she can't reproduce. Girl is a bonafide retard

5/14/2008 10:30:42 AM

i dont get why livinproof drunknloaded hates democrats republicans so much

[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 10:32 AM. Reason : the only democrats i've called names and talked shit about are hillary and the OP]

5/14/2008 10:31:47 AM

its hard for me to not hate republicans after the last 8 years

5/14/2008 10:34:13 AM

because all republicans are just like george bush?

most of my family are democrats and i don't hate them because of [fill in any shitty democrat you feel like here]



and please tell me how it's personally affected your life other than gas prices....

my life doesn't seem any different to me now than it was under Clinton, or George HW Bush, or Ronald Reagan...

i wasn't old enough to remember Jimmy Carter being president but i've heard that really did suck for everybody...


[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 10:38 AM. Reason : forgot to edit my first reason for edit]

5/14/2008 10:35:33 AM

you seemed shocked that people prefer the democrat over the republican

[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 10:38 AM. Reason : i am shocked that people prefer the republican over the democrat]

5/14/2008 10:38:00 AM

i have never, ever said that.....

i'm not at all surprised that democrats prefer the democrat and republicans prefer the republican...

that's why we have political parties....



when you show me a shit load of republicans that vote for the democrat then you'll have a valid argument...

but in NC a shit load of democrats have voted for the republican since the 60s

[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 10:40 AM. Reason : asdf]

5/14/2008 10:39:24 AM

not talking about political parties...i'm talking about a majority of america

5/14/2008 10:40:13 AM

how can you talk about the majority of america in the primaries?


unless you are in an open state you HAVE to vote in your registered political party primary....and there are more registered democrats than republicans...so that would suggest that the majority of the country prefers the democrat...but when the majority HAVE to vote for a democrat then that's exactly what happens....


you still haven't made a point

in 2004 ~47% of all registered voters were democrats and ~33% were republicans and GWB still got re-elected....

[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 10:53 AM. Reason : asdf]

5/14/2008 10:43:58 AM

i guess i just dont understand john mccains appeal

5/14/2008 10:46:42 AM

Quote :

"i guess i just dont understand john mccains appeal"

5/14/2008 10:53:17 AM

^^well that is a valid statement

[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 10:53 AM. Reason : asdf]

5/14/2008 10:53:30 AM

honestly i dont even know why i care so much


hopefully by the end of the first term of whoever wins i'll be in a position to move out of the country

5/14/2008 10:55:23 AM

are you even going to vote?

[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM. Reason : ^now that's really the american way]

5/14/2008 10:55:59 AM

probably not

[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 10:57 AM. Reason : lol its nc...we gonna go repub fo sho...dont care what the obama supporters think]

5/14/2008 10:56:31 AM

yeah...then i don't know why you give a shit either

5/14/2008 10:56:54 AM

idk i mean i like politics...its just the whole registering, then u gotta go out to the polling place, etc etc etc

5/14/2008 10:57:48 AM

here's how you register....


when you renew your driver's license they say "would you like to register to vote?...you say "yes"...they say "what party?"...you say "democrat"....they say "cool...you're registered"


or mail one in...or go to the public library...or a high school....this isn't hard...


and you can mail in your vote too...

[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 11:02 AM. Reason : you have no excuse if you're going to bitch about it]

5/14/2008 10:59:48 AM

If the GOP trick as many Americans into voting for McCain as they did for Bush, I'll be impressed.

5/14/2008 11:23:14 AM

i just hope theres not as many racist white people as i think there is that dont fuck this up

[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM. Reason : .]

5/14/2008 11:25:32 AM

its not that hes black, its that he is muslim

i know I FUCKING KNOW hes not extremist, but it freaks me out i cant lie

5/14/2008 11:47:28 AM

yeah...i've heard that sentiment from several dems i know...


and i still think they are retarded for voting for hillary...don't get me wrong....if she had won there would be no contest that mccain would beat her....but there is no way i could ever bring myself to vote for her....

5/14/2008 11:51:17 AM

I think Wolfood98 is in there somewhere.


Anyway, this statement made me laugh:

Quote :

"Campaigns are ultimately about the qualities of candidates"

No sir, campaigns are about how a particular politician is marketed by his campaign. The Obama campaign has done a MASTERFUL job of marketing their product and by all appearances will continue to do the same in the general election. Hell, he is already campaigning in states where the primaries have already been held.

Neither HRC nor John McCain has matched their level of precision, efficiency, enthusiasm, or strategic brilliance. It doesn't help that their product is shiny and new in a country where novelty and youth are practically worshiped.

Contested campaigns usually rest on turnout. Obama will simply turn out more voters in November and will defeat John McCain on sheer energy.

There are only 2 real ways that I see the Democrats screwing this one up:
1) Superdelegates nominate HRC instead of Obama.
2) Obama picks a disastrous VP (unlikely) while McCain picks a superb one.

A terrorist attack might also work in the GOPs favor however. John McCain is likely to look resolute in the face of an attack while Obama will take a more nuanced position (or appear obviously uncomfortable attempting to take a strong position), thereby appearing weak in the face of danger.

Barring any of these unlikely events, we will have our first black president in January. Personally I think many of Obama's domestic policies are disastrous, but I give him credit for being more introspective than any candidate in recent memory and, quite frankly, speaking to voters as intelligent individuals, instead of just feeding them mildly condescending sound-bites.

5/14/2008 12:12:07 PM

Obama's VP list:



[Edited on May 14, 2008 at 3:35 PM. Reason : ]

5/14/2008 3:35:23 PM

Quote :

"when has shit hit the fan for Obama?"

FORTY

POINT

LOSS

5/14/2008 10:33:04 PM

set em up

5/14/2008 10:33:20 PM