yes

1/22/2009 11:55:43 PM

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"If he had just stabbed her instead of cutting off her head... you could say that he did the Hokie pokey"

10/10

1/22/2009 11:57:24 PM

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"everyone I've talked to said their isn't a knife sharp enough to do this job without getting some japanese sword or axe. I think they're full of shit..."

They are.

For the most part because Japanese swords aren't anything special. The katana is probably the most overrated weapon in history.

1/23/2009 12:02:16 AM

this is a pretty brutal scenario, then. The kind that would horrify anyone who witnessed it...

There were witnesses, so what the heck would you do after you realized what was going on and it was too late?

1/23/2009 12:06:00 AM

start reachin for the glock .40 tucked underneath my shirt

1/23/2009 12:07:28 AM

is a concealed weapon allowed on campus?

1/23/2009 12:09:27 AM

^no. You are not allowed to carry on any state property (GS 14-269.4), state building (GS 14-415.11) or educational institution (GS 14-269.2), so they got you thrice.


it's shit like this that makes me wish concealed carry permit holders were allowed to carry on college campuses. hell, even if you had to be registered with the university and take some other course on top of the standard cc course- it would still be worth it to be able to stop crazy shit like this.

[Edited on January 23, 2009 at 12:12 AM. Reason : ^]

1/23/2009 12:09:46 AM

i highly doubt you would have been able to stop this even if you were cc'ing

this dude probably had her head off b4 95% of the room even realized what happened


^^nope

[Edited on January 23, 2009 at 12:11 AM. Reason : ^^]

1/23/2009 12:11:17 AM

^^
yeah, it would be worth it until some lunatic with a concealed weapons permit lost his temper, pulled out his gun and shot 17 people


[Edited on January 23, 2009 at 12:22 AM. Reason : /]

1/23/2009 12:11:58 AM

man, then what did he do? just sit there?

I think I'm trying to piece this together too early.

1/23/2009 12:12:54 AM

well let's hope they have pieced the victim together at least

1/23/2009 12:13:29 AM

ok

1/23/2009 12:17:54 AM

^^^^ permit holders aren't too likely to commit gun crimes, according to my cc instructor and the dudes at PDHSC.

http://mcgonigle.us/bill/blog/articles/2008/03/21/gun-crime-statistics
http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp

[Edited on January 23, 2009 at 12:19 AM. Reason : ^]

1/23/2009 12:18:49 AM

while I think they would know more than most, wouldn't they also be the first to say that permit holders don't attack the most as nonpermit? Also, what's the percentage there? I mean, if 1 out of 12 crimes are committed by permit holders and only 1 in 30 people are permit holders, wouldn't that negate everything?

nm, i read the links... don't know how reliable, but more info than I could guess

[Edited on January 23, 2009 at 12:21 AM. Reason : ]

1/23/2009 12:20:32 AM

^^
okay, you're right

1/23/2009 12:24:38 AM

Straight from an RPD instructor:

whenever a permit holder fires a weapon, no matter if it is justified or not, there is almost always going to be a civil suit by the victim's (the dude who got shot, regardless of whether he deserved it) family. the family could say something along the lines of:

"well bob was going to kick that crack habit he has had for the last 12 years, get clean, and become a cardiologist, and now that he's dead because steve shot him, our family will never see any of that income, so steve should pay us what bob would have made as a cardiologist."

although farfetched, some of that stuff gets through, and the permit holder, although justified in their actions, ends up with a manslaughter charge or soemthing equivalent.

1/23/2009 12:25:42 AM

1/23/2009 12:26:24 AM

we just had this discussion early today. So I'm assuming even if it is self defense if someone's got a cc permit they still get in trouble moreso than if they didn't (and they just used their hands or the other person's gun).

1/23/2009 12:27:31 AM

^^I don't know what that means.

off topic?

1/23/2009 12:27:54 AM

^the whole CC on campus thing

1/23/2009 12:29:28 AM

as long as the permit holder wasn't carrying in a prohibited area; they used deadly force only to prevent imminent threat of death, great bodily harm, or sexual assault; a normal person would have done the same thing; they weren't the instigator of the hostile situation; and the force used was not excessive (emptying 2 magazines when the first 4 shots did the job), most DA's won't even let it get to trial.

[Edited on January 23, 2009 at 12:32 AM. Reason : spellun]

1/23/2009 12:31:32 AM

ok, that answers it.

I have more questions but I'll just google it.

1/23/2009 12:33:03 AM

Quote :

"it's shit like this that makes me wish concealed carry permit holders were allowed to carry on college campuses. hell, even if you had to be registered with the university and take some other course on top of the standard cc course- it would still be worth it to be able to stop crazy shit like this"

1/23/2009 5:12:05 AM

What is up with the azns at VT? And why didn't someone knock this fucker out before he severed her head?

Yet another example of why we should be allowed to pack on campus.

1/23/2009 8:30:36 AM

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""it was probably a similar knife to the one OJ used""

Quote :

"wat dude was found innocent"

Yeah and the Ramseys have no idea what happened to their daughter.

1/23/2009 8:37:57 AM

I still don't know why everyone thinks that this could be accomplished in seconds.

I could see the whole chopping someone's head off in maybe a minute if they are tied down flat on a table with their head stretched back, but we are talking about a free person who presumably had some idea that she was being attacked, even if he got a stroke on her neck from behind first, who was probably fighting and grabbing the knife blade, etc.

Hopefully more details will emerge.

PS - I hope that this isn't a new trend amongst stressed out Asians.

1/23/2009 8:47:29 AM

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"I hope that this isn't a new trend amongst stressed out Asians."

No, it's an old trend amongst stressed out Asians. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Miyazaki

1/23/2009 8:02:06 PM

the trend continues

http://wcbstv.com/local/sushi.road.rage.2.916482.html

Quote :

"SUSHI RAGE: Chef Accused Of Going Knife Wild Traffic Dispute Gets Out Of Hand As Victim Gets 100 Stitches To Head, Tells CBS 2 HD: 'I Thought I Was Dying'"

1/24/2009 4:45:39 PM

Quote :

"chisel off her dome"

1/24/2009 4:58:46 PM

I wonder why this dude didn't get a gun. I guess he wanted to enjoy it?

This is some seriously messed up shit.

1/24/2009 4:59:10 PM

Quote :

"how can some girl piss you off enough in two weeks to chisel off her dome at a sandwich shop"

ahahahahaha

also, to the people above discussing self-defense, please learn the difference between a criminal offense and a civil offense before you post legal advice on the internets.

1/24/2009 5:03:16 PM

srsly?

1/24/2009 5:04:11 PM

muthafuckas act liek they forgot about the U

1/24/2009 5:07:23 PM

jesus is this place built on an old indian burial ground or what?

1/24/2009 5:26:48 PM

This is disgustingly gruesome. Hope he gets fried in an electric chair.

Anyway, threads such as this one are why I love TWW. Lots of winning posts up in this thread!

1/24/2009 5:48:33 PM

Quote :

"PS - I hope that this isn't a new trend amongst stressed out Asians."

Yeah, it is an old trend among stressed-out Japs, as wolfpackgrrr said. (don't know if it is a trend among CHinese) Couldn't get into university? Massacre some people. Job too stressful? Stab 15 colleagues. Dinner not ready when you get home? Kill 10 innocent women.

Bullying is so common and ingrained into Japanese school children that it is an art over there. And the businessmen, they work 80+ hrs like it is nothing.

Plus, the weird mix of repressed and free sexuality just adds further to the complicating factors. Not to mention, the whole history of samurais and ninjas, and the effects of that on contemporary Jap culture. Oh, and the Yakuza, and their effect on Jap culture. Plus, anime. Too many weird things in Jap culture to mention here! Plus, the whole sexualizing and fetishizing of young girls. Like allegedly used underwear of young girls available in vending machines

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Japanese_cannibals
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Japanese_murderers_of_children
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Japanese_serial_killers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Japanese_sex_offenders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categoryeople_convicted_of_murder_by_Japan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Executed_Japanese_people

A lot of the crimes are horrific. And not surprisingly, a lot involve knives and swords, and very few involve guns.

BTW,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsutomu_Miyazaki

Quote :

"On July 23, 1989, Miyazaki, while attempting to insert a zoom lens into the vagina of a grade school-aged girl in a park near her home, was attacked by the girl's father. Miyazaki fled on foot, but returned to the park to retrieve his car, whereupon he was promptly arrested."

Oh, and you GOTTA read this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guinea_Pig_(film_series)

I am sure some psycho here has the movies.

1/24/2009 6:18:05 PM

Quote :

"I still don't know why everyone thinks that this could be accomplished in seconds. I could see the whole chopping someone's head off in maybe a minute if they are tied down flat on a table with their head stretched back, but we are talking about a free person who presumably had some idea that she was being attacked, even if he got a stroke on her neck from behind first, who was probably fighting and grabbing the knife blade, etc."

if it was an ambush, which i suspect it was, he could've killed her almost instantly with a stab through the neck, and there would've never been any struggle at all.

[Edited on January 27, 2009 at 2:59 PM. Reason : asdfads]

1/27/2009 2:57:30 PM

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1/27/2009 3:16:14 PM

bttt

http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=11002081

UPDATED: Two Virginia Tech students found dead in Montgomery County

blurb: "A search warrant filed Friday morning in Montgomery County reveals few additional details about the killings of two Virginia Tech students. Heidi Lynn Childs and David Lee Metzler were found dead along Craig Creek Road in Montgomery County Thursday morning.

The Montgomery County Sheriff's Department requested the warrant to search Metzler's car, a 1992 Toyota found at the crime scene. The search warrant affidavit says an investigator found Metzler's body inside the car. Childs' body was found outside the Toyota.

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Here's a news release from Virginia State Police:

"Tonight, the Virginia State Police grieves with Sgt. Donald Childs and his family during this deeply difficult and painful time. I extend my most heartfelt condolences and deepest sympathies to his loved ones, along with all members of his state police family. I also ask that you keep the Metzler family in your thoughts and prayers as they grieve for David.

During this time of tremendous sorrow, the Childs family asks for members of the press to respect their privacy as they mourn the loss of their young daughter, Heidi. The family is not prepared to take any calls or issue any further statements at this time. We hope that you will respect their wishes.""

8/28/2009 10:45:35 AM