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"I think it would be cool if regular responsible people could get registered as like 'citizen's police', carry a gun around all day, and get like a beeper message if a call came up near them. "

During the 1800's these were called lynch mobs

3/18/2009 8:23:19 AM

but they didn't have cell phones/beepers then

3/18/2009 9:10:47 AM

In most "abusive cop" threads that pop up on the TWW I end up on the cop's side, but this guy should be lynched.

3/18/2009 8:51:14 PM

bttt for other murdering cop thread.

4/9/2009 6:10:07 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4926061/

what about this guy

4/9/2009 10:34:11 PM

police answering machine


oh yea. those two punches to the head dont look good at all. I try not to bring people down by the hair either. this aint the wwe.

[Edited on April 12, 2009 at 7:07 AM. Reason : .]

4/12/2009 6:58:39 AM

This is a Maaaaan's World. This is a Maaaan's World.

4/12/2009 9:58:42 AM

The rotten cops are coming out of the woodwork!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAHMsCO3Diw

http://www.goerie.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090419/OPINION01/304199982/-1/OPINION

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"By now, you know about the video and its exposure on YouTube. Based on what was recorded by a video camera at a bar in Girard, now-suspended Erie Patrolman James Cousins II entertained a small group of fellow drinkers by describing the humor he found at a murder scene and in another police investigation. The murder victim, Rondale Jennings Sr., 31, died of a gunshot to the head outside the Bullpen tavern, 923 Hess Ave., on March 28. Cousins, a patrolman since 2004, apparently found it hysterically funny that the victim's body was twitching when Cousins arrived at the scene. He found it endlessly amusing to mock the reaction of Jennings' grieving mother, Yvette Jennings. He displayed a cavalier attitude toward the victim with this comment: "We're looking at it like, 'One less drug dealer to deal with. Cool.'" There have been no published reports linking the victim to drugs."

Oh, and this one gets better.

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"In contrast, Franklin doesn't seem to understand that one of his officers has not only hurt his own reputation but heightened the perception -- fair or unfair -- that the Erie police swagger into inner-city neighborhoods carrying stereotypes about victims. Franklin suspended Cousins with pay, pending an investigation into the incident. But instead of concentrating on the words, actions and attitudes of Cousins, Internal Affairs set out to nail the person who photographed and posted the video. Pursuing that course of action, then defending it, is astounding in its wrongheadedness. As reported by Ed Palattella, Kara Murphy and Lisa Thompson in our Friday edition, Internal-affairs Inspector James DeDionisio -- with Cousins at his side -- went to Girard to try to find the person who shot the video. The officers implied to relatives of the man who shot the video that he had violated federal wiretap laws. Erie police have also tried, unsuccessfully, to get the video pulled from YouTube. "He didn't know he was being audio-taped. He's obviously in a compromised situation. He's off-duty in a bar drinking; he doesn't expect to be a star of a video," Franklin said to justify the attempt to shut down the video. "People look at this and say, 'Geez, is this what the Erie cops are like?'""

mmm huh

So... the message we get from this story, and also the continuous steam of events of police wrong doing:

Police, and their departments, always defend their own and really don't care about the public. They'd rather cover things up, destroy evidence, and pull the veil on the public than actually deal with what went wrong and fixing it. Chauvinist, racist, and generally asshole cops are a regular thing, which is why the cop in this incident shouldn't be severely punished.

It's not just that "bad cop" who gives them all a bad image. It's the entire system that defends them. The issue is fascism, which appears to be what the police system wants. Rights don't matter as long as people stay in line.

Well, that's just the impression that this gives.

4/19/2009 11:59:20 AM

Just to play devils advocate, perhaps dark humor and cynicism is a coping method used by most people in the Emergency response field in order to maintain their own sanity. You can only see and deal with so much gruesome and depressing stuff before it takes its toll emotionally. he was in a bar, let his gaurd down, and was joking but also venting in a therapeutic way. Just my $0.02 yes it is insensitive, but a person only has so much emotional comfort to share, so you tend to become somewhat cold and cynical after seeing and dealing with so much. laughing about death is a pretty time tested coping mechanism, soldiers in combat are the same way, ask any combat vet. Im not saying its right or wrong, just human nature and psychology.

flame away on how i am a pig and only sticking up for him cause he is a cop. Then think to yourself, it he was a fireman laughing about a gruesome accident he just saw, would you be arguing that the fire dept is a bunch of arrogant pricks who cover up for each other. maybe my point about the coping method may make more sense. and if you think to say firemen dont talk like that about stuff.....talk to some firemen for about 15 minutes. Im just trying to open a different direction of debate here and maybe another view for some.





[Edited on April 19, 2009 at 4:20 PM. Reason : .]

4/19/2009 4:07:56 PM

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"Chauvinist, racist, and generally asshole cops are a regular thing"

Because the three examples in this thread are really representative of the nearly half million police officers in the U.S.

And also, why does everyone fly off the hinges when they see an officer was suspended with pay during an investigation or even shooting for that matter? Innocent until proven guilty maybe?!?!?

4/19/2009 4:17:17 PM

did his actions affect the investigation or prosecution in any way? that's the most important part here.

as cruel as it is, it's not illegal to be an asshole, as long as it doesn't interfere with doing your job.....

4/19/2009 4:22:31 PM

yeah... I'll admit my last post was sensationalist.

However, I consider that attitude meaningful since it's really in line with a large amount of the media and the general public. Are cops just the profession we love to hate? I won't deny that plays a role. The above example is interesting. If I think of a doctor getting drinks and making fun of some patient, obviously I would consider it a clear violation of professional ethics, but it wouldn't trigger the same response as this cop did.

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"Just to play devils advocate, perhaps dark humor and cynicism is a coping method used by most people in the Emergency response field in order to maintain their own sanity. You can only see and deal with so much gruesome and depressing stuff before it takes its toll emotionally. he was in a bar, let his gaurd down, and was joking but also venting in a therapeutic way. Just my $0.02 yes it is insensitive, but a person only has so much emotional comfort to share, so you tend to become somewhat cold and cynical after seeing and dealing with so much. laughing about death is a pretty time tested coping mechanism, soldiers in combat are the same way, ask any combat vet. Im not saying its right or wrong, just human nature and psychology."

I image you'll disagree with the responsibilities of police expressed in this video:

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2009/04/19/erie.youtube.police.cnn

Really, there's no way I can disagree with your opinion that he's venting by saying insensitive stuff. But I think we can both agree that it should be done in a private setting. Also, IMO this is probably connected to the nature of the neighborhood he's operating in. The worse the place is, the more junk police are going to have to cope with emotionally. It doesn't help that the lowest quality officers are probably going to wind up in the most dangerous areas - leading to people like this guy.

In truth, I don't really think that this instance should disqualify him from being a cop. Obviously, it should require a department investigation to see if he is doing his job or not - the video tells us little about that. But still, if he's well known in the community it might not be best for him to go back to work walking the same streets. Maybe they could transfer him or something, I don't know. Nonetheless, keeping the trust of the citizens they protect is a part (however small) of a police officer's job.

4/19/2009 6:31:14 PM

I agree it should be done in a more private setting, I agree he was being unprofessional, but more than likely he had a few (hell i watched the video again and it seems obvious he is a bit plastered), let his guard down and was just venting and joking.

[Edited on April 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM. Reason : .]

4/20/2009 10:49:42 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/05/20/alabama.police.beating/index.html

5/22/2009 8:30:06 AM

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"Stuff like is relatively rare"

Um, not really son.

Not really.

5/22/2009 2:33:16 PM

Uh-oh.

Off-Duty NYPD Cop Fatally Shot by Fellow Office

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"The shooter was white and Edwards was black, a fact that could raise questions about police use of deadly force in a minority community. And in recent years there have been several cases of off-duty policemen in the New York City area being shot and killed by other officers."

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/05/29/us/AP-US-Cop-Shoots-Cop.html

NB: I didn't see another active police-related thread, so I used this one.

5/29/2009 11:11:19 AM

Why whenever a white person shoots a black person the media and NACCP always fire up a shit storm assuming it had racial motives

5/29/2009 8:05:03 PM

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"In what looks to be a case of police brutality, a 72-year-old great-grandmother was tasered after apparently refusing to sign a ticket during a traffic stop. Police insist that they were doing everything by the book, but using a taser on a senior citizen at a traffic stop strikes one as excessive use of force."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/09/police-taser-great-grandm_n_213218.html

so, seriously - why are cops so afraid of getting their hands dirty? Is it so damned hard to put a 72 y/o woman up against the car and put her in cuffs, if she needs to be restrained? Don't want to touch her, so just zap the shit out of her with electricity instead?

6/12/2009 3:40:37 PM

Oh, how I loathe most cops.

6/12/2009 4:40:02 PM

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"and what's especially absurd is that this is a 15 YEAR OLD GIRL. what kind of man hits a 15 year old girl????? cop or no cop, he's definitely a poor excuse for a man. what a bastard, i hope he gets fired and put in jail."

That is the problem with the youth in this country...they don't get their ass beat enough to know whats right and wrong. But who can blame them when their parents are just as bad if not worse.

Maybe her parents should join in on the beating.

[Edited on June 12, 2009 at 4:43 PM. Reason : .]

6/12/2009 4:42:49 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/31376393#31376393

OMFG! Just look at this crazy cop!

That guy is an example of what gives cops a bad name.

6/16/2009 12:27:48 AM

^^ i'm all for parents spanking their kids...which is quite different from a grown ass cop beating a young girl. what a pussy that cop is, seriously.

6/16/2009 9:38:42 AM

^^ good god......
that looks like a good-old-boy cop who wasn't too happy when he pulled up beside a black guy driving an ambulance. who the fuck pulls over an ambulance for "not yielding to an emergency vehicle"? jesus.....

that's one case where I could get behind some vigilante justice where the crowd that was forming would jump the cop and subdue him while the ambulance gets away.

6/16/2009 9:57:57 AM

^ Yep. And just think if you had a loved one in the ambulance like those people did.

I'd go to jail later--that cop could fuck off. Right then, my loved one would be getting to the hospital--and if that cop had any sense, he'd have been leading the way for them.

6/16/2009 10:01:55 AM

I see nothing wrong in that video.

6/16/2009 10:28:39 AM

^ Yeah, we want cops to be pulling over ambulances transporting patients to the hospital because their feelings were hurt. Instead of. . .I don't know. . .busting crackheads and such?

6/16/2009 10:47:52 AM

The ambulance didn't have it's lights on so it was treated just like any other vehicle. EMT homeboy took offense and got up in the cops face, which is always a bad idea. Of course, the cops looked like assholes, so I would say that both were at fault.

But really, all this noise about a little scuffle that was barely a scuffle at all? Why is this on the front page of some news outlets?

6/16/2009 11:10:53 AM

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"Why is this on the front page of some news outlets?"

Slow news day?

Markets didn't implode? Check

No massive deaths in Iraq/Afg? Check

No news on the automaker or bank fronts? Check

LETS TALK ABOUT SOME OLE BULLSHIT THEN, ANYTHING TO KEEP US FROM INVESTIGATING ANYTHING

[Edited on June 16, 2009 at 11:20 AM. Reason : .]

6/16/2009 11:20:13 AM

Quote :

"OMFG! Just look at this crazy cop! "

holy fucking shit that has to be one of the craziest videos i've seen. What was even the reasoning behind pulling the ambulence in the first place?
I was hoping that the crowd of folks that gathered would have leveled the pig so taht the ambulence could go back to its business.

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"The ambulance didn't have it's lights on so it was treated just like any other vehicle"

I was under the impression that ambulences with patients in transit did not always have to have their lights on if the situation was not a medical
emergency.

6/16/2009 12:49:10 PM

what as ass

6/16/2009 1:25:00 PM

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"I was under the impression that ambulences with patients in transit did not always have to have their lights on if the situation was not a medical emergency."

Not only do they not need to, sometimes they aren't supposed to (heart conditions and such)

This cop is just another pig piece of shit

6/16/2009 1:51:10 PM

the cop said something about "don't give me hand gestures" or something to the driver. Must have been, the cop pulled up beside the ambulance or something to see what was going on, and the driver must have gestured to the back, like "i got someone back there", or even "piss off, we're going to the hospital" or something. Who knows, but whatever gesture he gave the cop probably still shouldn't justify pulling him over with a patient in the back

6/16/2009 2:00:12 PM

Cop said he thought he saw the guy flick him off. Just a case of road rage. Only difference is that one of drivers has a badge and the other driver is transporting a patient.

6/16/2009 2:39:40 PM

i ran across this article by complete coincidence (wasn't looking for more info on the EMT thing), but it doesn't really shed much light on what the hell really happened
http://www.ktul.com/news/stories/0509/626636.html

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"Maurice White, Jr. is a critical care paramedic with the Creek Nation EMS. He was nearly arrested after the confrontation, which was captured by the cell phone of Kenyada Davis. Paul Franks was the driver of the ambulance, which was transporting a patient to a hospital in Prague. White says he saw the trooper approaching from behind at a high rate of speed with lights activated, but he did not hear a siren. He says Franks had a car in front of him that his attention was focused on and hadn't seen the trooper before he was within a few feet of the ambulance. "I called out to my partner and told him to pull to the side because there was a State Trooper behind us," White says. White says as the trooper passed them, he made radio contact, telling Franks "you should consider checking your rearview mirrors". White says a few blocks after this incident, another trooper entered the road at a high rate of speed, cutting in front of a car driven by a family member of the patient. White says he then saw another trooper approaching from the rear. "As my partner was pulling onto the shoulder, the cruiser came alongside our unit and gestured for my driver to pull over," White says. "When the officer came to a complete stop behind the ambulance, I noticed a woman in the front seat. Based on the officer's erratic driving behavior, I thought that the woman in the front seat of the cruiser was in need of immediate medical attention; hence I exited the rear of the ambulance in order to assess the situation." White says the officer was in a rage when he approached them and yelled "get your a-- back here! I am giving you a ticket for failure to yield." White says he told the trooper they had a patient in the ambulance and that they were on their way to the hospital. "He ignored my statement, became even more belligerent, and demanded my partner come to his patrol car so he could write him a ticket," White says. "I calmly told the officer that we were transporting a patient and we could continue this at the hospital." White says the trooper then approached him and shouted "you are under arrest for obstructing a police officer" and grabbed his arm to handcuff him. A brief struggle followed, at which point the trooper grabbed White by the throat. The cell phone captured this incident on video. White says the trooper later told him they could continue on to the hospital, but that he would be under arrest once they got there. White was never arrested, but says troopers told him he should be prepared to turn himself in if a warrant was issued. "

it includes the cell phone video of the person you can see in the cop-camera

6/16/2009 4:09:44 PM

i read that yesterday. i'd like to see that video

6/16/2009 4:10:43 PM

Quote :

"another trooper entered the road at a high rate of speed, cutting in front of a car driven by a family member of the patient. White says he then saw another trooper approaching from the rear. "As my partner was pulling onto the shoulder, the cruiser came alongside our unit and gestured for my driver to pull over," White says. "When the officer came to a complete stop behind the ambulance"

So there was an emergency that required the cops to respond at a high rate of speed, But one had time to pull an ambulance and harass the paramedics? Amazing...

6/16/2009 4:24:11 PM

^

6/18/2009 7:34:53 PM

Cell phone video of the trooper-EMT incident:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KluItc365hU

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"it includes the cell phone video of the person you can see in the cop-camera"

Just noticed the last sentence from your post above, agentlion--sorry. I'll leave the YouTube link up, though--somebody ought to embed it.

I guess everybody knows that all "charges" were dropped against the EMT. I don't care what anybody says, that was assault under the color of authority by the trooper, IMO.

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 9:39 PM. Reason : . ]

6/18/2009 9:30:21 PM

6/18/2009 9:55:47 PM

Just searched all the message boards for "RPD" or "Police". Hilarious to see all the anti-police stuff out there . Has the band wagon left yet am I too late? lol. I espically like all the mini lawers out there that think what they're saying makes sense. Priceless.

woot 1st post on this thing.

6/22/2009 3:57:42 AM