i want to do that but i'm worried about running MyTether with it...

[Edited on March 29, 2010 at 8:14 PM. Reason : the phone is nearly on fire after running it for awhile]

3/29/2010 8:14:29 PM

Supposedly, pricing on the Pre Plus is moving to 49.99 w/ mobile hotspot for free.


That is very tempting.

4/1/2010 8:20:54 AM

I've been running the 800mhz patch since it came out with great results. Not a single freeze or reset and the "lag" is completely gone. Sucks I'll have to remove it today (or whenever 1.4.1 comes out), but hopefully they'll get a new kernel out quickly.

4/1/2010 9:53:08 AM

Quote :

"Supposedly, pricing on the Pre Plus is moving to 49.99 w/ mobile hotspot for free. That is very tempting."

hot damn. will it be free for existing pre owners?

4/1/2010 7:36:09 PM

well apparently it is free for existing users. i just went to my "change features" and added it for 0.00/month. haven't tested it out yet though.

4/1/2010 8:35:58 PM

Mobile HotSpot is working (for free) on Sprint again with the 1.4.1 update today:

http://forums.precentral.net/palm-pre/239368-mobile-hot-spot.html

I can confirm that it works according to that post.

4/1/2010 8:41:05 PM

just tried it out and it works beautifully! if they keep the pre at 49.99 and have the hotspot feature free, sales HAVE to go up

4/1/2010 9:06:42 PM

Quote :

"well apparently it is free for existing users. i just went to my "change features" and added it for 0.00/month. haven't tested it out yet though."

4/3/2010 12:37:10 PM

Not looking good for palm.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aNDFY8m7vaSg&pos=5

4/12/2010 1:22:15 AM

^Sure it is ... if they get bought by a solid hardware company like HTC or Lenovo, who could use a solid mobile operating system like WebOS, then it's good. If, however, they get bought by a company that just wants their patent portfolio then Palm will become just another part of history. But I remain hopeful for WebOS.

4/12/2010 2:02:14 AM

WebOS is what? the 5th 6th most popular Mobile OS? I just really don't see why anyone would want to invest any money at all in what looks to be a sinking ship.

/not really a troll, but it probably looks like one.


[Edited on April 12, 2010 at 5:57 AM. Reason : crap, I forgot one.]

4/12/2010 5:31:22 AM

you have to consider that it's only available on 2 phones (4 if you really want to count the "Plus" versions as a diff. phone). The phones were introduced to the public through some of the worst advertising in the history of marketing, were only available on Sprint for the very large majority of their lifespan, and have been reviewed as being lacking in hardware. I think WebOS got enough good reviews for other companies to be interested in it.

4/12/2010 7:53:05 AM

Palm seems to consistently deliver an outstanding interface, then let themselves stagnate.

For the sake of nostalgia, I do hope that somebody who's interested in seeing Palm produce more good products buys them. I wouldn't own a non-GSM phone, but otherwise the Pre would've been worth a look.

4/12/2010 9:34:13 AM

well i think the Palm CEO is right, the Pre/Pixi should have come to Verizon first before the Droid if they were going to stand a chance. but big red put so much behind the Droid (all the ads), there's no hope for the Palm devices if they don't advertise.

i mean i see Droid ads on buses, i see about 2-3 Droid ads a day, ads on the internet, they're virtually everywhere. to this date i think i've only seen 2, maybe 3 Palm device advertisements.

i'll be completely honest, i think the Palm Pre & the webOS are probably the best device and OS on the market (Droid & Android a close 2nd). but if it lacks backing, it's hard to buy into. that's what swayed my buying decision.

i wanted app support for my device and i didn't want to switch to AT&T. most of the people that ALREADY have an iPhone app are now looking to develop an Android app.

[Edited on April 12, 2010 at 10:58 AM. Reason : ,]

4/12/2010 10:55:48 AM

WebOS is probably the cleanest and most enjoyable mobile OS experiences but Palm isn't going to get anywhere with crap hardware and little advertising. I'd love to see WebOS make it to other devices.

4/12/2010 11:14:44 AM

Palm on sale

4/12/2010 12:21:07 PM

Fire sale more like it.

Pre Plus on VZW: $49.99 (BOGO FREE)
Pixi Plus on VZW: $29.99 (BOGO FREE)

4/15/2010 6:38:50 PM

Anyone have an app that can hear and ID songs being played?


V haha

4/15/2010 8:44:07 PM

ah shit, thought this was the iphone thread

[Edited on April 15, 2010 at 8:58 PM. Reason : ]

4/15/2010 8:58:28 PM

Rumors of Best Buy discontinuing the Pre Plus. Or at least that's what a guy claimed they told him.
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1636982

It's funny watching Verizon throw in everything but the kitchen sink to help save the phone. $199 to $49 in 3 months, free wifi tethering. What more can they do?

4/15/2010 9:27:18 PM

^^^there's an android app called Shazam, maybe that will help your search for a port over

4/15/2010 9:55:06 PM

As soon as Palm finishes the API for the microphone we'll have it.

Hey, it only took them 6 months to get out an awesome video recording application (including the new API to use it, of course). All the while they were pushing many enhancements and fixes for other areas of the phone. They are very active with development.

The problem you're seeing is that WebOS is still in the baby stage of development, much like iPhone OS was in version 1. But hey, we've already got copy/paste, multitasking, native applications, video recording, etc.


[Edited on April 15, 2010 at 10:31 PM. Reason : .]

4/15/2010 10:30:48 PM

Quote :

"just tried it out and it works beautifully! if they keep the pre at 49.99 and have the hotspot feature free, sales HAVE to go up"

From like 1 a month to 1 a week, and the phone has like a 50% return rate.

4/19/2010 9:42:45 AM

i don't understand why anyone wouldn't like this phone...

4/19/2010 2:16:27 PM

lack of apps, that's about it. i don't think it's that people don't like the phone, i think they just find out real fast that all the websites & companies have iPhone & Android apps, but no support for Pre.

for me personally i was going to get the Pre when it came out on Verizon, but WHILE i waited, the Droid & Eris were released and surpassed the Pre in popularity before the Pre even came out on Verizon, and in turn picked up all the developers that may have developed for Palm. but i mean come on if you were a developer, who'd you develop for, Google or Palm? one has a track record for success, the other is on the hinge of being bought out. doesn't matter if the hardware & software is better, it's just all in how it's seen in the public eye.... no matter how good the platform is to develop for, developers follow the money.

[Edited on April 19, 2010 at 3:52 PM. Reason : .]

4/19/2010 3:48:33 PM

marketing, marketing, marketing. If it had the backing of the droid when it came out on sprint, who knows where palm would be. The return rate would probably be 10x what it is now but at least they probably wouldn't be on the verge of a buyout. WebOS is great but the hardware just isn't there. I'd love to see it on a device like the Evo or Incredible.

4/19/2010 4:43:34 PM

Palm continues to act like everything is going fine:

http://www.precentral.net/project-ares-hits-10-adds-components-undo-more

Quote :

"Project Ares hits 1.0, adds components, undo, more Want to develop webOS apps but can't be bothered building an interface from scratch? Enter Project Ares, Palm's browser-based development system with drag in drop UI, a code editor, visual debugger, and plenty for the aspiring webOS Developer. It's just exited Beta and officially has a one-point-oh moniker. Palm's even tacked on more functionality: 'Components, which are widgets that provide functionality, but without any user interface. The palette now contains the service calls, sensors, etc that are in the webOS SDK' There's undo, redo, cut, copy, pase, JSLint, FeedList widgets for RSS, Google Maps wrappers, and plenty more."

By the way, Ares is pretty sweet and it really makes app development quite easy. It's not as powerful as using a proper SDK, but for people who are looking to utilize the basic WebOS functionality, it's perfect.

4/19/2010 5:43:19 PM

^They're desperate. They've been 'bribing' their senior executives to stay on board with cash incentives ($250,000) and stock options. The CFO already jumped ship.

4/19/2010 5:50:06 PM

so, hp is buying palm, eh

http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2010/100428xa.html

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/28/hp-buys-palm/

4/28/2010 4:12:14 PM

This is quite intriguing...

Rahul Sood (the respected CEO behind Voodoo PC) turned down higher offers from Dell and private buyers to sell to HP - citing their desire for innovation and research. If this is still holding true since the Voodoo days than I can't think of a much better buyer than HP.

4/28/2010 4:15:53 PM

Palm needed a big company to buy them, HP needed a way back in to the mobile device market.

They both win. And hopefully we win, too. Hey HP ... don't screw WebOS up.

4/28/2010 4:55:35 PM

Rumor has it that HP is looking to extend WebOS to other devices (tablets?)

4/28/2010 5:28:05 PM

that would be a pretty nice idea. WebOS is one of the better things that Palm has done.

4/28/2010 5:35:05 PM

I'd say the best thing.

4/28/2010 5:42:55 PM

Quote :

"Voodoo PC"

Then HP went and dismantled it, basically turning it into a resources acquisition.

4/28/2010 6:41:34 PM

Quote :

"HP just wrapped up its conference call regarding its acquisition of Palm. Based upon what we heard, HP doesn’t seem to be particularly interested in anything but webOS, which it plans to build out as a part of its connected mobile ecosystem. Here are some of the highlights of what HP has in store for webOS: -An emphasis on building out webOS and leveraging HP’s financial resources, scale, and global presence to do so -Investment in building a robust development platform to make app development easier and smoother for developers -Increasing the investment in both R&D and marketing/sales of webOS -Bringing webOS devices to both consumer and commercial markets in the form of smartphones and tablets -HP has not set a timeline for webOS deployment on HP hardware, want to focus on closing the deal first -Palm CEO John Rubinstein and his team will continue to work on webOS -No decision has been made on what will happen to HP’s current lineup of Windows Mobile-powered iPAQs. Their fate will be decided when the deal is closer to completion -webOS will play a key role in what HP calls its connected mobile ecosystem. The focus will be on on connecting devices across HP’s lineup to to create an HP experience -HP will not be content creators but access providers. Providing cloud-based solution to access and manage data. HP would not comment on whether they will try to create an iTunes-like infrastructure and will wait until the deal is completely squared away before looking further into the matter In the end, it’s clear that HP bought Palm to integrate webOS into its brand and to grow the platform to the next level. The fact that it also is acquiring a large treasure chest of patents is merely icing on the cake."

[Edited on April 28, 2010 at 8:09 PM. Reason : ]

4/28/2010 8:06:57 PM

HP basically wants a piece of Google's pie.

4/28/2010 11:59:51 PM

I continue to enjoy webOS multitasking. Especially with the Uber-Kernel and Govnah giving me the ability to dynamically clock the processor between 125Mhz and 800Mhz ... Battery life has never been better.

Also, $20 for a Touchstone, thanks Radioshack for putting it on sale:
http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/33784/palm-touchstone-charging-dock-for-palm-pre-and-pixi-phones-20-palm-pre-vehicle-power-adaptercharger

5/4/2010 5:06:22 PM

Quote :

"Pre Plus on VZW: $49.99 $29.99 (BOGO FREE) Pixi Plus on VZW: $29.99 (not sure but who cares when the big one is $30?) (BOGO FREE)"

Sales are still not picking up.

5/5/2010 8:00:44 PM

the power button stopped working on mine

I'm debating taking it apart myself or just trying to get ANOTHER pre.

5/6/2010 6:44:16 PM

I heard that the pre was verizons best selling phone last month

5/6/2010 9:23:12 PM

Quote :

"HP CEO: "We didn't buy Palm to be in the smartphone business""

6/2/2010 7:59:36 PM

^They bought Palm so they can use WebOS in mobile phones AND many other devices. It sounds like he's asking people to not pigeon-hole their purchasing intent.


[Edited on June 2, 2010 at 8:24 PM. Reason : .]

6/2/2010 8:24:03 PM

woohoo, im getting new phone. i just couldnt handle the iphone. all i want to do is text/gchat and it looked like a better interface for that.

6/9/2010 8:13:37 AM

I have my Palm Pre running 100% stable at 1Ghz, it absolutely smokes and does not have any temperature issues or OS lockups. Further, battery consumption has actually decreased from the stock 500Mhz or even the previously OC'd 800Mhz due to more optimizations. The installation is as simple as putting the WebOS Internals testing feed into Preware, clicking install, and rebooting.

Kernel Feeds (use the one for your OS version):
http://ipkg.preware.org/feeds/webos-kernels/testing/

1Ghz - F105 Thunderchief (alpha) OC kernel:
http://forums.precentral.net/web-os-development/252133-f105-thunderchief-alpha.html

The image above is not my Palm Pre.


Also, I am excited that I was correct about HP's intention to create many more devices with webOS:
http://www.precentral.net/hp-and-palm-promise-next-generation-webos-devices

Quote :

"Great news. Palm is now part of the HP family. And that means bigger and better things for customers like you. With the power of HP behind us, the excitement created by the first Palm® webOS™ phones will grow even stronger as we introduce a new generation of devices. At the same time, you’ll still receive the same outstanding support that you’ve come to expect from Palm."

In related news, HP Wireless Central now selling Palm Pre and Pixi for FREE on Verizon/AT&T:
http://www.cellstores.com/mobile/?r=hp

[Edited on July 6, 2010 at 4:02 PM. Reason : .]

7/6/2010 3:51:29 PM

will i f my phone up if i try that? its not like it even feel slows as it ships.

7/6/2010 4:10:16 PM

In short, it is very safe, but keep in mind that Global Thermonuclear War is always a possibility when overclocking.

So these recent overclocked kernels (particularly F105) are currently in use by many people testing them for full stability, and thus far I don't know of anyone who has reported a dead phone. There is a strict "code of overclocking" being followed by the WebOSInternals guys with regard to the code for overclocking and doing their best to ensure nothing crashes and burns into a pit of fire. They've done a great job so far.

If you later decide to remove or change your kernel, it's as simple as tapping remove in Preware. The kernel can also be updated by tapping update in Preware. If anything untoward (power failure, etc) happens while the installation/removal of a kernel mod is in progress, there is always webOS Doctor to restore the phone. So far we don't think it is possible to brick these things.

[Edited on July 6, 2010 at 4:35 PM. Reason : .]

7/6/2010 4:33:50 PM

Overclocked to 1.2 Ghz with the new SR-71 BlackBird kernel ... running even better than ever, and still rock-solid-stable.

http://forums.precentral.net/webos-internals/255538-sr71-blackbird-kernel.html




[Edited on July 18, 2010 at 11:11 AM. Reason : .]

7/18/2010 11:07:32 AM

I'm not gonna risk the 1.2 ghz but I'm at 800 mhz and it's nice as hell

7/19/2010 7:45:16 AM

yeaaaah i'm happy at 1.0, i'll wait until a few more people jump on the 1.2 bandwagon

7/19/2010 9:38:49 PM