^^Not as bad as sitting through the Indiana Jones previews once, being confronted with a black screen, and watching the manager fuss with the machine upstairs for about half an hour during which time you watch the previews (fast forwarded) two or three more times. At least we got our money back.

6/28/2008 5:20:40 PM

I kept waiting for the CEO to say, "HEY, WHA HAPPENED?"

6/28/2008 6:16:04 PM

Just got back from it, and LOVED IT. Just a few complaints:

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1) Why would the robots have emotions (I want an in-universe explanation, I already know that there would be no plot without it)? How is being able to love relevant to shitting out compressed trash?

2) Wall-E was obviously a boy robot and Eve a girl robot. Why do robots need gender?

3) Why did the ship dump its trash into space? If they keep throwing everything away, aren't they eventually going to run out of material to build/maintain stuff?

4) How the hell did that plant grow inside of a seal fridge? There'd be no sunlight, so there'd be nothing that could grow in there.

5) That one little plant was the only one that we saw. If life back on earth was truly sustainable once again, wouldn't we have seen a little bit more vegetation? At the very least, wouldn't more than one probe have found life?

6) I appreciate environmentalism, but the whole "we've relied on our technology so much that not only have we killed the surface of our planet, we've also grown fat and complacent" message was a bit too much.

7) If the people on board the ship had spent their entire lives being sedentary, how were their fat asses even be able to stand?

8) Eeeew, fat people love.






























That is all.

[Edited on June 28, 2008 at 9:44 PM. Reason : more room for spoilers]

6/28/2008 9:43:58 PM

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1) Because when you get to a point where you actually have to interact with robots on a daily basis, you make them humanoid. Wall-E obviously didn't have emotions when he was new, but he developed them over 700 years of figuring out mankind via trash.

2) Same as #1, every robot that you interact with regularly needs to be humanoid in some form...Macintalk, for instance, comes in male and female voices, but not a genderless voice.

3) I would assume that they dock at some outpost and get material.

4) Life finds a way.

5) That's the whole point. CEO says it's never going to happen, even if there is vegetation, but the Captain wants to live, not just survive.

6) See my bit about the 10 minutes that dragged.

7) So they could make a reference to 2001.

8) They were cute. Especially Ratzenberger.























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[Edited on June 28, 2008 at 10:00 PM. Reason : s]

6/28/2008 10:00:06 PM

just bought a talking Wall-e, because I'm a dork

might go see the movie again, because there's nothing else to do

6/28/2008 10:12:24 PM

thorsten

I did see it in theatre 7. It was def out of focus, even during previews. When credits rolled at end the names were not legible until 1/3 up the screen. During the movie itself it was not that obvious, but I do wonder how much sweeter it could have looked.

Also FYI I complained during the short and they made some adjustments that did not help. Manager afterwards said he had already had complaints about focus.

6/28/2008 10:16:31 PM

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1) The robots don't have to actually have emotions, it'd be enough to give them pre-programmed responses. And again, Wall-E was just a cleaner bot, who I doubt humans would talk to very much beyond commanding him to pick up garbage. Why would his programming need to be any more complex beyond "gather up trash, compress it into brick, shit out brick"? Why would Eve ever need to have AI sophisticated enough to make her laugh?

2) Granted, but same as #1. Gender is more than just one's voice. It's also in the personality, behavior, etc.

3) Could be, but seeing as we never see one that is speculation and nothing more. But even if this was the case, why would you dump the trash into space. That's wasting perfectly good building material that can be melted down and re-used. That'd be like them flushing their piss and shit out into space, or dumping their used air out. When you're in as inhospitable an area as space, you need to make every system as closed and as self-sustaining as possible.

4) That still doesn't answer the question.

5) What the hell does quoting the captain have to do with the existence of other plants, or the lack thereof? I didn't say it was impossible, I just wanted to know why our grow-in-the-dark plant was the only example of vegetation that they discovered. If you're not going to answer the question, don't respond with anything.

6) I've read a couple of other people's posts, this seems to be a common complaint.

7) That's the out-of-universe excuse. I want to know the in-universe explanation.

8) Meh, we agree to disagree.




























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6/28/2008 10:32:22 PM

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"7) That's the out-of-universe excuse. I want to know the in-universe explanation."

The fact that it's a film is part of its universe. It's the same as Anna Karina winking at the camera. Why do the docking bays look like the ones in Star Wars? A creative design team could come up with all sorts of interesting new bay designs, but this film uses as part of its lyric nature the collective pop conciousness of modern America. To answer your direct question, it doesn't make any sense, and it also doesn't matter.

6/28/2008 10:40:09 PM

In other words, "it's just a film, don't take it so seriously."

No fucking shit, Sherlock. I'm well aware that it's just a movie and that shit happens because that's how the writers say it happens. I don't care about that right now, I'm temporarily suspending that because I want to know how the hell the thing I asked about could ever happen in real life.

6/28/2008 10:44:10 PM

Well then start asking about the twinkies and the pop art cockroach and the scale problems with the ships and all sorts of other things that don't matter.

When a movie is anchored in a feasible universe, it's fair to critique unfeasible things. When Johnny 5 and an iPod are in love on a Mon Calamari ship that's driven by HAL and a Sigourney Weaver-voiced computer, you can throw it all out the window.

Any movie that waves at you and says, "Hey, I'm a movie!" should be excused, at least to some extent, from the nitpicky things.

6/28/2008 10:48:01 PM

It looks like I won't have to, seeing as you brought them up just now.

Your edit smacks of "I either can't or am too lazy to answer your questions, so stop asking them," but I'll let it alone. It was a good movie, and so I guess that is sufficient.

[Edited on June 28, 2008 at 10:53 PM. Reason : yadda yadda yadda]

6/28/2008 10:51:05 PM

My point is that many of your questions are unanswerable, and if you asked Andrew Stanton, he'd probably say, "I don't know, and I don't care."

6/28/2008 10:56:43 PM

Actually, I change my mind now. If a fucking cockroach can get squished and be fine, then clearly convincing realism wasn't one of the aims of the movie.

6/28/2008 10:57:25 PM

The world's smoothest, most symmetrical cockroach, too.

Whoever designed that little guy was a genius. An expressive cockroach with no face.

6/28/2008 10:59:28 PM

WE'RE HARD TO KILL, LIKE COCKROACHES

6/28/2008 11:00:38 PM

In my opinion, the film would have actually been slightly better if the ending had gone the other way (if you know what I mean). It certainly would have been different.

6/28/2008 11:02:23 PM

^ i was certainly hoping for it.

overall i liked it, but it was not as epic as i was expecting. not better than ratatouille, imo. i grant you, i loved ratatouille.

6/28/2008 11:05:25 PM

^^ I actually agree.

6/28/2008 11:54:54 PM

i found myself highly entertained. It was quite neat

6/28/2008 11:56:39 PM

Out of curiosity, I wonder how long it will take for Wall-E porn to be created and then find its way into the Rule 34 thread.

6/29/2008 12:21:04 AM

that's a horrible horrible thought...

6/29/2008 12:25:55 AM

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"When Johnny 5 and an iPod are in love on a Mon Calamari ship that's driven by HAL and a Sigourney Weaver-voiced computer, you can throw it all out the window. "

Wall-E did look like a mini Johnny 5!

6/29/2008 12:37:09 AM

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"In my opinion, the film would have actually been slightly better if the ending had gone the other way (if you know what I mean). It certainly would have been different."

you, still have to remember that this is a kid's movie

6/29/2008 1:01:28 AM

to the guy with the numbered questions:

you went to a pixar movie about a robot love story looking for absolute realism?

6/29/2008 1:07:29 AM

I got too carried away.

^^It would be good for the kids, though. It would build character or something.

[Edited on June 29, 2008 at 1:11 AM. Reason : blah]

6/29/2008 1:10:10 AM

johnrey80, sorry you had such a shitty experience. message sent...

6/29/2008 1:41:01 AM

I enjoyed it, I wasn't blown away or anything. I would've also liked the "other" ending.

After the ending, I turned to my friend next to me and said "How long until a war breaks out?"

6/29/2008 1:53:07 AM

Saw it last night, fucking loved it.

6/29/2008 8:20:01 AM

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". If a fucking cockroach can get squished and be fine, then clearly convincing realism wasn't one of the aims of the movie."

It took that for you to figure out that realism wasn't the aim of the movie?

Really?

6/29/2008 9:36:50 AM

You people are obsene. Everyone knows it is a movie, but it is an interesting throught exercise to rationalize the irrational, and yet everyone seems desperate to squash the fun. If umbrellaman or any other person wants to play the "take it seriously game" what business is it of yours to ridicule them into silence? Do we come into your house when you are playing Risk and make snide remarks until you stop?

6/29/2008 11:15:34 AM

Once again, there's a line of expectation that has to be considered if you're going to play that game, and in this case there are so many things that have obviously and purposefully ignored as far as realism goes, it's not even worth the time or effort. umbrellaman listed eight questions, and I could add at least fifteen more along the same lines, but they're irrelevant because we're not dealing with a director who trades in realism.

6/29/2008 11:55:44 AM

As a pessimistic scientific type who tries to rationalize shit and was picking at things in my mind while watching this with the ladyfriend that didn't or wouldn't happen in real life- It's a fucking little kids movie. Go rationalize all the shit ACME components really would or wouldn't do for the Roadrunner and the coyote, or the impossible physical stresses incurred by Tom and Jerry. Jesus, the more likely probability is that the creators put all this shit that isn't perfectly cohesive because of the plot, as well as having little themes or inside jokes that only adults would comprehend. Enjoy the movie for what it is.

/rant

6/29/2008 1:19:05 PM

My expectations have now gone down a little bit. My roommate saw it last night and said it was good but Kung Fu Panda was better.

6/29/2008 1:30:12 PM

I can't find any of the Wall-e toys anywhere. I thought this stuff was supposed to be out when the movie releases.

6/29/2008 1:32:08 PM

Toys-r-us at Crossroads had just a few items left last night. Shit flew off the shelves, apparently.

6/29/2008 1:40:18 PM

I actually kind of liked Kung Fu Panda, which is a first for me and Dreamworks, but Wall-E is on a whole different level artistically.

6/29/2008 1:55:06 PM

i loved it.

6/29/2008 5:04:33 PM

This movie is disgusting.

Considering that Pixar was at least at one time radically pro-abortion (they wouldn’t lease prints of their short films to theaters in some states that held the wrong politics on abortion), it would seem that the death of all people is a goal they actually could see as a positive thing.

It's just an example of more liberal bias in kid’s movies. The eco-nazis of the left like to brainwash them young. The fact is, thismovie is left liberals biased because it makes fun of Bush and says corporations are bad, why, this is unamerican and biased, like the left leaning hollyweird media. Here in the Heartland, we are steadfast and true to moral values and to Bush, who is awesome. I hate it when the cultural eleite have to make fun of conservatives and think its funny, its not, boycott them

6/29/2008 5:47:40 PM

^haha. i really like your sarcasm. especially:

Quote :

"Here in the Heartland, we are steadfast and true to moral values and to Bush, who is awesome."

but yeah i agree it was an awesome movie and interesting way to look at the future.

6/29/2008 6:01:20 PM

I kind of wish they had worked Brawno in there for the plant.

6/29/2008 6:31:15 PM

Was an awesome movie.


The "Earth" part of the movie reminded me a lot of the Fallout games, with apocalyptic scenery mixed with old music. The opening scene especially, with the panorama of the ruined city was very similar to a Fallout intro.

[Edited on June 30, 2008 at 1:09 AM. Reason : ]

6/30/2008 1:06:32 AM

Wow you go see a kid's movie and then bitch about it not being realistic?

Really? I mean Indiana Jones was one thing, but this was totally different. Great movie. I laughed more watching this than Zohan.

6/30/2008 1:30:02 AM

We saw it saturday at the Carmike at Cary Parkway and Chapel Hill in Cary. It looked fantastic. Their digital DLP projects are the best i've seen in the area.

Great movie. We got the free watch too,

6/30/2008 7:28:23 AM

Great movie. I enjoyed Kung Fu Panda more just because it was funnier. But the overall animation and storyline for this movie was a lot better.

The animated short at the beginning (Presto) was fucking hilarious.

6/30/2008 12:22:53 PM

wall e runs os x

6/30/2008 1:32:53 PM

^so THAT'S why he just compacts trash for a living.

6/30/2008 1:37:20 PM

When I went to ToysRUs ten days ago, they had every Wall-E toy imaginable, including four different sizes of Wall-E figures and action playsets and whatnot. I bought one for my girlfriend because I knew they'd be impossible to find post-release, and they are.

6/30/2008 2:09:49 PM

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"The "Earth" part of the movie reminded me a lot of the Fallout games, with apocalyptic scenery mixed with old music. The opening scene especially, with the panorama of the ruined city was very similar to a Fallout intro."

Godamn I loved me some Fallout. I thought they were having another one come out but it's been a while.

6/30/2008 2:19:22 PM

Fallout 3 comes out this fall.

6/30/2008 2:30:48 PM

Saw it yesterday, incredible movie. Fantastic visuals, great story, and a lot of laughs. Yes, it did get a bit preachy about consumer culture, but I don't actually think it was over the top. I loved the vast number of references to other sci-fi films also, but even if you've never seen any of them, it's still excellent. Just may have to see it again while it's still in the theaters...

6/30/2008 2:58:00 PM