Third ep is pretty good. They're getting better and better.

3/2/2009 2:46:16 AM

spoiler: Alpha will be played by James Marsters

3/2/2009 8:04:13 AM

That's a joke, right? Cause I think that FBI agent dude that is looking for the Dollhouse is Alpha and doesn't know it. And his stalker neighbor chick is his handler or something.

3/2/2009 8:15:29 AM

spoiler?



Alan Tudyk FTW

[Edited on March 2, 2009 at 9:49 AM. Reason : ]

3/2/2009 9:48:53 AM

I thought Tudyk was still a rumor? I heard someone else from a previous Whedon show was going to show up later on, but can't remember who now...

Either way, I'm digging this show. They're growing exponentially awesomer... as I predicted and as is Whedon's pattern.

^^ Nah, not only do I think it's too predictable that he's Alpha, but she's not his handler. Or if she is, she's not a professional. We haven't seen anything going on with her except that she wants to get up on him No weird sly facial expressions or anything to imply there's something going on there. Whedon doesn't tend to do stuff like that - plus, all the major characters turning out to be actives would be stupid... that's BSG's thing

[Edited on March 2, 2009 at 10:54 AM. Reason : .]

3/2/2009 10:52:50 AM

double spoiler: i'm just making shit up

3/2/2009 3:50:57 PM

I want to know what's in Echo's head! But the Handler/Active relationship is really similar to the Watcher/Slayer relationship. I want to see how it plays out and how it's different.

3/2/2009 7:50:32 PM

this shit is still on tv?

3/2/2009 9:56:08 PM

the themesong annoys me

3/3/2009 8:06:31 AM

it's alright. I'll keep watching it because I'm retarded.

Firefly was so much better it hurts

3/3/2009 8:24:14 PM

Quote :

"I'll keep watching it because I'm retarded."

3/3/2009 8:33:30 PM

Quote :

"Firefly was so much better it hurts"

3/3/2009 9:49:47 PM

Quote :

"That happens around episode six—six through 13 are just extraordinary. I love one, two, three, four, and five, but Joss’ first script that he did after the pilot is number six, which is called “Man On The Street,” and it is just unbelievable. From that point on, the world unfolds in Joss’ way, with Joss’ speed, and it’s really remarkable."

http://www.avclub.com/articles/eliza-dushku,24418/

3/4/2009 3:42:39 PM

Quote :

"Firefly was so much better it hurts."

But that can be said about everything else Whedon's ever done.

3/4/2009 11:10:00 PM

nope.
Maybe FireFly could have been the best thing he did. The first 13 episodes showed promise, for sure, and had it taken the 6-season course he wanted, it probably would have been awesome. But as it stands, Firefly is the 3rd best thing he's done, at best.

3/4/2009 11:14:56 PM

whedon's accomplishments in order of greatness

1. angel
2. buffy
3. firefly
4. buffy (film version)
5. comic books
6. rank shit
7. this show

[Edited on March 5, 2009 at 4:09 AM. Reason : serenity comes before firefly]

3/5/2009 4:07:55 AM

best one so far. except for the part where they just waltzed out of the vault. that was a cop-out.

I'm still not really clear on what the Actives know and don't know when they're activated.... and what their relationship is with their Handlers. I guess they're programmed to trust the handler, and also programmed to come back to the Dollhouse to get their "treatment", no questions asked?
Also not always clear on who knows and who doesn't know she is an Active. Like, which of the guys she was robbing the place with knew who she was, and if none of them did know, who hired her then

[Edited on March 6, 2009 at 10:49 PM. Reason : .]

3/6/2009 10:36:54 PM

haven't watched last night's yet, but for those who have seen it - is it "the one where it finally gets good", as billed?

3/21/2009 7:35:56 AM

yep

[Edited on March 21, 2009 at 9:04 AM. Reason : at the very least i finally get an advancing plot]

3/21/2009 9:04:04 AM

i thought this week's was pretty good...plot advancement FTW

3/21/2009 9:59:18 AM

i havent seen this show yet, but i love everything whedon has done prior.
i guess i'll check it out now


oh, eliza dushku is hot

3/21/2009 5:54:50 PM

yep, good stuff. It demonstrates how much more intriguing the show is when it focuses on plot and story, instead of just doing week-to-week "Echo is ___ this week" episodes.

I got a bit confused at one part though, then I read the write-up on TV Squad and got even more confused.
When Echo was fighting Ballard out in the alley and it looked like she broke character for a second and did the "don't worry, we have a man on the inside" speech, wtf was she talking about. Was she supposed to say that? Was that "Echo" saying that, or whoever she was imprinted with?


and yeah, i didn't see the neighbor as being a sleeper agent

[Edited on March 22, 2009 at 9:39 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2009 9:37:55 PM

that was a message the inside man/woman slipped into Echo's imprint

PAY BETTER ATTENTION

i'm curious what's gonna happen when neighbor-girl notices she has a message on her machine and plays it back

3/22/2009 10:21:28 PM

^haha I was thinking that about the neighbor's machine too.

The past episode with the cult and this one definitely have me wanting to know more about the shit that's gonna go down.

3/22/2009 10:29:38 PM

^^ oh, right.....
reading TWW and watching Dollhouse don't mix

3/22/2009 10:32:02 PM

ahhh i love this show and this past episodes just makes me feel all

The sleeper agent was a good twist and can't wait to see this weeks when she starts to become aware during testing.

3/23/2009 3:24:24 PM

I'm digging the show, Whedon has done it again, and I'm intrigued about what he'll do next.

My only worry is if too many other people turn out to be sleeper actives. I don't like the neighbor being one. What next, Ballard is an active and was programmed by Alpha?

Overall, though, the show is great and this week's ep is proof.

3/23/2009 3:30:27 PM

This show has really stepped up recently. For some reason, I'm finding this a trend with the fox shows. They start off slow, but then they start to get good once the plot begins to develop. I felt the same about Fringe, and now it's one of my favs.

3/23/2009 3:59:09 PM

yeah, I was telling my wife yesterday how it will get really old really quick if there are several sleeper actives. fortunately I think Whedon can weave a story well enough without going to that trick too often

3/23/2009 11:15:07 PM

Okay, totally missed this series, any way to catch up?

3/25/2009 6:50:10 PM

nope, they burned the original negatives of each show right after they aired it

3/25/2009 7:03:09 PM

the internets, people....
http://www.hulu.com/dollhouse

episode 1 is expired, but 2-6 are still up. You can skip ep 1 without missing too much that you won't pick up on the other episodes.

all episodes are here
http://www.fox.com/fod/play.php?sh=dollhouse

3/25/2009 8:27:31 PM

another good one.


The Dollhouse technology seems to be rife with errors - something else goes wrong with them every week, but they still seem to have complete confidence in Topher, no matter how many things he screws up.... Seems to me they should look into bringing on another technician!

3/27/2009 11:10:43 PM

I think the point is he's the best, even though it has so many problems.

And yes, this episode was great, and this show rocks. Suspicions confirmed.

3/30/2009 5:03:09 PM

Next week looks awesome

I'll be looking forward to it allll week

3/31/2009 12:52:28 PM

The last ep was bangin'. The story is really starting to move along and I LOVE it

3/31/2009 4:20:44 PM

Good episode.

It was nice to be able to see why some of them turned to the dollhouse to begin with. I still would like to know why Echo/Caroline turned herself over to them. The whole Victor-Sierra relationship was cute with him waiting for her and then wanting to help her the whole time.

4/4/2009 11:19:03 AM

^ that was explained in the last episode. She was a college kid activist type who tried to bust into a facility of the parent company that funds the dollhouse. She and her boyfriend were caught. the boyfriend was shot, and she was captured.

4/5/2009 8:36:22 AM

^oh yeah. I just thought it was something bigger than that.

4/6/2009 10:54:25 AM

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" The Dollhouse technology seems to be rife with errors - something else goes wrong with them every week, but they still seem to have complete confidence in Topher, no matter how many things he screws up.... Seems to me they should look into bringing on another technician!"

I meant to comment on this before, but they way they present the technology and topher, they act as if the created it all, and is the sole mastermind behind it.

But if this is one of 20 other dollhouses, I'd imagine there would be 20 other "tophers" and there would be some level of protocol and consistency in how the technology is managed, developed, updated, etc. (I guess that could be the Rossum corp.). Ultimately, you'd think there would be someone higher up the technical chain that oversees the technical side of things.

4/6/2009 1:46:31 PM

Victor is the only one of the main Actives who is a good actor.....
November is really no good at all

4/6/2009 2:00:33 PM

Haven't watched this yet, but I love the Hulu/Dollhouse commercial

4/6/2009 10:29:11 PM

This is getting surprisingly better with each episode.

4/8/2009 12:03:58 AM

show is growing on me - really getting much better

4/9/2009 12:45:34 PM

too bad it's probably cancelled. Fuckin' fox.

Quote :

"Horrendous news. Felicia Day just Twittered that the season finale of Dollhouse won't air. This episode not only features Day, but Whedonverse MVP Alan Tudyk in a key role. Spoilers below. "

UPDATE

Quote :

"The Hollywood Reporter says that Fox is insisting that Dollhouse is not canceled after all. They just don't feel like airing the season finale. From Fox's standpoint, the network ordered 13 episodes of the show, and Joss shot two pilots. So if you count both pilots as episodes, then the 12 aired episodes complete Fox's order. Apparently, the final episode which will air, "Omega," represents Joss' original vision for the end of the season, so we won't feel a lack of closure. But the actual unaired season finale, "Epitaph One," is directed by Joss himself and is his actual final statement. Worst of all, it's not actually certain that the episode will appear on DVD or elsewhere - nothing's decided yet, and Fox may decide not to pay for post-production on the episode. Whedon's drhorrible Twitter account said: It's true. Dollhouse ep 13 isn't going to air. This makes @feliciaday sad. How do you feel? Why don't share those feelings with FOX?"

http://io9.com/5205648/you-wont-get-your-alan-tudykfelicia-day-fix-on-dollhouse

4/9/2009 4:43:03 PM

fuckin fox

4/9/2009 5:04:43 PM

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"UPDATE, 3:38 p.m.: Spoiler alert! Just snagged ya'll some exclusive new info on "Epitaph One." A source whispers to me that "Epitaph One" comes from the writerly brains of Joss Whedon, Jed Whedon and Maurissa Tancharoen. It's a totally non-finale-ish stand-alone episode, and—here's the crazy part—it's apparently set in the future, after the apocalypse, amidst total anarchy. And yes, I am describing an episode of Dollhouse, not a scene from Terminator. No word yet on where, when or how we might be able to see it if not on Fox, but just off the top of my head, Hulu, DVD/Blu-Ray and/or a special Comic-Con screening all come to mind. What sounds good to you? Fox will not be airing the "13th episode" of Dollhouse, as tweeted by @drhorrible and @feliciaday. However, there appears to be some debate about what qualifies as a 13th episode and what qualifies as a season finale. Here's what we've sorted out about the end of Dollhouse... Brace yourself, guys, because there's going to be math in this story. Fox the television network ordered 13 episodes of Dollhouse. As everybody knows, they scrapped the original pilot, "Echo." So that is 13 less one, which brings us down to 12. The 12th and final episode that Fox the television network ordered and paid for and will air is called "Omega" and was written and directed by Tim Minear (who has told us he "can't wait" for us to see it). Focused on the Alpha storyline, sources say that "Omega" apparently "closes some doors and opens other ones" and was always intended to be and to effectively serve as the season-one finale. ("Omega" logline, if you're into that kind of thing: "Alpha's reign of terror continues as his obsession with Echo endangers Caroline's survival. Ballard must make a life-changing decision, and one Doll is permanently deactivated while another's shocking past is revealed.")"

[quote]

http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/watch_with_kristin/b117929_dollhouse_heres_deal_on_season_finale.html

4/9/2009 7:08:06 PM

A little hope?

http://sepinwall.blogspot.com/2009/04/dollhouse-13th14th-episode-in-limbo.html

Quote :

"Fox network won't decide the fate of "Dollhouse" until Upfront week, near the end of May, and the decision not to air "Epitaph One" has nothing whatsoever to do with renewal."

4/9/2009 9:09:45 PM

I don't believe them for a second. IMO, if you decide not to finish or air an episode of a show, you're going to cancel it almost every time. It follows the fox pattern pretty well, and whedon is again getting screwed by them. He shoulda known better.

4/10/2009 1:05:27 PM

What FOX says and does are always different. They say it's not cancelled, but wait until when next fall when mysteriously "problems" arise and they decide not to renew whatever contract, then the show gets scrapped completely.

I hate investing time with FOX shows. I always let myself get sucked in only to be screwed wanting more from a show later.

4/10/2009 1:10:50 PM