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"i'm not, i'm just asking how you would like it if your fingers and toes were cut off at the first joint. its actually worse for a cat, because of how they walk, than a similar operation would be for a person. and its not like they cant feel pain just because they arent human."

but that IS a stupid comparison...i'm pretty sure walking would be next to impossible for a good long while if you had the first joint of your toes cut off, and using hands as hands would be next to impossible due to the difference in the first and second joints...doing this would render the person nearly incapable of living a "normal" life

declawing a cat (most people only do the front paws, not the back) is not the same...they are able to walk immediately and they're able to walk just fine...yes, i'm sure it hurts...but so did getting my wisdom teeth out, and so i dealt with the pain for a happier life...it's not like the teeth are doing anything of importance, just like their front claws are useless (in an indoor environment)

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"I am sure that dogs love living cramped in your lame assed apartment all day holding it's shit until you come home."

if you had a point here, it might be worth posting...but you don't...a lot of people (not all, obviously) have yards and houses...they also have roommates that take care of the pets in their absence, and/or come home in the middle of the day to walk the pet...grouping everyone into the same category just so you can rant means that you've nothing of any value to contribute

and for the purpose of this thread, i've already mentioned MY dog(s) have a yard (just under 1 acre), and are not cooped up in a crate, and go to the dog park and/or lake nearly every day

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5/13/2008 12:40:29 PM

spca and ushs are stupid

peta is zombie level retarded

5/13/2008 12:58:27 PM

We adopted our dog from Triangle Beagle Rescue...aside from a possibly lost check we mailed them, it was a great experience

There is also the basset hound rescue...of course these two are for folks that want/can handle a hound dog

5/13/2008 1:01:36 PM

my puppy (well, 18 months old) looks damn near exactly like a german shorthaired pointer, and she sure does act like one (though she was found on the durham freeway)...she's been a bit of a trial, but she's shaped up very well in the last 6 months or so

5/13/2008 1:03:24 PM

http://www.petfinder.com has listings from lots of different rescue organizations

[Edited on May 13, 2008 at 1:03 PM. Reason : like someone already mentioned]

5/13/2008 1:03:30 PM

quagmire02

Yes, I realize that not everyone keeps their pets in an apartment. My point is that by owning pets you are creating the problem of pet abuse. Pets would not exist if there was not a market for them. If you own a dog for no other purpose than to provide companionship, you are the one who is responsible for it getting run over, getting loose, being abused by someone, getting impregnated by a stray and all the associated discomfort that accompanies that for the pet. They are not wild animals that you are saving by adopting, they are here because somebody wants a cute puppy.

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5/13/2008 1:07:27 PM

One thing I have leaned about SPCA, PETA, and their followers - you may as well argue with a Stop sign...

5/13/2008 1:08:44 PM

that must mean the majority of those who belong to those groups are also liberals

5/13/2008 1:09:25 PM

Could be a correlation.

5/13/2008 1:10:07 PM

Adopt from the county animal control. I got Radar (pictured) from there, he was probably a 6 months old pure-bred puppy (I can't know, since he was a runaway) for the minimal cost of about $100, including microchip, shots, and neutering. There was no interview.

http://www.wakegov.com/pets/default.htm

5/13/2008 1:24:35 PM

an interview to adopt a animal... hahah.. get the fuck outta here spca... a human being is willing to share his time and money for a pet and you try to stunt with an interview. weird actually.

5/13/2008 1:26:56 PM

great looking dog phillip.

Seedless, I dont have a problem with interviewing for an adoption. There are alot of crazy assholes out there. I know they freeze adoptions of black cats around halloween bc people use them in rituals and kill them.

5/13/2008 1:34:39 PM

crazy people... haha.. and the spca is that worried about animal that they would keep it, and quite possibly have to kill it from it not being adopted from the rejection of a so-called crazy person... in my opinion 'crazy' or socially awkward people have more love for they pets that 'normal' people. that shit is just to subjective, and retarded, if you will, just for a dog or cat, when you can go the country and just ask 5 people do they know where they could get a barn car from, and get an overwhelming response.

5/13/2008 1:37:19 PM

and furthermore, anybody that wanted animals for malicious intents, or knew they would be abusive to a pet, would not go the the spca most likely anyway, but spca logic is about the same as girl logic

5/13/2008 1:43:30 PM

you guys are pissed at people for doing and following their job. yeah it might not make sense to you, but they are doing what they are told to do. im sure there is plenty of things at your job where people come in, and want you to do certain things but you just cant, so you tell them what they are suppose to do...end of story.

5/13/2008 1:44:50 PM

the spca makes the rules... did i say workers, or the spca... or are you not fully reading here?

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5/13/2008 1:45:31 PM

I know what you mean, but you dont want one going to train fighting dogs or missing out on a good home.

I see your point, at least its alive, but if someone isnt willing to do an interview to get the animal then they probably arent ready to have one.

I too was denied a dog bc I didnt have a fenced in yard. They werent a kill shelter, so I could understand them having thier own standards.. but the spca should relook at how they determine thier adoptions.

5/13/2008 1:46:13 PM

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"you dont want one going to train fighting dogs or missing out on a good home"

thats the bullshit right there i am talking about... why make such assumptions

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5/13/2008 1:47:18 PM

further more, anyone thats fights dogs are not even going to risk going to a professional pet adoption agency to get a dog for training (no one REALLY does this) to adopt a dog for fighting purposes... come one and be realistic and think about what you are saying.

5/13/2008 1:51:58 PM

I went in there and they looked up the tax records on my house to make sure I own it. Then my girlfriend told them she had a cat. They wanted all of the cats vet records. This is after we had been there like an hour.

Then they said it would be a two week period before our application got approved and that would be if everything "checked out". As far as I am concerned they can keep their dogs and kiss my ass. Rather than run the operation logically and finding good homes for as many pets as they can they would rather pull reasons out of their ass to keep a dog there and waste space for others that are about to be put down.

I ended up getting a great dog from an animal shelter and was very happy with that process. I handed them $20.00 and walked out with a puppy.

5/13/2008 1:52:52 PM

^ wow...

checked your tax records... hahah i would have told them thx for their time and walked out right then, and told them i was walking out because their adoption process is to rigorous, and probing into my personal life. whenever you even remotely equate any animal with a human, or even close, you really need some mental help.

5/13/2008 1:57:21 PM

I have a friend that volunteers at the Wake County Animal Shelter, which is a kill shelter. She said that the no-kill SPCA shelter had several hundred volunteers while this one was horribly understaffed at thirty (even though they have a little county support--and neutering is done at the vet school).

People want to take their kids to volunteer at a safe, non-gritty sort of place.

I'm sort of disillusioned with the SPCA after having friends adopt animals form there and then seeing what it's like at the county shelter.

I think the SPCA does good work, but their branding gives the impression they are "better" than public county shelters or save more animals--which is to the detriment of the county shelters.

5/13/2008 3:13:32 PM

Cute puppy phillihp

5/13/2008 3:15:56 PM

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"I ended up getting a great dog from an animal shelter and was very happy with that process. I handed them $20.00 and walked out with a puppy."

while i agree that the spca may go a bit overboard, i think simply giving animals away like this is just as crazy. there needs to be some kind of accountability or the animal will just end up back in a shelter.

5/13/2008 3:28:22 PM

i only skimmed the 1st and 3rd pages but...

1. i agree with the SPCA being too strict. its like people refusing to adopt a dog do you because you live in an apartment or a condo. people that have apartments can be responsible pet owners too. actually, just sticking a dog outside in a fenced yard all day isn't a very good way to train and socialize it and a lot of dogs get turned back in when they jump on people and are too hyper. what makes a pet owner is not a yard/lack of yard.

2. i am against declawing cats but that is just my opinion. i understand that it is annoying to have a cat scratching up all your nice furniture. i just didn't want to put my cat through it, i know some vets that won't even do declaw surgery and my cat doesn't scratched because i trained her. she does scratch underneath my bed, but i'm not too worried about that

3. i am adopting a dog (well, WHEN i adopt a dog) from the wake shelter FOR SURE. they are understaffed and the benefits of adopting a dog from there seem good. they aren't as strict as the spca (which i guess could be a good or bad thing) and the fee is $120 which includes spay/neuter etc. plus its a kill shelter and i'd much rather "save" an animal. a lot of other shelters in NC don't even give the dogs any type of medical treatment at least at wake they test for heartworms, and include the spay and neuter costs in the fee. at other shelters you can just snag a dog for like $20 and it doesn't come with any type of shots or anything AND the people who adopt will probably never spay/neuter because it is $$. although at least some require proof of a rabies vaccine w/in a certain number of days

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5/13/2008 3:29:44 PM

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"there needs to be some kind of accountability or the animal will just end up back in a shelter."

wow... do you think for a second i would delve into my personal life to adopt an animal?... lets be realistic... please.

5/13/2008 3:51:32 PM

i understand like checking leases to make sure that pets are allowed, but besides that everything else seems a little too invasive

5/13/2008 3:56:28 PM

i can agree with that. thats at least reasonable.

5/13/2008 3:57:52 PM

both of my pups came from county humane societies: mia from randolph and suki from columbus. both came spayed w/ all shots and first rabies. mia was $75 and suki was $110. both were found via http://www.petfinder.com
mia


suki

5/13/2008 4:11:46 PM