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Dammit100
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it's on TSN, he's gettin 7.5

7/1/2009 10:32:04 PM

Gonzo18
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flyers sign brian boucher which means nitty is gone
also sign ian lepperier

7/1/2009 11:58:17 PM

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Havlat to Wild: 6yrs, 30mil

7/2/2009 12:04:15 AM

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Heatley fucked the Sens over. Total disaster

7/2/2009 12:06:58 AM

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"Brian Gionta to Montreal."

NOoooooo Gio.

7/2/2009 12:25:44 AM

HockeyRoman
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John Madden to Chicago. . . . . . . .FML

7/2/2009 1:44:06 AM

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chicago ain't fuckin' around

also, brian boucher in philly part deux makes me lol

7/2/2009 4:44:07 AM

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I still can't get over how stupid the Hossa deal is. I can only assume Rod Blagojevich set it up.

7/3/2009 4:38:50 PM

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please elaborate?

[Edited on July 3, 2009 at 5:22 PM. Reason : beyond the fact that DiPietro thinks its kinda long]

7/3/2009 5:22:30 PM

Vulcan91
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JESUS CHRIST



im rich bitch show rick nash yo titties

7/3/2009 10:42:40 PM

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Ryan Smyth to Los Angeles for D Kyle Quincey, D Tom Priessing and a 5th round pick

7/3/2009 11:35:02 PM

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The Hossa deal, other than being insanely long, is actually pretty interesting.

12 years, $62.8 million.
Averaged out, that's $5.2 million per year, so that's the hit to the salary cap every year.

But the thing is so insanely front-loaded that it plays all sorts of funny games with their numbers.
$7.9 million each of the first seven years of the deal. $4 million in his eighth year. $1 million each of his ninth and tenth years. $750,000 each for his eleventh and twelfth years.
So really, they are paying him what he's worth (perhaps) for a few years, while he's still going to be good, but his contribution to the salary cap is $2.7 million less than his actual salary. Then when he gets old and crappy and they don't want him on the team anymore, they can sit his ass up in the press box and only have to pay him $1 million or less.
So they can get away with cheating the salary cap at the same time as not being punished when he gets too old to play but is still on contract.
And Hossa doesn't care; he's making too much money to care.

Very sneaky of them. Better hope he doesn't get injured or start to suck.

7/3/2009 11:37:00 PM

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When he is old and broken down they can trade him to a team like Carolina who would be thrilled to have a player like him for only $1 million, and the cap hit is irrelevant because they don't spend to the cap anyway.

7/3/2009 11:39:38 PM

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i wouldn't mind having hossa as our peter bondra in 2017

7/4/2009 9:01:12 AM

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this blackhawks thing is hilarious, their offers to RFAs were mailed too close to Canada Day and didn't arrive on time

they could potentially lose versteeg and barker as accidental UFAs

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283730

7/5/2009 12:04:58 PM

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pwnt

7/5/2009 12:34:49 PM

Dammit100
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c'mon JR, pay up for Barker! lollerskates.

7/5/2009 2:59:24 PM

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Rangers + Gaborik =

7/6/2009 5:44:20 AM

Vulcan91
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Kovalev signed in Ottawa for 2 years at $5 mil per

7/6/2009 4:19:43 PM

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Rangers + Gaborik = he only plays 22 games next year.

7/6/2009 4:47:30 PM

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RANGERS PWNT

7/7/2009 4:51:49 AM

Vulcan91
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So the Flyers signed Pronger to a 7 year extension at $5 million cap hit a year. Since the contract kicks in after he turns 35, that means even if he retires the money goes against their salary cap. Therefore they have to hope Pronger plays until he is 42.

7/7/2009 6:12:44 PM

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I have no idea what my flyers are doing.. Biron wasn't that bad imho. Really Emery?(doesn't he cry about going to practice?) and Boucher(REALLY? I had Nabokov on my fantasy so I would notice when Boucher played and he didn't impress me in the least). Pronger is actually the one I don't really mind(yea yea call us a goonsquad, whatev).

7/7/2009 6:35:25 PM

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There's a little sentiment for Boucher in Philly because they drafted him originally, plus you can always argue that he has the longest shutout streak in the modern era (one of those games was in Raleigh). Emery is a mess, and I don't just mean his attitude. He's large and athletic, but also lazy in his movement and resistant to change (surprise!). It's obvious that Philly have resigned themselves to the fact that until they get a bonafide franchise goaltender, everyone is going to be a stopgap. It's been that way since Hextall, and I think they've finally accepted it.

7/7/2009 6:39:23 PM

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Jiri Hudler is apparently leaving the Wings to sign with Dynamo Moscow

7/8/2009 1:24:15 PM

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they are not allowing him, the nhl that is

7/11/2009 7:33:13 PM

Vulcan91
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There's not really a damn thing the NHL can do about it unless the KHL cooperates.

7/12/2009 12:48:16 AM

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I thought that the Russian League thing wasn't all it was cracked up to be. I remember reading an interview with Jagr about Avery that time but they asked if he was coming back since the KHL was garbage. Maybe it's gotten better. I just can't see why someone would leave the NHL making $Stanley to go freeze in Siberia.

7/12/2009 1:12:27 AM

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The KHL sucks balls, but all of the teams are owned by oil tycoon billionaires. A player who makes $750k in the NHL can go to the KHL and make $5 million. Plus, for the guys who are from Russia or Eastern Europe originally, it's a chance to return home.

7/12/2009 1:51:57 AM

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New Jersey:
OUT Brent Sutter
IN Jacques Lemaire

I am not sure how I feel about this. At least I did well in picking the Devils as my team as they are true to my ethos with their commitment to recycling!

7/13/2009 3:17:03 PM

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7/13/2009 3:33:34 PM

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Haha. I'll take it. I, for one, never minded the trap system. I love defensive hockey because it makes goals actually mean something. Although losing Johnny Madden really hurts in terms of defensive offensemen.

7/13/2009 5:57:28 PM

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damn, havlat is making some statements about the blackhawks' management

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=284740

7/15/2009 10:41:22 AM

Vulcan91
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Press conference at Fenway coming on NHL Net right now to announce the Bruins/Flyers outdoor game

7/15/2009 2:00:50 PM

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and NBC deal extended two years

7/15/2009 2:07:46 PM

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any word on dany heatley?

i keep hoping that the canes would pick him up and give us someone to line up with staal

7/17/2009 7:41:00 AM

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Kovalchuk to become the highest paid player???

A Russian news outlet is reporting that he is going to re-sign with Atlanta at $11.36 million a year, which is the maximum under the current cap. Ovechkin is at $9 million and Crosby at $8.7.

7/22/2009 12:45:27 PM

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Atlanta would be retarded to throw that much cash Kovy's way. Then again, it would keep their streak of god-awful front office moves alive.

7/22/2009 2:17:59 PM

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Sweet Baby Jesusaurus Rex!!!!!! Travis Zajac resigned with the Devils!!!!!

7/22/2009 4:19:20 PM

legatic
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aha, it's nice to see the Devils were able to hang on to someone at least

7/22/2009 4:21:07 PM

HockeyRoman
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Ouch. . .Damn. Dude....

7/22/2009 4:22:21 PM

Dammit100
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when it comes to losing key players in a single offseason, the sabres set the bar pretty damn high a couple years ago.

7/22/2009 4:44:45 PM

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Goalies' World End of Season Rankings:

1. Niklas Backstrom
2. Tim Thomas
3. Tomas Vokoun
4. Henrik Lundqvist
5. Cam Ward
6. Ryan Miller
7. Steve Mason
8. Dwayne Roloson
9. Miikka Kiprusoff
10. Roberto Luongo

7/23/2009 5:33:34 AM

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was the writer of the article swedish?

7/23/2009 7:27:33 AM

Vulcan91
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Vokoun? Seriously? Mason at 7?

7/23/2009 10:19:22 AM

Vulcan91
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LULZ it is official. Kovalchuk $11.36 million

7/23/2009 11:25:57 AM

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LOL @ Islanders signing Biron. So... Biron, Roloson and DiPietro's ungodly contract are all on the Island. Perfect!

7/23/2009 12:07:12 PM

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http://www.channel1media.com/lightning/2009/

7/23/2009 10:29:59 PM

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7/23/2009 10:31:54 PM

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Quote :
"Vokoun? Seriously? Mason at 7?"


The GW rankings are kind of weird. There's a big emphasis on consistency, keeping bad games to a minimum, and stealing games. There's also a part of the formula that gives a boost to goalies who play well down the stretch, and a factor that weighs save percentage based on the quality of each shot. Also, this set of rankings doesn't include playoffs. They save that for the "Goalie of the Year" issue, which works on a calendar year as to include the stretch run, playoffs, and opening of the new season.

As an example, Toskala is #37 and Raycroft is #48 despite having almost identical SV%/GAA, because Raycroft, even during his 7-game win streak, couldn't string together more than two games above .920 SV%.

FWIW, Vokoun and Mason both have better numbers than Cam, and Vokoun's number with Florida are better than Luongo's with Florida in his last year there.

The whole list, just for fun:

1. Niklas Backstrom
2. Tim Thomas
3. Tomas Vokoun
4. Henrik Lundqvist
5. Cam Ward
6. Ryan Miller
7. Steve Mason
8. Dwayne Roloson
9. Miikka Kiprusoff
10. Roberto Luongo
11. Marc-Andre Fleury
12. Chris Mason
13. Ilja Bryzgalov
14. Martin Biron
15. Evgeni Nabokov
16. Pekka Rinne
17. Marty Turco
18. Jonas Hiller
19. Nikolai Khabibulin
20. Kari Lehtonen
21. Craig Anderson
22. Mike Smith
23. Scott Clemmensen
24. Jonathan Quick
25. Carey Price
26. Jose Theodore
27. Peter Budaj
28. Joey Macdonald
29. Jaroslav Halak
30. Alex Auld
31. Martin Brodeur
32. Cristobal Huet
33. Ty Conklin
34. Antero Niittymaki
35. Jean-Sebastien Giguere
36. Yann Danis
37. Vesa Toskala
38. Manny Fernandez
39. Brian Boucher
40. Dan Ellis
41. Martin Gerber
42. Brian Elliot
43. Chris Osgood
44. Jason LaBarbera
45. Patrick Lalime
46. Erik Ersberg
47. Kari Ramo
48. Andrew Raycroft
49. Johan Hedberg
50. Manny Legace
51. Josh Harding
52. Kevin Weekes
53. Mikael Tellqvist
54. Brent Johnson
55. Stephen Valiquette
56. Curtis Sanford
57. Michael Leighton
58. Jeff Deslauriers
59. Dany Sabourin
60. Mathieu Garon
61. Mike McKenna
62. Curtis McElhinney
63. Ondrej Pavelec
64. Curtis Joseph
65. Pascal Leclaire
66. Tuukka Rask
67. Daniel LaCosta
68. Alvaro Montoya
69. Simeon Varlamov
70. John Curry
71. Olaf Kolzig
72. Rick DiPietro
73. Peter Mannino
74. Matt Climie
75. Ben Bishop
76. Michal Neuvirth
77. Cory Schneider
78. Tobias Stephan
79. Josh Tordjman
80. Fredrik Norrena
81. Wade Dubielewicz
82. Antti Niemi
83. Jimmy Howard
84. Justin Pogge
85. Marc Denis
86. Riku Helenius
87. Brent Krahn
88. Marek Schwarz
89. Chris Holt

Justin Peters finished #12 of 100 in the AHL rankings, and Canes prospect Mike Murphy finished #1 of 50 in the OHL rankings.

Not that any of this really means anything.

7/24/2009 4:22:44 AM

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