I hope the bitch is just trolling. Otherwise, I kinda feel sorry for her.

3/20/2009 2:01:30 PM

good for you. should i start the slow clap now?

clap


clap


clap

3/20/2009 2:04:22 PM

If you want. But I think slow clapping is petty, and shows your true character. Therefore, I will never associate with you because of it. It makes you a poor excuse for a human.

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 2:06 PM. Reason : 23]

3/20/2009 2:06:22 PM

this is a classic example of customer versus employee disagreement

but as always, the customer is always right

3/20/2009 2:07:35 PM

^^good.

i wasn't planning on ever associating with you anyway

so i win

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 2:08 PM. Reason : oh yea, that didn't really prove a point. you can try again if you want though!]

^ ohhhh i think i have some stories that make the customer not so right involving shit and vomit. not at a grocery store. this was at a bar. but there are stupid people everywhere. if you are stupid and a customer are you still right? this is a very good question. someone answer it for me!

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 2:09 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2009 2:07:51 PM

you know what they say about winning internet arguments.

3/20/2009 2:08:42 PM

Quote :

"clap clap clap"

3/20/2009 2:09:19 PM

I kinda figured you wouldn't get it. I'm glad you "won".

3/20/2009 2:10:44 PM

no. i got it. i just thought it was dumb petty. and it makes you a poor excuse for a human being.

3/20/2009 2:13:11 PM

Please help us to find a happy home for these wayward carts.

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 2:41 PM. Reason : -]

3/20/2009 2:13:56 PM

Wow, I was expecting this thread to die...

Quote :

"If they (the store) aren't going to put cart corrals in the lot, I can only assume they (the store) do not care if I put my cart in the grass/dirt curb islands."

Still applies.
I'd never leave my cart where it can hit someone else's car or block a parking space.

Also, lol at the analogies in this thread... there's a critical failure for some people here to understand the difference between:
Wanting convenience/being realistic/knowing that someone exists whose primary job is to deal with the particular issue
vs
Going out of your way to be an asshole to employees

3/20/2009 2:19:09 PM

consumers control the market. if someone wants to be lazy, then they will, and leave their cart somewhere random. if the store doesn't like it, then the consumer will take their business elsewhere.

3/20/2009 2:20:35 PM

^ right (but it also doesn't make it "right" if there is a right/wrong here. i think there is, others not so much)

but none of this has anything to do with whether i like you or not. if you are lazy and selfish (doing everything out of convenience for yourself, or whatever) then i would prefer not to keep you as a close friend. even IF you take your cart back.

apparently this is difficult to understand though.

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 2:23 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2009 2:23:24 PM

Well, that's the thing, then... generally I don't keep people as friends who are petty, unrealistic, naive, moralist, and pretentious for all the wrong reasons.

I suppose this is an "agree to disagree" situation.

3/20/2009 2:26:44 PM

selfishness is a survival instinct. everyone is selfish one time or other. if you say you've never been selfish, lazy, morally wrong, mean from time to time, then i'd call you a liar.

this topic is one of those instances.

3/20/2009 2:28:36 PM

^^how do you know me so well? its like you know me betta than i know myself

if those comments are directed towards me, then let me point out

1) this is the internet
2) you are being judgmental here (if you think i am petty, pretentious, and blah blah blah, unless we are bff, and i just didn't know. but i don't think we've ever met. so hi, how are you, i'm katherine and i return my shopping carts.)
3) this all started because i said something like "i will be FORCED to defriend you"
4) someone took that way, way too seriously. if i was really angry, i'd probably choose big girl words.
5) having an opinion is pretentious?
6) ...
7)???
8) the end.

^ obviously i love it. i am so stupid. how could i bet this stupid. just because i (GENERALLY) don't like people who don't put their carts back (SUBJECT TO EXCEPTIONS). seriously? SERIOUSLY? man. talk about easily offended. dear everyone's panties: i am sorry. i'm also pretty good at getting out knots. and i won't judge you if you have skid marks. i swear.

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 2:31 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2009 2:29:34 PM

lol

You defended against the judgments but managed to miss the actual point.

Nice one.

3/20/2009 2:33:02 PM

oh lawd, this shit just blew up

3/20/2009 2:34:51 PM

actually, most of my comments here have been pretty constructive and general in direction. take it how you will. you on the other hand seem to be pushing your opinion on everyone else.

3/20/2009 2:34:52 PM

no i have been defending my opinion (yes my opinion, i believe i said agree to diagree several times but noooo my opinion is still somehow wrong)

it isn't as irrational as it is being made out to be

seriously. panties. knot. chill. out.

^^ no i didn't geez you people don't understand me at all. i give up. i will never threaten to defriend someone again! christ!

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 2:40 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2009 2:39:24 PM

practising law school stuff?

3/20/2009 2:40:26 PM

haha no just bored

and it got very out of control. for serious. i didn't think people would take my initial post so seriously!!

3/20/2009 2:41:44 PM

i was bored too so i made that comment

3/20/2009 2:43:11 PM

For the record, you're still missing the point:
I placed arbitrary judgments of your character upon you based on some posts you made on an internet message board about what you dislike and how you choose friends.

You assume I'm just getting pissy and trying to insult you. Thus, you defended yourself against those judgments... you implied that they weren't really accurate and probably figured that they were misplaced or incorrect. You even implied that since I have so little to go by, I couldn't possibly place an accurate judgment upon you. One could go so far as to say that the basis of my judgments were "petty", or "trivial".

I'll let you figure out the rest, here. No, you probably still don't get it...
After this, you continue to assert that you are right/your opinion is correct that accurate judgments upon someone's laziness/selfishness can be made based upon where they put their carts. You defend the idea that not taking one's cart back to the store at the CV HT is somehow not a "petty" or "trivial" matter.

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 2:49 PM. Reason : by the way, who besides you is getting serious? I'm getting a good laugh out of the ignorance.]

3/20/2009 2:48:16 PM

OMG THANKS FOR SPELLING IT OUT

i got it the first time though. sorry to make you type all that out

but you are constantly insinuating that i am dumb?!

my defense wasn't SERIOUS. you still probably don't get it but i don't feel like spelling it out for you, as you so nicely did for me (thanks btw, that was sweet)

^ i'm getting a good laugh out of the fact that you STILL think i'm serious. which is in turn making me get serious. its frustrating you know?

ps. this is exhausting. i can't do it anymore.

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 2:53 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2009 2:50:34 PM

Quote :

"but you are constantly insinuating that i am dumb?!"

I do that to most people on the internet, actually.

Quote :

"my defense wasn't SERIOUS."

Sarcastic, certainly, but you still seem pretty invested.

Quote :

"which is in turn making me get serious. its frustrating you know?"

This is called trolling. You could just stop responding and it would go away.

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 2:53 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2009 2:53:08 PM

because that is so apparent over the internet

seriously i don't care where you park your cart but if i saw you doing it, i'd probably say something to you (or wuss out and just take it back for you) as i said initially (before my defriend threat that got everyone up in a tizzy)

ps. ps's are very serious.

pps if i use ps's and fake words, chances are i'm not being serious

ppps for the future

pppps are you supposed to as more ps or ss to these things?

3/20/2009 2:55:11 PM

Quote :

"For the record, you're still missing the point: I placed arbitrary judgments of your character upon you based on some posts you made on an internet message board about what you dislike and how you choose friends. You assume I'm just getting pissy and trying to insult you. Thus, you defended yourself against those judgments... you implied that they weren't really accurate and probably figured that they were misplaced or incorrect. You even implied that since I have so little to go by, I couldn't possibly place an accurate judgment upon you. One could go so far as to say that the basis of my judgments were "petty", or "trivial". I'll let you figure out the rest, here. No, you probably still don't get it... After this, you continue to assert that you are right/your opinion is correct that accurate judgments upon someone's laziness/selfishness can be made based upon where they put their carts. You defend the idea that not taking one's cart back to the store at the CV HT is somehow not a "petty" or "trivial" matter."

That's irony for you, lol.

3/20/2009 2:55:31 PM

Quote :

"because that is so apparent over the internet"

see

Quote :

"this is exhausting. i can't do it anymore."

^^Again, I'm just trolling.
Really, quit taking the bait and it'll stop.
Fo' realz.

3/20/2009 2:57:35 PM

Quote :

"This is called trolling. You could just stop responding and it would go away."

i can see clearly now the rain is goneeeeeeeeee i can see all obstacles in my way

alright i'm for serious (seriously serious) done with this shiz now. good talk. see ya out there.

^ take a sip of your own advice holmes

the exhausting comment: not serious (i wish i could put the "not serious" in tiny font for better effect, but i can't so just imagine it like that. and in a whisper)

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 3:00 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2009 2:57:41 PM

OK EVERYONE HOLD IT

Are we talking about people who leave their carts loose in the parking lot pavement? I don't think I've seen a single person in this thread defend that behavior.

Or, are we talking about people who don't return their carts, but go ahead and pop them up on the median/curb so that they don't roll around.



Because it seems to me that you guys who are in favor of customers returning the carts are trying to conflate the two in order to distract from your laziness.

3/20/2009 3:05:43 PM

3/20/2009 3:07:41 PM

^^Dude... thread's pretty much done.

I got my amusement at khcadwal's expense.
Or perhaps khcadwal was equally amused, which is fine too.
Either way, at least one person here won.

No one cares about shopping carts any more.

[Edited on March 20, 2009 at 3:09 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2009 3:09:36 PM

o we care

3/20/2009 3:12:27 PM

Here's another lazy bastard who's outraged that he would be hired to collect shopping carts........ and then actually have to collect them! Go figure - he's a union member.

Quote :

"In the world of unionized warehouse labor, I believe that it is pretty much a cardinal sin not to return your shopping cart to a designated area. I have violated the unspoken evils of the lot. I was too lazy to go twenty feet. But now that the tables have turned I am able to understand how infuriating it can be. In my situation I sometimes just want to wear a gigantic sign telling people that they should return the shopping cart and then reality strikes: They probably wouldn’t do it anyways. I have no personal connection to the individual, so why should he care? There are times when I want to drop my vest and leave. The consumer seems so ignorant to my existence. Sure it may seem easy, but pushing seventy pound carts will take its toll on the body. It’s terrible to be pushing carts and see an individual ten feet away push a cart off to the side without a care in the world. It’s even worse to see somebody leave a cart several feet from a designated area out of sheer laziness. You couldn’t take the few extra seconds to do it right? The laziness contrasted with the manual labor doesn’t make sense. In fact, it feels more like a smack in the face -- a reasonable job turned upside down. The “lot crew” works hard to ensure there is a cart for everybody. To those who return your cart, bravo! I wish to shake your hand. Make that two-way inclusive trip and show your appreciation for having an available cart. In the end you will be rewarded with a happy and grateful crew who’s more than willing to offer help and care."

The fact that you're in the company of union labor says a lot about your point of view.

3/20/2009 4:00:34 PM

me and jackleg are going to move to cv and crank up the moped-mafia when this depression really hits home

3/20/2009 4:24:19 PM

what does that even mean?!

3/20/2009 11:05:24 PM

I just returned from Harris Teeter where I made it a point to leave my cart up on the grassy median.

3/22/2009 1:10:46 PM

3/22/2009 1:29:30 PM

When I worked at a grocery store, getting stray carts was less boring than stocking or blocking groceries, so the more people who left carts around the parking lot the better.

3/22/2009 2:21:14 PM

Quote :

"I got my amusement at khcadwal's expense. "

honestly. you still think this. come on, man. at least pretend you've caught on by now.

3/22/2009 4:59:00 PM

^^ Yeah getting carts was ftw unless it was raining. Every once and awhile me and another guy would walk around the shopping center building because "maybe there are some carts back there."

3/22/2009 5:05:06 PM

I guess we're in agreement then. As long as the cart is not rolling loose around the parking lot, it is best to leave it wherever is most convenient for the customer

[Edited on March 22, 2009 at 5:26 PM. Reason : s]

3/22/2009 5:26:08 PM

^^ it also blows ass in the summer when it's hotter than fuck outside.

i used to work at a lowes foods as a cashier and some days i'd have to bag. getting carts was a pain in the ass, but it's part of the job. the only thing that really pissed me off and the reason why i can sympathize with the OP was when i'd have to be the closing bagger and i'd be out getting carts at 10 or 11 at night longer than i needed to because assholes would leave them really far away from any of the corrals so i'd have to go down to the other end of the parking lot to get them. then it meant i wouldn't get started on all the other closing duties until later and i'd end up being there til after i was supposed to leave. i always bring my cart back inside when i go to the CV HT just because i can remember being a bagger and getting pissed off when customers were too lazy to do it. i know it's not exactly convenient to bring the cart all the way back, but it's not that hard either considering it's a really small lot.

Quote :

"this is a classic example of customer versus employee disagreement but as always, the customer is always right "

it's more accurate to say the customer is not always right, but they are always the customer.

[Edited on March 22, 2009 at 6:40 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2009 6:39:20 PM

^ well you got payed overtime if you had to stay past your normal shift end, wouldn't you? Technically, you could've just punched out as soon as your shift was up. You might've gotten fired, but that's just the free market - aint it.

Management pays you overtime to stay and pick up the carts - then they pass those extra costs right back to the lazy customers. It all works out in the end.

[Edited on March 22, 2009 at 11:32 PM. Reason : s]

3/22/2009 11:31:35 PM

^ that's only if you work more than 40 hours in a week, which i rarely ever did. i usually worked 10-20 hours during high school and then somewhere around 30 during the summer. it just sucks when you're at the end of an 8 or 9 hour day and you have to spend more time there than you need to because you had to go all over the parking lot getting individual carts since people couldn't take the time to put them in one of the corrals. i know you could give the whole "well that's your job to do it and sometimes people have to stay later" argument, but i'm just saying it's annoying when you have to stay later than you should have to because of something like that, and i don't think anyone would disagree with me. i'm sure anyone else who has had to do that understands, and it's really not unreasonable to put yourself in that situation and think of how you'd feel if you knew you had to spend extra time at work for something that's preventable. to me it just boils down to common courtesy.

[Edited on March 22, 2009 at 11:53 PM. Reason : .]

3/22/2009 11:48:36 PM

took another cart from the lot today. i feel like i've done my good deed for the day.

amazingly, it was the only other cart in the lot so this thread must be working

3/23/2009 5:13:23 PM

^good for you

Quote :

"I just returned from Harris Teeter where I made it a point to leave my cart up on the grassy median. "

thats not good enough and you are still being a lazy bitch

3/23/2009 5:22:49 PM

i like the race car carts

3/23/2009 6:59:38 PM

khcadwal, I love you.

The decline of things like common courtesy in your actions, politeness, and minding your own business are a sign of the general moral decay of a society. As a country we have lost a lot that used to be good about us.

Being too fucking lazy to return the cart to the store or to a corral is a sign that you are a lazy shithead with no concern for your fellow man. You would rather see someone's vehicle get gouged to shit than walk 20 yards. You are a bad, careless, lazy person. This may be because you lack backbone or maybe your parents didn't teach you well, but either way I don't care to associate with you. I'm as much, or more, of a crazy Libertarian as anyone who would argue that being selfish is good for the country, but being self-centered is not, and yes, there is a difference.

This is exactly the same as people who piss on the toilet seat in a public restroom, or don't flush the urinal. Hell, the appearance of public restrooms is a pretty good indicator of what kind of neighborhood you are in. Generally speaking, the cleaner the restroom the better the people in the area (this does not necessarily correlate to income either).

3/23/2009 7:16:18 PM