scratch that

i just watched this video and now i am going to try and learn this fucking shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0p4fkH9qC4M&feature=player_embedded

3/2/2010 7:28:58 PM

Wow. It has been a very interesting afternoon with this game. Even though I got off to a rocky start, I couldn't be much happier with this game. It feels like a substantial improvement over the first.

- It took me several attempts to validate the code for VIP status. I also had the same trouble with the preorder code. I couldn't figure out for the life of me what I was doing wrong until, on a whim, I set caps lock (this is on the 360) and also added all of the dash marks in the codes, and they worked. I've never had a game code on the 360 require these things.

- I've seen the whole game crash twice, which is another rarity for the 360. The first time it crashed to the dashboard, the second time it locked up the whole system. The game is installed to my HDD, so it wasn't a disc reading problem.

Those things having been said...

- The visuals and map design are exceptional. There are so many different ways to get where you need to go, and you can improvise constantly on your route. (Fuck you, Modern Warfare 2.) I especially love the fishing village (whose name eludes me) map.

- Remember the Magnum handgun from the first Halo? Yeah, that gun is in this game in the form of the 1911. I can't believe how powerful the 1911 is. I point-blank 2-shot-headshot a guy at full health with it and dropped him. It also appears to have really good range, as I killed a guy from at least 40 yards away in 6 shots. If the 1911 is this powerful, I'm curious to see what the revolver is like.

- I am SO happy that rotors are now hitboxes for airborne helicopters. Unlike the previous game where rockets would just magically fly right through, if you can put a rocket into the rotors, you will score a hit. I shot down 2 Blackhawks with unguided shots in this way. Also, it seems to be MUCH easier to get a tracer dart to connect with a helicopter, as I could never seem to get this in the first game.

- The UAV is a complete blast to fly. I actually went an entire battle with it and didn't get shot down once. I earned a ton of points with spot assists, and get in quite a few guided missile kills. I forgot to set up the vehicle secondary weapon specialization to have the machine gun, but I definitely want to try that.

- People are still so amazingly stupid about throwing out medikits and ammo boxes. It's like free points - why wouldn't you use them all the time?

3/2/2010 9:18:52 PM

got this today, will start playing on thursday

3/2/2010 9:23:34 PM

EA's shit seems to be down now.

but so far it looks awesome and is just as fun as all the older BFs and you can tell the modern warfare kids are because they immediately run to a corner after they kill someone then you just blow the corner when you respawn

3/2/2010 9:40:09 PM

my game crashed a few times last night. all 3 times it took me to the dashboard.

i hate how many bullets it takes to kill someone in non-hardcore mode. it is almost perfect in hardcore mode. i hate the limited HUD in hardcore, but not enough to make me play non-hardcore mode.

and yes the uav is awesome. so are the flight controls for all the helicopters. i was awful in the first BC but i lasted nearly an entire match in an apache last night. i haven't been in the apache gunner seat yet but it must own because i was racking up the assists while flying around

3/3/2010 9:21:41 AM

Seriously, guys, send me a friend invite to 'maticwin'. Playing on random teams gets boring. I want to play some squadmatch's.

3/3/2010 9:31:58 AM

after a few matches last night i am slightly worried that they may have overcompensated from BC1 on the helicopter vs AA guns. The AA guns seem to do very little damage to the helis and the helis can take out the AA guns in one or two passes.
I had flash backs from Battlefield Vietnam. Where the helicopter would kill entire teams over and over again and just make it not fun anymore. But I will say I sniped a guy in the head in the Huey in flight and that was awesome.

3/3/2010 9:57:58 AM

So what are the initial thoughts on this game? Should I pick it up on Friday? Im a FPS person and mainly play COD.

3/3/2010 10:47:01 AM

yea if you like FPS this is worth the pick-up they even incorporated some COD aspects (just got a ACOG scope for the sniper class to use of the semi auto sniper) into the game... i dont like them because i was never a really big fan of COD but someone who is would like them.

3/3/2010 11:21:43 AM

you guys playing this on PC or a console? for those on PC, how are the servers? good amount? fair level of playing? douchebaggery not tolerated?

3/3/2010 11:29:43 AM

who's got this on PS3? Add me: Dr_Alan_Watkins.

3/3/2010 12:07:23 PM

I'm on 360, so hit up Silent Scope EX if you'd like to play on a team.

I have yet to jump into an AA gun to see what kind of damage they do against helicopters now. I do know that a single guided missile from the UAV will take out a mounted AA emplacement, which makes the UAV very dangerous.

Another thing I've noticed is that knife range seems to have been increased. Maybe this is just my perception, but I've been killed a few times from a longer range than I'd have previously thought possible.

3/3/2010 12:14:13 PM

Quote :

"So what are the initial thoughts on this game? Should I pick it up on Friday? Im a FPS person and mainly play COD."

I have played both franchises for many years now, and of the current incarnations (MW2 and BC2), there is no doubt in my mind that I enjoy this infinitely more than MW2. The main things about Battlefield which I appreciate more than COD are the large map sizes, the flexibility of the environment (e.g. not having to be constantly funneled unto a non-destructible chokepoint), the slightly slower pace, the ability to use vehicles, and the greater emphasis on class-based teamwork. A lot of people would cite these same reasons as to why they do NOT Battlefield over COD, but that's OK too. It's all personal preference. Now that Bad Company 2 is out, I do not forsee going back to playing any Modern Warfare 2 for a very, very long time... if at all.

3/3/2010 12:22:07 PM

Ok, can someone confirm that there is no prone position in this game? I couldnt see a way to lay down, and didnt witness anyone laying down, but this seems so odd...

3/3/2010 12:41:51 PM

^According to the video Axelay posted at the top you can't go prone.

3/3/2010 1:06:05 PM

will be getting this probably for the PC....

3/3/2010 1:10:22 PM

No, there is no prone in this game. I don't really know why DICE chose not to implement it for either of these games, but I suspect it may be to prevent the rampant dolphin diving from BF2. Dunno.

I've just had an interesting thought regarding my XIM controller. Since Recon class gets a scope which constantly spots enemies, this unlock doesn't seem like anything more complex than hammering on the back button. Shouldn't be too hard to write a macro which will do the same thing whenever I look down the gunsight regardless of which class I'm using.

3/3/2010 1:32:03 PM

The video which dFshadow posted at the top of the page is BRILLIANT. Absolutely required viewing for everyone, regardless of whether you played the first Bad Company or not.

Oh, and here's another thorough reference for unlocks.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=957916&topic=53682428

And as long as I'm thinking aloud here, I wonder if the Quick Reload Package vehicle specialization also works on the UAV? That would be fantastic.

[Edited on March 3, 2010 at 1:36 PM. Reason : UAV]

3/3/2010 1:33:42 PM

you cannot go prone. i like this causes less camping and gayshit to go on..

3/3/2010 1:37:02 PM

sucks tho for those players who are big snipers

3/3/2010 1:43:25 PM

Quote :

"So what are the initial thoughts on this game? Should I pick it up on Friday? Im a FPS person and mainly play COD."

If you are an avid CODMW2 theres a good chance that you are going to complain so much about this game unless you have an open-mind to realize that this game can't play the exact same way (or even near) as a COD game because that would not make financial sense, as BC2 would lose big time because why would fans cross over? Just like you got use to stuff in COD, you should be able to get used to the gameplay aspects of BC2. Also, in this game if you have a KD higher than say 1.0 you are doing REALLY good because there is no killstreaks to get you 15 kills a game or so. There are things that can get you kills but its not like getting a predator missile for example and getting an easy double or triple kill to then call in a harrier. Thats not to say its impossible to have a 2.0 or higher KD but if you worry about KD in this game you are going to be stressed and not have any fun at all. Oh, and the spawn system is superior to any online shooter.

3/3/2010 1:46:59 PM

Quote :

"sucks tho for those players who are big snipers"

we call them 'tossers'

Quote :

"you cannot go prone. i like this causes less camping and gayshit to go on.."

yeah like in bf2 when they would jump hit prone which would make them 'dive' while giving them prone accuracy while flying through the air as a small target.....

[Edited on March 3, 2010 at 1:48 PM. Reason : lamers]

3/3/2010 1:47:38 PM

Thanks for the feedback Axelay and seedless. I will pick up the game on Friday and check it out. I enjoy games with open maps and vehicles and lots of explosions. Is glitching a problem? MP games a pain to get into?

Anyone who plays on the 360 add me : DaBEANnHCL

3/3/2010 3:40:15 PM

I have yet to see any map exploitation, although I did see yesterday a random orange pylon jumping up and down for no apparent reason. I laughed about it, but it didn't affect gameplay. I have also had no difficulty yet in joining multiplayer games, but I tend to stick strictly to Rush games.

3/3/2010 5:23:01 PM

^^I'm picking this up today so i will be on tonight!

3/3/2010 6:15:54 PM

Booyah. I got my "spot spammer" Autohotkey script to work. Now, whenever I hold down left trigger to aim down the gunsights, the back button is also repeatedly pressed at a medium rate (about 3 times per second). Hopefully this'll help out the team and earn some extra points.

Time to get testing.

3/3/2010 6:34:40 PM

Thats cheating...

3/3/2010 7:07:40 PM

Yeah, I get that a lot.

3/3/2010 8:24:16 PM

Installing to the xbox now....

3/3/2010 8:35:44 PM

Got it for XBOX 360 today.... I miss BF2 and how huge it was with the independent servers, this one is still up in the air for me

3/3/2010 9:12:40 PM

I started out not liking the Thompson, but after tonight I could almost swear by it. It's amazingly useful for Assault class to be able to carry C4 and ammo boxes - much more useful than 40mm grenades (so far).

I am having an obscene amount of fun with this game.

3/3/2010 10:25:57 PM

Awesome game, if you're on PC, the hardcore servers are more fun (doesn't take a full mag to kill someone - also no map).

I really like how the gravity affects bullets, separates good snipers from bad (have to lead ahead to kill moving targets).

3/4/2010 1:31:57 AM

haha nice, no prone

remember people doing the worm in BF2?

I fucking hated that.



ALSO: who got this for PC? I'm thinking about picking it up before the weekend.

[Edited on March 4, 2010 at 2:49 AM. Reason : .]

3/4/2010 2:48:48 AM

I got it for Xbox, I believe Spar got it for PC though.

3/4/2010 3:08:44 AM

My roommate and I have been playing it on 360. Loving it so far.

I'm a huge fan of Isla Inocentes, if only because of the first capture point -- the choppers and boats heading for the island make things fun no matter which side I'm playing. And I just about bust a nut for Arica -- the distances, the number of vehicles, and the mix of fighting styles is excellent.

Quote :

"People are still so amazingly stupid about throwing out medikits and ammo boxes. It's like free points - why wouldn't you use them all the time?"

I play medic a lot, and I throw out medkits like it's candy. To say nothing of the fact that, when I see the squiggly EKG symbol on my radar, I will sacrifice my life to run over and zap their asses. I have a really disgusting amount of fun with the defib paddles -- both reviving and, especially, killing people.

3/4/2010 3:18:37 AM

Friend List for BC2:

XBox 360:
maticwin
Silent Scope EX

PS3:


Copy, add your name, and paste in a new post

3/4/2010 9:37:10 AM

i got it on PC

3/4/2010 10:00:22 AM

^^ Actually, I just changed that last night. It's now Axelay MkIV. I decided to drop Silent Scope EX since I don't focus on sniping as much as I used to.

Here's a page with some nice weapon stats if you're interested in reading about that sort of thing.

http://denkirson.xanga.com/722757523/bad-company-2/

3/4/2010 10:26:48 AM

Friend List for BC2:

XBox 360:
maticwin
Axelay MkIV

PS3:
Dr_Alan_Watkins

Copy, add your name, and paste in a new post

[Edited on March 4, 2010 at 10:33 AM. Reason : .]

3/4/2010 10:32:44 AM

you guys let us know if you find any glitches or just people exploiting the game

i'm kinda looking to switch allegiances from COD but it will not be for a while, I just don't have time

since this was beta tested (hey good idea) i'm sure it will have way less problems

[Edited on March 4, 2010 at 11:06 AM. Reason : .]

3/4/2010 11:04:39 AM

The Dude - SgtSobchak

[Edited on March 4, 2010 at 11:10 AM. Reason : PS3]

3/4/2010 11:09:29 AM

LoL you mean since it was beta-tested, there are ALREADY hacks out for it.

I play on PC and Xbox and haven't played enough to notice anyone using them, but they exist for PC I'm sure

http://bfbc2hacks.net/

3/4/2010 11:10:50 AM

not gonna play PC... i noticed there are a lot of grenade launching going on i guess that is just part of the game since the destructible environments and all

probably can't get unlimited ones like in COD though

3/4/2010 11:36:08 AM

XBox 360:
maticwin
Axelay MkIV
ktk Golovko

PS3:
Dr_Alan_Watkins

3/4/2010 12:03:25 PM

Well, my gunsight-spot macro is probably considered cheating, but it's really only consolidating 2 button presses into 1. No other dirty tricks, I promise.

As for grenades, you should see what happens when you get 2 Assaults with ammo boxes working together to level a building. They each throw down an ammo box, then they both take turns expending as many hand grenades and rifled grenades as they can as fast as the ammo boxes can reload them. The volume of explosives, not to mention the points they are each earning, is hilarious. It's not severely breakable since it takes multiple people to do it and can be pretty easily disrupted once they are discovered, but it is highly effective for a short while.

3/4/2010 12:08:00 PM

yea and once you get the explosive pack that gives double explosives.

But I haven't found too many grenade whoring going on.

3/4/2010 12:12:54 PM

I love this game. It gives you a completely different vibe than CoD MW2. You feel the heat of battle more and you're more afraid to get shot especially in Hardcore mode. Plus the getting shot and dying is much better animated in first person. The sound effects is day and night compared to MW2.

3/4/2010 12:14:21 PM

i love how it says and BE THE BEST.... with hacks how the fuck can you live with you calling yourself the best? you needed aides to get there, like a wheelchair

3/4/2010 12:47:05 PM

XBox 360:
maticwin
Axelay MkIV
ktk Golovko
DaBEANnHCL

PS3:
Dr_Alan_Watkins

3/4/2010 1:00:58 PM

^what did your voice message say last night? haha the voice was low and I couldn't hear it over the background noise but it sounded like you said you weren't getting BC2 until Friday or this weekend?

3/4/2010 1:02:42 PM