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"i know, i hate it when nobel prize winning physicists are put in charge of energy instead of oil men Things were better when a horse trainer was in charge of FEMA."

pwnt

12/17/2008 10:41:14 AM

^^Mothafucka has style.

[Edited on December 17, 2008 at 10:42 AM. Reason : .]

12/17/2008 10:42:36 AM

Mista Smoove

12/17/2008 11:49:00 AM

^^^YEAH B/C ITS GREAT TO PUT SOMEONE IN CHARGE THAT HAS ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND ON AN ISSUE THAT IS BY NO MEANS DECIDED.

pwnt my ass.

12/17/2008 12:59:59 PM

goddamn, what are you crying about now?

12/17/2008 3:30:04 PM

will you be throwing tantrums for 8 years straight?

seriously - stop hating on people because they're smart

12/17/2008 3:45:26 PM

dude. he's a tke.


i mean, look at them: photos/00335810.jpg




[Edited on December 17, 2008 at 4:22 PM. Reason : ]

12/17/2008 4:16:38 PM

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"YEAH B/C ITS GREAT TO PUT SOMEONE IN CHARGE THAT HAS ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND ON AN ISSUE THAT IS BY NO MEANS DECIDED."

i find scientists to be some of the most skeptical people out there. i mean it's there job to doubt things. i would assume that a scientist would be far more likely to weigh the data that is out there rather than make an ideological decision.

12/17/2008 4:41:57 PM

Seriously, is that the best you can do? Attack me personally when I have a problem with Cabinet picks? Attack my fraternity and old photos in my profile? Guess what, everyone knows I'm a TKE. Its in my name, and I'm proud to have been in that fraternity.

There's nothing wrong with being alarmed about pro-AGW people being put in charge of our government when there is absolutely no proof that CO2 emissions are causing an increased temperature. Oh wait, the global temperature hasn't risen since 2001...

12/17/2008 4:54:06 PM

12/17/2008 5:01:26 PM

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THE TEMPERATURE HAS RISEN GLOBALLY EVER

12/17/2008 5:13:09 PM

The pick of Ken Salazar for the Dept. of the Interior was a pleasant surprise for me. He's a good moderate who will likely try to balance the need for land use with conservation. However, from the press I've been reading, the environmentalists are pissed off. I'm glad that Obama is tacking toward the center with his cabinet, but I do wonder what'll happen if he further aggravates his more left-leaning allies with decisions like this, or perhaps he will throw them some "red meat" later on in form of other bills.

12/17/2008 5:36:35 PM

I think the decision to select Rick Warren to do the invocation is another example of what I mentioned. I am a bit puzzled though given how furious the anti-Prop 8 crowd was with Warren; Obama selecting Warren to do the invocation at the inauguration is perhaps the ultimate insult to what was otherwise a very loyal community to Obama. It makes sense if he's positioning himself to rule from the center, but it's going to start alienating his supporters.

12/17/2008 8:03:14 PM

^^^^The 30s were the hottest decade on record, so that graph isn't accurate.

12/17/2008 8:22:55 PM

That graph also isn't a graph of temperatures (though the title would certainly make you think it was)

12/17/2008 8:26:59 PM

^good point. I knew it was only temperature variation, but i didn't put that together in my head

Very interesting chart, "Temperature anomaly". Interesting, b/c the earth's temperature has never been static.

[Edited on December 17, 2008 at 8:36 PM. Reason : k]

12/17/2008 8:34:31 PM

Oh no, not this shit again.

Learn to read a graph, goddamn.

^^^ The 30's were absolutely NOT the hottest years on record. They were the hottest years on record in the United States. There is more to the world than just the US.

12/17/2008 9:38:25 PM

NADER 2012

12/17/2008 9:53:49 PM

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"Why are the temperatures expressed as anomalies from 1961-90? Stations on land are at different elevations, and different countries estimate average monthly temperatures using different methods and formulae. To avoid biases that could result from these problems, monthly average temperatures are reduced to anomalies from the period with best coverage (1961-90). For stations to be used, an estimate of the base period average must be calculated. Because many stations do not have complete records for the 1961-90 period several methods have been developed to estimate 1961-90 averages from neighbouring records or using other sources of data. Over the oceans, where observations are generally made from mobile platforms, it is impossible to assemble long series of actual temperatures for fixed points. However it is possible to interpolate historical data to create spatially complete reference climatologies (averages for 1961-90) so that individual observations can be compared with a local normal for the given day of the year. "

fyi

12/17/2008 9:57:52 PM

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"^^^YEAH B/C ITS GREAT TO PUT SOMEONE IN CHARGE THAT HAS ALREADY MADE UP THEIR MIND ON AN ISSUE THAT IS BY NO MEANS DECIDED. pwnt my ass."

I'm curious, do you have a reasonable suggestion of someone you'd like to see in the position? Or are you just copy/pasting some argument you read on whatever right leaning blog/website you frequent...because I know you didn't have these opinions on you're own.

12/17/2008 10:08:02 PM

^No I'm afraid its MY OPINION you dolt. Nice try though. Wow, its really amazing how easy it is to be attacked for opposing AGW. Its almost like a sample of the whole scientific community. And no I haven't researched who I'd pick for those cabinet positions b/c I don't have enough free time for that sort of thing. But I would absolutely pick someone more open minded and even handed, not some closed minded nuts from CA.

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"The 30's were absolutely NOT the hottest years on record. They were the hottest years on record in the United States. There is more to the world than just the US."

I knew it was either the world or the US, I couldn't remember

[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 12:55 AM. Reason : k]

12/18/2008 12:53:50 AM

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"There's nothing wrong with being alarmed about pro-AGW people being put in charge of our government when there is absolutely no proof that CO2 emissions are causing an increased temperature"

I'd say there is a definite correlation but i would not say its a direct casuation.

I am sick of hearing both sides uneducated partisan-hack arguments about the issue. GOPers are tards if they think humans could never have an impact on the climate of the earth which is after all a closed system fundamentally. Liberal hippy douches are just fear-mongering with their the crazy flooding, crazy category 5 hurricanes, mass starvation predictions due to global warming.

12/18/2008 6:54:31 AM

Yep, predictably, as the issue has become more political and polarizing, the truth has become more obscured.

It's about time for both sides to pipe down on the rhetoric.

12/18/2008 11:36:04 AM

^^you should try doing some research on the matter and then post something worth reading.

12/18/2008 11:49:07 AM

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" OBAMA TAPS SCHAPIRO"

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/12/18/transition.wrap/index.html

12/18/2008 12:22:14 PM

HUR is completely right

we are a product of the neo-industrial age, and also an environmental anomaly that happens every 250-500 years years .. the combination of the 2 is destructive, but nature always finds a way

until we realize, no matter how bad it gets, nature WILL find a way.. if a certain amount of responsibility/technology is understood, which i think we are 100x better than during carter's days, we cant point the finger at a single candidate

12/18/2008 1:33:58 PM

bringing change, one tax-evader at a time

2/7/2009 10:40:25 PM

^^



^ better than being blatantly corrupt though, right?

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"Michael S. Steele, the newly elected chairman of the Republican National Committee, arranged for his 2006 Senate campaign to pay a defunct company run by his sister for services that were never performed, his finance chairman from that campaign has told federal prosecutors."

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/06/AR2009020604151.html?hpid=topnews

2/7/2009 11:17:40 PM