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"It gets on my nerves how many people drink bottled water even though their tap water is perfectly fine and tastes good. I don't get it."

amen

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 12:01 PM. Reason : .]

8/26/2008 12:01:35 PM

They're retards.

I personally prefer filtered well water to any other.

8/26/2008 12:01:59 PM

Quote :

"It gets on my nerves how many people drink bottled water even though their tap water is perfectly fine and tastes good. I don't get it."

matter of opinion...i grew up on well water and raleigh water tastes like a chemical repository

don't get me wrong, i don't buy bottled water...i filter mine and add a bit of lemon, and that tastes great...but raleigh water is far from tasting "good"

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 12:05 PM. Reason : .]

8/26/2008 12:04:36 PM

I mean that they have said they don't mind the taste of their tap water and just use the bottles because it's easier, or something.

8/26/2008 12:06:05 PM

i hate that bottled water/well water doesnt have flouride

8/26/2008 12:06:51 PM

check out your energy calculator to see how much you use...
http://www.nwf.org/energy/greencalculator.cfm

i also hate it when ppl only drink bottled water...water filters are awesome these days and they have NO excuse...you can install one on your spicket, for goodness sake (for lazy ppls). i personally LOVE the water out of our fridge...it is filtered, but it's the best around.


[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 12:13 PM. Reason : ]

8/26/2008 12:10:05 PM

Quote :

"Energy Calculator Based on your input, you produce 10,150 pounds, or 5 tons, of carbon dioxide each year! It takes 406 trees to store this much carbon dioxide. Based on the U.S. average of 12,151 - 24,300 pounds, you produce less carbon dioxide than average. Learn what else you can do to reduce energy use. "

8/26/2008 12:13:01 PM

yeah i'm closer to 16.7k.

you can never do too much!!

8/26/2008 12:22:00 PM

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"i helped a friend move some stuff yesterday and she and her boyfriend were talking about taking their old tv's to the trash. i suggested that they should recycle them and they had never EVER heard of doing this."

I think City of Raleigh will pick that stuff up now. This is all I could find, but I think they pick up tv's and things other than just computers:

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" Residents must call Solid Waste Services at 831-6890 to arrange for the special computer collection. Once an appointment is made the resident can leave the computer equipment at the curbside. Please do not set equipment out prior to the morning of the day designated for collection as it is not uncommon for such equipment to be taken by other people before city crews can get to it the next day."

If someone sets something beside the dumpster it usually still works and they want you to pick it up. If it was trash they'd toss it in the dumpster.

As far as the "living green" thing goes...I guess I am more conscientious now than I have been in the past. My house with two people makes one bag of trash and two bins filled over the top with recyclables just about every week. I actually bought a second trash can for my place at Lake Gaston this year and I bring the recyclables back with me. It's a pretty simple thing to do, but I bring back at least 1/2 of the green bin every week with all the beer and soda that gets drank up there.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 12:35 PM. Reason : s]

8/26/2008 12:31:17 PM

thanks! i had trouble finding that number...

8/26/2008 12:39:08 PM

For anyone who cares, there's a new delivery business in Raleigh that delivers local, organic food to your house each week. They're called Papa Spuds. My boss uses them, and has only good things to say about them, except that they're kinda expensive.
http://www.ecojoes.com/papa-spuds-delivers-local-organic-produce-to-you/

8/26/2008 2:50:21 PM

i hate organic food.

in the last week i've littered every day.

i saw a dog and kicked it.

8/26/2008 2:54:46 PM

it amuses me that people that are just cheap play it off as the reason they do it is because they are "green" as opposed to just a cheapass

8/26/2008 2:58:32 PM

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"As far as the "living green" thing goes...I guess I am more conscientious now than I have been in the past"

I disaggree w/ this somewhat. The "throw away society" we currently have is rather recent.

You could also debate modern technology, combustion engines etc on this, but meh I don't have the want.

8/26/2008 3:07:32 PM

I'd pay money to be anti-green.

8/26/2008 3:09:30 PM

Have you ever taken a shower in the rain? I have...it is pretty sweet!

8/26/2008 3:13:13 PM

if only global warming was real. then i wouldn't have to drive so far to get to the beach.

8/26/2008 3:14:51 PM

the only real value i see in going green is being more mindful of wastefulness and conserving out NONRENEWABLE resources


the problem are these bullshit "organic" operations and so-called eco-friendly products that are not only minimally effective at best, but many are flat out lies to the public and are meant to capitalize on a new market


in five years thell have moved on to something else

air dryers in your bathroom are not saving trees, paper towels are not wasting trees, organic/free range farming is almost completely a scam (except for the few who genuinely make the effort and they arent gonna last)

if you take a small patch of land and manage it properly and wisely incorporate all methods of farming and crop care you can do better than these massive, mega organic farming operations and will probably be more sustainable in the long run

its just a bunch of bullshit, all this movement has done is make the sheep completely narrowminded towards traditional farming, almost to the point of lunacy and drawing evercloser to physical violence

8/26/2008 3:15:32 PM

Quote :

"it amuses me that people that are just cheap play it off as the reason they do it is because they are "green" as opposed to just a cheapass"

i'm having trouble with your logic...pls to explain.

also, fatcatt316, i've been using papaspuds.com for about 4 months now...great service! and you can put your delivery on hold if you want to only do a few weeks out of the month or you're going on vacation, etc.

8/26/2008 3:21:52 PM

why dont you bastards just drink the tap water


no wonder you people always get sick every day of the year, yall aint got no damn toughness in your blood

8/26/2008 3:25:15 PM

seriously


people are so quick to go to the doctor now a days

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 3:26 PM. Reason : "DOCTOR, GIVE ME SOME PILLS THAT WILL CURRRRRRRRRRRRE MEEEEEEE]

8/26/2008 3:25:49 PM

get your silliness out of my serious thread.

8/26/2008 3:26:49 PM

Quote :

"the only real value i see in going green is being more mindful of wastefulness and conserving out NONRENEWABLE resources the problem are these bullshit "organic" operations and so-called eco-friendly products that are not only minimally effective at best, but many are flat out lies to the public and are meant to capitalize on a new market in five years thell have moved on to something else air dryers in your bathroom are not saving trees, paper towels are not wasting trees, organic/free range farming is almost completely a scam (except for the few who genuinely make the effort and they arent gonna last) if you take a small patch of land and manage it properly and wisely incorporate all methods of farming and crop care you can do better than these massive, mega organic farming operations and will probably be more sustainable in the long run its just a bunch of bullshit, all this movement has done is make the sheep completely narrowminded towards traditional farming, almost to the point of lunacy and drawing evercloser to physical violence"

<3

8/26/2008 3:27:28 PM

the only thing silly is how brittle boned people are

8/26/2008 3:27:29 PM

lol

Quote :

" From : ********* To : drunknloaded Received : Tuesday August 26, 2008 at 3:06 PM Subject : Re: lol you are so online haha...omg you're so silly"

8/26/2008 3:27:30 PM

^^ lol.

8/26/2008 3:28:08 PM

I don't know how this turned into talking about bottled water, but yeah, it's a waste of money when you gots pure, clean tap water just waiting for you.

8/26/2008 3:53:35 PM

LIBERAL CONSPIRACY OMG

8/26/2008 3:58:01 PM

im talkin bout filtration too

8/26/2008 4:00:40 PM

I don't know why we are back on organic rants, when we've already talked about how stupid it is, w/ some exceptions. OMG YOU CHANGED MY FUCKING MIND YOU ARE MY FUCKING SAVIOUR

If you will take notice, most people in this thread are pushing locally grown produce, and some of us are growing our own. OMG YOU ARE A FUCKING BECKON OF LIFE CHANGING INFORMATION

And yes, we get it...most of the "green" you see being marketed isn't really.....DUUURRR

8/26/2008 4:03:10 PM

you meathead son of a bitch



last i checked, the issue of "sustainability" is a "green" issue so ill run my mouth in this thread if i want to

get back under the bench press rack



[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 4:22 PM. Reason : ss]

8/26/2008 4:20:40 PM

nm, we are largely in agreement, it's just that you are late on the ball.


However, the argument of organic being better for the enviroment is ~~

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 4:24 PM. Reason : ]

8/26/2008 4:22:29 PM

NO SHIT

i dont think you understand my point of view here

8/26/2008 4:23:32 PM

i think what arcgreek was meaning to say is that we welcome your thoughts, but we've already gone over this information during the course of the thread.

^pls help me understand your view.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 4:24 PM. Reason : ]

8/26/2008 4:23:41 PM

so im supposed to, what, not say anything?

i consolidated my overall views of the green industry into one post just like the title says


i dont think you two know how a public forum works

^um, that organic farming is a farce at best? that farming is best done using all methods of stewardship in a timely and cost effective manner, not just one half of methods

genetic modification, selection, chemicals, observation, cleanliness, and biology should all be used

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 4:26 PM. Reason : d]

8/26/2008 4:24:48 PM

Quote :

"it amuses me that people that are just cheap play it off as the reason they do it is because they are "green" as opposed to just a cheapass"

Quote :

""i'm having trouble with your logic...pls to explain."

i didn't say that everyone that goes green is cheap - it just seems that most of the people i've encountered that say they are/have are just cheap and want ways to cut down on their costs

of course this doesn't work for the people that truly are going green b/c some of the efforts require you to spend more money than the alternative - thus those options are often skipped

8/26/2008 4:38:15 PM

^^ it's cool if you want to get mad...i'm just saying that you're preaching to the converted about the way that this industry is getting more and more comercialized & corrupted and how ppl are just getting into it for the $$.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 4:56 PM. Reason : ]

8/26/2008 4:56:15 PM

not everyone reading this thread is "the converted"

seriously?

i suppose by your logic, we should allow only one book to be written about any given topic



[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 5:12 PM. Reason : d]

8/26/2008 5:11:26 PM

I mostly don't give a shit.
My car is a V8 with about 15mpg.
I never take public transportation. It's slow, inconvenient, crowded, and has too many ugly/poor/stinky/crazy people.
I run the air conditioner all summer and the heater all winter.
I recycle in public places if a receptacle is within easy reach. I don't save anything for recycling at home.
I don't compost, but then again, I don't have any houseplants or a yard to use compost in.
I use water and electricity sparingly to save money, not the environment.
I use paper towels frequently.
I throw trash out the car window when no one's around to call the cops about it.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 5:19 PM. Reason : :]

8/26/2008 5:17:37 PM

I recycle.
Don't use much AC/Heat or Light.
I use cruise control and I drive a Ranger (~20mpg, nothing to brag about).
I eat more vegetables and less animal products than the average person.
I take 5 min showers.
I usually let urine mellow in the toilet.
I hand wash dishes.

8/26/2008 5:56:59 PM

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"I eat more vegetables and less animal products than the average person."

I get it, but I could never do it.


BigHit, my the logic behind my posts turning confrontational...???? I'm having a bad day.

8/26/2008 8:08:29 PM

it's a fad. Americans love doing something without doing anything. Most "green" people buy an organic cotton shirt but won't pick up trash in a park. It's like the yellow ribbon magnet folks who want to support the troops without damaging their car's paint.

8/26/2008 8:14:00 PM

Based on your input, you produce 10,929 pounds, or 5 tons, of carbon dioxide each year! It takes 437 trees to store this much carbon dioxide.

Based on the U.S. average of 12,151 - 24,300 pounds, you produce less carbon dioxide than average.

[Edited on August 26, 2008 at 8:25 PM. Reason : &]

8/26/2008 8:24:39 PM

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"it's a fad. Americans love doing something without doing anything. Most "green" people buy an organic cotton shirt but won't pick up trash in a park. It's like the yellow ribbon magnet folks who want to support the troops without damaging their car's paint."

Nerdchick, i think there are different groups of people, not just one lump sum of Americans that do the same thing as a huge group:
1) people that would rather not know what's going on and blindly do what they want, regardless of what that is (i would put these people in the listen to Bob & the Showgram and don't listen to the news, etc.)
2) people that do little bits here at there (maybe only recycle, etc.) but if they were given more info, they might do more
3) people that are actively trying to do more and looking for ideas to reduce/recycle/reuse
4) people that know a good deal about all of this and have a good attitude and want to teach others
5) people that know a good deal about all of this and think that everyone else sucks b/c they don't either know or do anything.

i made this thread specifically to give those that want more info (or those that are ignorant) a place to learn more from people just like you.

please enlighten us.

[Edited on August 29, 2008 at 9:47 PM. Reason : ]

8/29/2008 9:45:18 PM

I like to buy organic stuff, but I was doing it before it was "cool." Has less to do with environmental concerns and more to do with pesticides scare me

Oh, and I don't own a car. I guess that counts for something lol.

[Edited on August 31, 2008 at 5:21 AM. Reason : .]

8/31/2008 5:20:03 AM

my thoughts are that conservation never produces any electricity, gas, or beer.


if i use a lot of that shit, somebody will make more since they know im going to buy it.

if i dont use it, people wont make as much.





look what happened with water rates.

people stopped using as much, so they had to raise rates since they sell water and obviously weren't selling as much.

8/31/2008 9:19:59 AM

It pisses me off how they use scare tatics:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEJ5pHVKjiI


Poor kids.

8/31/2008 10:07:07 AM

Quote :

"There are 4 types of Envirolet® Composting Toilet Systems to choose from. To help decide which type is best for you, try our Help Choosing section or contact us."

http://www.envirolet.com/models.html

What do people think of these?

8/31/2008 10:34:49 PM