Muzition00 All American 3238 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that is smoking hot" |
Not anymore, it's not 10/7/2009 11:39:57 PM |
soc33com All American 546 Posts user info edit post |
did something happen 10/8/2009 7:44:51 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^^ haha
^ i encouraged a friend of mine to give it a short ride, though she'd never ridden before...she ran it into the curb and it got a couple of small scratches on the side, that's all (bottom of the belt case and some on the plastics...nothing blatantly obvious)
it was my fault...she was already nervous about trying it out since she's never ridden before, and it's a bit peppier than a 50cc...i'm just glad she's okay (it wasn't a big crash or anything)
[Edited on October 8, 2009 at 9:14 AM. Reason : .] 10/8/2009 9:12:30 AM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
messing it up already. 10/8/2009 9:45:24 AM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
When I wreck my junk I usually tell people I let some girl drive it too. 10/8/2009 9:47:17 AM |
Muzition00 All American 3238 Posts user info edit post |
haha.... she's got a pretty sweet shoulder/hip bruise too
Lesson learned though... let the girl try out your old crappy one first until you know they can ride. Which, btw does your gf (I don't know if I want to mention names) ride or is she like mine?
I'll keep you updated on that 150cc I'm going to look at in Carrboro (hopefully) today. I might buy it right there if I like it, but only if I actually like it and I can talk him down a bit. If there's any hesitation, I'll sleep on it.
[Edited on October 8, 2009 at 10:00 AM. Reason : add] 10/8/2009 9:57:30 AM |
Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
I hope you keep this thing in a garage. It's def hot enough to steal. 10/8/2009 10:44:24 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, it's locked up...not to say it CAN'T be stolen, but it would take some serious B&E to do it (at which point, there's not much i can do) 10/8/2009 10:46:20 AM |
Muzition00 All American 3238 Posts user info edit post |
so, other than locking it up in some enclosed environment (which i don't have... though I plan on keeping it covered), what should you do to keep your junk safe? Should not worry about anyone stealing it? Mine will probably be shittier, not like Quag's. 10/8/2009 1:24:10 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
my met had two things to make it harder to steal (by no means impossible, especially considering the size, though)...the fork prop (i don't know what else you call it...it's not a kickstand that comes from the side, but one that lifts the back wheel off the ground) could be locked in place using a lever in the underseat compartment...unless you broke open the seat, you couldn't unlock it and so you couldn't roll it anywhere...then there's the column lock, but those are incredibly easy to break
really, there's not much you can do...even motorcycles are pretty easy to steal when you consider it generally only takes a few guys, 30 seconds, and a pickup truck to move it to a location where you can break the locks with ease
*shrug* 10/8/2009 1:47:15 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.accutracking.com/ 10/8/2009 2:15:54 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the fork prop (i don't know what else you call it...it's not a kickstand that comes from the side, but one that lifts the back wheel off the ground)" |
center stand10/8/2009 2:46:11 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ yeah, that thing 10/8/2009 2:59:31 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
this combi-brake system is actually pretty cool...you pull the left brake and it applies (i think) 70% to the front and 30% to the back...the right brake is just the front...kinda strange that there's no way to just use the back, but they're drum, so i don't know that that's a bad thing, really
i've found a fair amount of commentary online about how big the front disk is compared to the width of the tire...it really is a skinny tire 10/9/2009 8:51:35 AM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
Good color combo.
I still dont understand the appeal of the big scooters unless you have a family and live in Asia on $50 a month or a urban (and i dont mean Raleigh) female with no parking spot that can't (or doesnt want to) learn to operate a real motorcycle. Maybe a city delivery person.
If you are a dude in suburban US, may as well get a motorcycle. a lot more fun to ride. none of that CVT or linked brake bullshit. If you want to drive with no licence/least effort/for fun, 50 cc small scoot does the job just fine. Or get both. 10/9/2009 9:13:15 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you are a dude in suburban US, may as well get a motorcycle. a lot more fun to ride. none of that CVT or linked brake bullshit. If you want to drive with no licence/least effort/for fun, 50 cc small scoot does the job just fine. Or get both." |
first, i'm not aware of any consumer-available motorcycle that gets 120+ mpg...and if there is, i'm betting i can't afford it
second, there's very little point in having a motorcycle in the city...i HAVE a small motorcycle (rebel 250) and while i enjoy it, i don't need or want to ride the highway right now (and a 250 on the highway is scary, anyway), so it's kind of useless compared to this scooter
motorcycles have POWER, and that power is altogether wasted in the city (the interstate is a different matter, of course)...this scoot accelerates better than my 4-cyl saturn (which isn't saying much, i know), but that means that it more than keeps up with traffic...i've taken it as fast as 65mph so far, and it rides smoothly...what advantage would a motorcycle give me over this scoot if i'm not riding on the highway?
i guess you could argue about the combi-brake, but it works fine (i suppose you should give it a try and see how you like it)...as for the CVT, what's wrong with it? like i said, i get plenty of power out of this particular scoot...i've never ridden a "traditional" US scoot bigger than 50/60cc, so maybe they're all worse, but this thing is great...i'm telling you, TWW scoot meet-up 10/9/2009 9:22:16 AM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
that's a very womanly way to think about motorycles CVT and linked brakes take out half the fun of riding a motorcycle
since you had that rebel already, you would have been fine with a regular ole' 50 cc scooter, since you can't take the big one out on the highway anyhow without the plates. gas mileage on the small scoot would have been just as good without all the costs, hassle of import, and sparsity of spare parts. Also big scoots make you look like you are trying too hard to look cool while riding what is basically a liquorcycle IMO. they are nothing more than utalitarian vehicles and therefore as cool in my book as a silver 4cyl Toyota Camry that my mom has, and about as much fun to drive 10/9/2009 9:42:24 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that's a very womanly way to think about motorycles CVT and linked brakes take out half the fun of riding a motorcycle" |
fwiw, i agree with you on that point...upon further research, there are 125cc PGM-FI honda waves that use a clutch/chain, don't have linked brakes, and have larger wheels (16" versus my 15", i think)...they share the same underbone and engine, though, so the performance wouldn't be MUCH different (though the step up to 125cc, considering the performance of the 110, would probably give me that 100mph top speed)
Quote : | "since you had that rebel already, you would have been fine with a regular ole' 50 cc scooter, since you can't take the big one out on the highway anyhow without the plates." |
haha, no, the met (now 60cc after the rebore) is too lethargic for me...i suspect new roller weights at minimum and a polini variator were i to get ambitious would help me get to the full 60cc potential, but i didn't see the point in spending the extra money when what i REALLY wanted was to be able to keep up with traffic with decent performance...the performance of a 50/60cc versus this scoot is night and day
Quote : | "gas mileage on the small scoot would have been just as good without all the costs, hassle of import, and sparsity of spare parts." |
not true...the best i've EVER gotten with the met is about 95mpg and only then if i ride it extremely conservatively...if i ride it for performance instead of mileage, it's about 80-85mpg...this new scoot gets almost a 50% increase in fuel economy (400% better than my saturn) and performs significantly better...the import was FUN for me, not really a hassle
spare parts for this scoot are ridiculously abundant and CHEAP...heck, in thailand a oil change/spark plug replacement/air filter replacement is THREE DOLLARS USD...i bought 3 replacement filters for $15 including shipping from thailand and i'm pretty sure i was ripped off by thai standards...honda OEM parts for american scoots/bikes are pricey
Quote : | "Also big scoots make you look like you are trying too hard to look cool while riding what is basically a liquorcycle IMO. they are nothing more than utalitarian vehicles and therefore as cool in my book as a silver 4cyl Toyota Camry that my mom has, and about as much fun to drive" |
that i'll agree with...the fact is, though, that my scoot is more useful in the city than any motorcycle, hands down (no shifting, better gas mileage, just as fast)
eventually, i want to sell the met and the rebel and get a bigger bike...i'll keep the scoot forever, though, because it simply makes more sense for what i use it for 10/9/2009 10:09:57 AM |
soc33com All American 546 Posts user info edit post |
after reading all these posts i think importing this scoot was a waste, you should get rid of it ASAP!!! and bc me being the great guy that i am im willing to buy it from you, whats your price 10/9/2009 10:53:47 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
you're probably right...i don't even have the energy to deal with it anymore...tell you what, you just come pick it up and it's yours
10/9/2009 11:03:41 AM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
how does this scoot compare to the SH150i? i'm thinking about getting that one next year. i might even get the sh300 if they're available. 10/9/2009 2:01:27 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "how does this scoot compare to the SH150i? i'm thinking about getting that one next year. i might even get the sh300 if they're available." |
it's impossible to find any direct comparisons since the SH150i is so new to the US market (originally, it's a european bike) and the click isn't sold here (only thailand the the philippines), but it was my understanding from the information i was able to compile that:
1.) they share the same underbone...the wave, click, cz, air blade, and SH150i are all the same scoot in terms of frame 2.) they are both PGM-FI, so you get the fuel economy and power boost from that tech 3.) SH150i comes with 16-inch alloys, the click is 15" (i think...i'll have to check) 4.) SH150i has dual disk brakes, the click has front disk and back drum 5.) same transmission 6.) SH150i has dual rear shocks, the click has only a single shock 7.) the engines and fuel systems are different (aside from 45cc difference) - the click can run E20, but i'm pretty sure the SH150i can't - the click produces fewer emissions due to more stringent emissions standards in thailand - the click produces about 10 HP (i think), the SH150i is about 15 HP
strangely, despite the difference in engine size and horsepower, honda claims the SH150i only gets 70mpg with a top speed of 65mph...i can hit 65mph on my click fairly quickly (and have, several times) with some power to spare...i have no doubt i could hit 75mph (though 70mph is probably about it on a level surface)
i'm betting the SH150i is restricted all to hell...honda did that with the met by installing a restrictor plate on the intake manifold which reduced the top speed by 2-3mph...so if that's the case with the SH150i, then you might be able to manage an extra 5-10mph with very little work (though you'll kill your warranty)
the SH150i is $4500, IIRC (several hundred more than a comparable vespa and THEIR prices are pretty ridiculous)...that alone is the biggest reason not to buy it, IMO...you CAN buy a decent 250cc motorcycle for that price, or a used one for less than half that...the SH300i is an even bigger waste of cash monies
the SH150i DOES have more under-seat storage (still not enough for a full helmet, but i've yet to find ANY scooter besides my met that does)...there's virtually no room under the click's seat, which is annoying
i like the front of the click better than the front of the SH150i, but that's just cosmetics...i'm wondering how many of the components are shared between the click and the SH150i...
http://powersports.honda.com/2010/sh150i/specifications.aspx
[Edited on October 9, 2009 at 2:54 PM. Reason : link]10/9/2009 2:37:20 PM |
soc33com All American 546 Posts user info edit post |
^^dude lets get together and work out something with quag's guy in thailand...maybe he can give us a discount if we buy one each 10/9/2009 3:39:41 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
if you do, consider the wave 125i (it's essentially a cub with a 125cc PGM-FI engine and manual shifting, which gives you a bit more power and a noticeable increase in mileage)...it's half bike and half scooter
10/9/2009 3:44:15 PM |
soc33com All American 546 Posts user info edit post |
can you pm me this guys contact information or introduce me somehow? or post it here 10/9/2009 3:52:28 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
i wanna buy a scxoot
whats for sale
cash in hand (as always with me) 10/11/2009 5:05:13 AM |
Igor All American 6672 Posts user info edit post |
cant decide which thread is gheyer.. this one or the /message_topic.aspx?topic=577789 10/11/2009 6:34:18 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
both are pretty homo 10/14/2009 9:27:49 AM |