The brickyard and 600 are not "bigger" races. they never have been and never will be. Where did you come up with that?

Quote :

"Maybe stickin to one pussy has put him straight"

gordon had an affair with Ray Everham, which got busted and ray got fired. to not lose everything he had, he paid brooke off. You need to change that shit from pussy to "cock"

Anyhow, below is the dumbest fucking article I have ever read. This guy thinks that the winner of the 500 should be the nascar champ. I hate when dumbfucks try to write about a sport they have never followed. The 500 was always a big deal because you get paid the most money for winning....that’s it. Back in the day everyone tried to get into this race because of the winners purse (which was just as much as winning the championship back then).

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"DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- NASCAR should stop awarding points for the Daytona 500. Or at least stop calling it "our Super Bowl," which it isn't. Not anymore, and not by a long shot. Call it what it is: NASCAR's smash-hit extravaganza preseason exhibition. NASCAR has always shot for the show above all else, and now that's what it's got in its showcase event: a show. That's all. This is not meant disrespectfully toward Matt Kenseth. His win here Sunday night was no more, no less a fluke and a nonindicator of how this season will unfold than Ryan Newman's Daytona 500 win of 2008, or Kevin Harvick's in '07. Should Kenseth go on to win the '09 Cup, it would be in spite of, not because of, his Daytona 500 win. Neither Harvick nor Newman, after winning this race, won another points race in those respective seasons. Harvick did go on to win the All-Star race of '07 -- his de facto second exhibition win of that year. But at least they call the All-Star race what it is, and don't award points. A funny thing happened at the Keith Urban concert Sunday in Daytona … a stock car race broke out. Never has a Super Bowl winner failed to be crowned NFL champion. But not since Jeff Gordon in 1997 had a Daytona 500 winner won the season championship until Jimmie Johnson in 2006. And Johnson's championship wasn't so much the fluke as was his 500 win, in an aerodynamic crapshoot where it's far more important to be lucky than good. In fact, of the first 50 Daytona 500s (Sunday's was the 51st), only five winners, eight times, have gone on to win the Cup, and only three of those were not named Petty -- Johnson, Gordon, and Cale Yarborough in 1977. So the history of the premier event vis-a-vis the championship was bad enough before NASCAR started fiddling with the show, and kept on, and kept on, until … now, they might as well start sending fireworks skyward from the green flag on and keep it up all race, and have rock bands playing nonstop at the start-finish line, flag to flag. Look at Sunday night's top five finishers: Kenseth, Harvick, AJ Allmendinger, Clint Bowyer and Elliott Sadler. Will we get the '09 champion from that group? Unlikely. Is this an indication, even, of what is to come next week in the California 500? Or Las Vegas the next week? Or Atlanta the next? Again, unlikely. So where did the two overwhelming favorites to win the championship this year -- due to their strengths on other tracks -- Carl Edwards and Johnson, finish Sunday? Why, 18th and 31st, respectively. Here, it's all a crapshoot -- the luck of the draft and the moment, in the aberrant form called restrictor-plate racing, with the manipulated-for-show "new car" that is manipulated even more minutely for plate racing. This is one of only four plate races. That mechanical manipulation of close racing -- it's close because engines are too stifled for drivers to break away from each other -- is at least bearable for the other three, the summer race here and the two at Talladega, Ala. But it's not bearable for your showcase, your "Super Bowl." To Casino de Daytona they added another ham-fisted touch Sunday night. For all the lip service NASCAR gave in preseason to renewed adoration of its fans, who are supposedly so precious in this crashing economy, NASCAR gave them all a backhanded slap in the face, with a clearly unsatisfying incidence of curriculum interruptus -- that would be the medical term for "race suddenly interrupted" -- Sunday night. For all this terrible strain on fans' wallets, Daytona International Speedway claimed to have sold out the Daytona 500 by Sunday -- that's 160,000 seats, plus the infield crowd -- and then … Celebrities like Tom Cruise got more fan love than many of the drivers at Daytona. To show its appreciation to fans who likely sacrificed to come here, and to fans watching on television nationwide, NASCAR took all of 15 minutes after the red flag for rain to call the race official and cut it off, a whopping 120 miles short of the advertised distance. To be sure, Kenseth had calculated and made the right move, passing Sadler on the last lap of green with both knowing rain was imminent, and that this one could be for keeps. But that whole gaggle was up front because more serious contenders had pitted earlier, either under the previous caution or the previous green. Weather radar showed a massive front, followed by another, moving toward Daytona Beach. But the least they could have done, for their supposedly beloved fans, was wait more than 15 lousy minutes to call it. And the radar was misleading. Mostly, what fell on the track was a heavy mist. If they had waited according to established NASCAR practice -- an hour, sometimes much more -- well, by 10 p.m. they could have been running wide open. At least, then, the roulette wheel at Casino de Daytona would have been given a full and proper spin. Minutes after the race had been called, I got the first e-mail of protest from a fan, Ken Vronek of Richmond, Va., comparing this to the NFL calling the Super Bowl at the start of the fourth quarter. That had been my thought precisely, for 152 laps is 380 miles, or only three-fourths of the Daytona 500. By Monday morning, another fan, Donald Marsh of Concord, N.C., had said it better than any journalist here could have: "This race is starting to get really boring, because the best driver, or fastest car, rarely ever wins the race. The luckiest car wins." When you think about it, the 51st Daytona 500 was no less an exhibition than last year's when it went the distance, with Newman coming out of nowhere to catch the right push at the right moment to beat the man to beat, Tony Stewart. And what about '07, when NASCAR disobeyed its own rule about throwing caution flags, failing to throw a caution and freeze the field when rightful winner Mark Martin was ahead, and recognizing instead Harvick's last-second charge out of nowhere? When Dale Earnhardt finally won this race in 1998, the old swagger returned, and he forcefully predicted he was off and running toward what would have been a record eighth championship. If anybody could pull off the unlikely double, it seemed that Earnhardt -- NASCAR's most mystical and near-mythical character -- could. So many of us in the media endorsed his forecast at the time. Well, Earnhardt failed to win the championship -- indeed, failed to win another race -- that year. That ought to tell you everything you need to know about the modern-day Daytona 500. Once upon a time, when racing here was real and not a show-biz production with restrictor plates and dreamed-up cars, the Daytona 500 was at least a true contest, and a substantially better indicator of who the strongest driver of the year would be. Six times in the first 20 years, the Daytona 500 winner won the season title. Lee Petty went from winning the first one to winning the championship of 1959. Richard Petty launched four of his seven championships with wins here. And Yarborough's double in '77 was before restrictor plates. So NASCAR ought to thank its very lucky stars for Jimmie Johnson's highly unlikely double of '06. Otherwise, calling this the "Super Bowl" would be blatant, empty hype of a once-pure race, long defaced for the sake of the show. "

2/17/2009 8:52:02 AM

call today at 5 pm and you can get 5 tickets to the All star race or coca cola 600 for just 50 bux. tickets are in the turn 4 grandstand or jewel box (which is in turn 5 iirc).

http://www.lowesmotorspeedway.com/news_photos/news/543874.html

2/17/2009 11:04:41 AM

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"Look at Sunday night's top five finishers: Kenseth, Harvick, AJ Allmendinger, Clint Bowyer and Elliott Sadler. Will we get the '09 champion from that group?"

ha 2 of those drivers will not be in the chase. aj nuttslinger isnt even racing a full schedual, and sadler, well , is sadler.

dale is going to be agressive as shit this year. so look for him to tear up som equipment.
i say he wins 3 this season.

whats everyones fantasy points look like.

2/17/2009 11:58:42 AM

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"The brickyard and 600 are not "bigger" races. they never have been and never will be. Where did you come up with that?"

What are you calling bigger then? Indy can seat almost 100k more than Daytona. I would say that is a lot larger of a race. Have you been to Charlotte or any of the larger tracks? What does Charlotte seat? 160k or so? You know how amazingly large that whole tailgate scene/shops/everything is. Add 100k people to that and put it at the most famous track in the country. I would say that experience would be 'bigger' that Daytona. More hyped, no.

[Edited on February 17, 2009 at 12:15 PM. Reason : df]

2/17/2009 12:11:52 PM

http://sports.yahoo.com/nascar/news;_ylt=AnT42mdAtXMgCOntXDZzt4Lov7YF?slug=dw-daytona021509&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

this fucking article pisses me off.

like its fucking juniors fault he hasnt won a championship. tony jr has got to be the shittiest fucking crew cheif in the world and there is no blame on him.

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"What are you calling bigger then? Indy can seat almost 100k more than Daytona"

after last yeah i dont see there being half as many people

[Edited on February 17, 2009 at 12:21 PM. Reason : i dont like manditory cautions . drop good year and pring in hoosier]

2/17/2009 12:20:06 PM

Jr. has not won a title because he is not good enough. Matt Kenseth, Tony Stewert, Kurt Bush, Jeff Gordon, Mark Martin, Carl Edwards, Greg Biffle, Jimmie Johnson, Kyle Bush, and Brian Vickers are all, without a doubt, better drivers. I'm sure there are more who are better but those are the evident ones.

2/17/2009 12:24:44 PM

Bigger does not = more seats, he was talking about fame. [On top of that, up until Indy was added in 94, Daytona did seat the most]. You want a big tailgate party, go to Bristol, .5 mile track with 1/5 the space of Indy or Daytona that holds 160k, this equals 800k at Indy or Daytona when you do the math.

And trust me I have been to about 150 Winston cup events, and probably to over 300 events since the 80's.I can tell you about each track if you like. Daytona by the way has a higher seating capacity than charlotte. Indy is the most overrated track I have ever been to. The seats on the inside plus the golf course totally block your view of the race. Plus the race is usually pretty boring (gas). I went there in 1997. If you would like, I can start posting pictures of me at the race as a child, and tell everyone stories. I have pictures of me getting autographs as well.

2/17/2009 12:31:20 PM

I would like that. Little vonjordon getting DW's autograph.

2/17/2009 12:33:15 PM

with his last season at DEI the mother fucker dnfed like 6 races with blown motors and shitty pit strategy, he was 11th going into the chase and spun the car out twice in one race.

then last year at the glen tony said hey lets pit(while he was 3rd) and he was the only one who pitted that lap, knowing there was going to be a full course caution, because of a wreck. and i think he ended up about 30th or so that race.

put Knuas up on jrs box for 3 or 4 races, then get back to me. this isnt the busch series anymore tony. the car has changed, and you need to take notes.

2/17/2009 12:34:06 PM

Jr will never will a championship driving like he did sunday. tony jr often makes bone head mistakes as well like last year at the road course in staying out way too long.

[Edited on February 17, 2009 at 12:37 PM. Reason : ^beat me by 2 mins]

2/17/2009 12:36:09 PM

i have DW, my dad took a picture of him flipping and then had him sign the pic in the mid 90s!



Wrote Nick on my arm to prove it is me

In order

Bill Elliott, bill Elliott, DW, Richard Petty, Rusty Wallace, Mark Martin, Jeff faggot, Jeff faggot, Bill Elliott, mark martin, mark martin, Dale Jarret, Richard petty

The Little car is Elliott




All Dale Sr.



A whole bunch of other driver, bodines, labontes, etc.

Id have to write down my whole collection.

2/17/2009 12:44:01 PM

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"Jr will never will a championship driving like he did sunday"

not being a smart ass, but hell kyle almost did, he won 8 races driving like that.

if he stops rim riding the top of the track, and gets a good set up for a few tracks, he will make the chase. the only reason he won last year is cause tony didnt have anyother choices to make with 2 laps to go. there was nothing but oh well lets see what happens. and it almost cost him the race

2/17/2009 12:48:56 PM

tony and jr are buds though

2/17/2009 12:50:16 PM

^true

let me get on a 1:24th rusty car

i got 230 points this weekend, 53rd %tile

[Edited on February 17, 2009 at 12:58 PM. Reason : i think i did rather well]

2/17/2009 12:51:32 PM

My cars are 1:64

well most of them

i have some pictures of rusty that I had him sign that i took

2/17/2009 12:58:41 PM

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"I think the real reason people are upset is because the big wreck took out Busch"

LOL

most people were happy to see him get wrecked. go to a race and wear a kyle busch shirt and see how many friends you can make.

2/17/2009 5:59:49 PM

I wasn't talking about fan support. He had the best car Sunday, had he won a rain shortened race it wouldn't have been a big deal.

2/17/2009 6:40:08 PM

no one has ever won the 500 when leading at the halfway point. stewart would have won im sure of

2/17/2009 7:12:04 PM

^^but you said that's why they're upset, an it's not. people are upset because the 500 is glorified as some amazing wonderful thing and it rarely gets rained out. it's a big race and people can't accept that it didn't go the full distance, but like always

THAT'S RACIN'

2/17/2009 8:39:13 PM

They act like this is something new


these are basically the new yankee fans that have only watched NASCAR the last fucking 5 years. They bitch and the rules change. It has really become a joke.

2/18/2009 7:58:30 AM

lol i hate gordon as much as the next guy, but i'm not dumb enough to believe the evernham gay affair rumor. it was some model.

2/18/2009 8:17:28 AM

but he did, there are some books out that point to this

2/18/2009 8:58:00 AM

I really want to go to Eldora this year. A buddy of mine, who owns Thunder Valley in PA, says it's like dirt track woodstock.

2/18/2009 9:03:14 AM

^ hell yeha id love to see that shit

2/18/2009 1:45:33 PM

So I have the first pick in our pool this week, who do I go with?

2/18/2009 1:55:00 PM

i hate to say it but kyle busch is stong at those flat fuckers

also go with carl edwards

2/18/2009 2:07:26 PM

We have 15 people and the pick order is determined by how you finished the week before but in reverse. I had Kyle Busch last week which is why I have the first pick this week. I am tempted to pick him again. It is between him, Edwards, and Johnson.

2/18/2009 2:18:17 PM

also look for the roush cars this weekend. ford has won the race 4 years in a row

2/18/2009 5:35:40 PM

my fantasy team killed thanks to the 8th place finish of michael waltrip

now i need to drop him until talladega

2/18/2009 6:50:03 PM

i dont know why your sad about that. ive never thought of him as a good racer. just a comidian and good drafter

2/18/2009 7:33:04 PM

i hate you have to have your fantasy picks in before qualifying

i got some roush drivers in a good place though

2/20/2009 12:11:19 AM

haha there's a fox on the track during busch qualifying

2/21/2009 12:48:03 PM

iknew another reason i didnt like Mayfield

Cup crew member violates substance abuse policy

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"DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- Paul Chodora, a licensed crew member in the Sprint Cup Series for Mayfield Motorsports' No. 41 team, has been indefinitely suspended from NASCAR for violating the sanctioning body's substance abuse policy. On Feb. 11, Chodora was found to have violated Sections 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing) and 7-5 (violation of the NASCAR substance abuse policy) of the 2009 Sprint Cup Series rule book. "Mayfield Motorsports respects the decision by NASCAR to indefinitely suspend Paul Chodora," team owner and driver Jeremy Mayfield said in a statement. "We as an organization appreciate NASCAR's drug testing policies and policing efforts as it makes the sport stronger overall. If Paul doesn't comply with NASCAR's reinstatement process, then he will no longer be an employee of Mayfield Motorsports." In September, NASCAR announced an updated drug policy, which includes random testing. AEGIS Sciences Corporation helped design and implement NASCAR's substance-abuse policy. A computer-generated list was scheduled to be used at "most if not all" weekends to test "from 12 to 14 people," according to Steve O'Donnell, NASCAR vice president of racing operations. O'Donnell said in a typical weekend, an average of two drivers per series would be tested with the balance coming from the ranks of over-the-wall crewmen and officials. "

rat bastard

2/21/2009 9:16:07 PM

629 fantasy points last wk. 90.9% on espn

this week I got

Edwards, Stewart, Martin, Kenseth, Allmendinger

last wk I rode Gordon, Earnhardt, Waltrip, Stewart, Martin

2/21/2009 11:24:23 PM

how about rowdy leading 238 of 250 laps and getting 2 wins. damn

2/22/2009 10:58:27 AM

^^^so you don't like Mayfield because a member of his team, a team he put together less than 4 weeks ago, failed a drug test?


I mean i'm sure putting together a crew, finding a sponser, and building a car to qualify for the daytona 500 in less than a month some mistakes are bound to be made. but i wouldnt put it on mayfield

2/22/2009 1:35:30 PM

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"let me get on a 1:24th rusty car"

2/22/2009 1:47:03 PM

That does sound a little ~ doesnt it.

2/22/2009 6:08:06 PM

here we go again

2/22/2009 6:41:18 PM

if busch can run in the rain, damnit the cup series should too

2/22/2009 6:52:27 PM

they will at road courses

2/22/2009 6:59:43 PM

.

2/22/2009 8:46:31 PM

oh hell yeah. the #17 is a force so far this year. to bad all that matters though at this point is the pay check.

2/22/2009 10:48:44 PM

racking up some early bonus pts for the chase as well

2/22/2009 10:57:36 PM

i cant believe i picked ragan over kenseth

2/23/2009 12:32:12 AM

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"if busch can run in the rain, damnit the cup series should too"

2/23/2009 8:34:08 AM

:carlface:

2/23/2009 1:42:18 PM

what if you couldnt fish in the rain?

2/23/2009 1:42:53 PM

fishing in the rain doesn't endanger lives

[Edited on February 23, 2009 at 1:46 PM. Reason : and the cup series will race road courses in the rain]

2/23/2009 1:45:56 PM

the fishes lives!!!!!

2/23/2009 2:16:00 PM