marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
page 3 is declared the page of love 9/13/2009 3:42:39 PM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "When can we expect your return to drawing shitty, formulaic cartoons that no one reads?" |
when you diss marko you diss yourself9/13/2009 3:45:22 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
lol it's all good
[Edited on September 13, 2009 at 3:49 PM. Reason : +] 9/13/2009 3:49:12 PM |
LoneSnark All American 12317 Posts user info edit post |
9/12 looks like it was great fun. More of it. 9/13/2009 4:05:06 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
I want to know what these people are going to do when Obama actually does something.
I mean, it took an unprovoked war based on lies to really bring out the crazy on the left. What has Obama done so far? Cash for clunkers?
The problem with these people is they are afraid of imaginary things, just like they are trained to do as god-fearing christians. It isn't as much about wanting things currently to be different as it is about irrational fears of what could be. That's why they seem to have no coherent message. 9/13/2009 5:38:46 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The problem with these people is they are afraid of imaginary things, just like they are trained to do as god-fearing christians. It isn't as much about wanting things currently to be different as it is about irrational fears of what could be. That's why they seem to have no coherent message." |
I mean, yeah, some of these people are retarded. There are legitimate concerns one could have about what Obama (and congress) is doing. The trillions of dollars being spent is not going to cure the economy, it's going to make it much, much worse. Devaluation of the currency is already happening, and most of these spending measures haven't even begun to take effect yet. Obama's entire plan has been based off of the deluded Keynesian thinking that, at some unknown point, the trillions of dollars being "pumped" into the economy will have a long-term positive effect.
Of course, the political establishment doesn't speak in these terms. You won't hear many congressmen talking about inflation, and certainly not hyperinflation. Most republicans don't know why they're opposed to the spending, they just are. They were fine with ridiculous spending when it was for "protecting our freedoms." We're broke, and once the rest of the world stops financing our debt, we're going to be absolutely fucked.
[Edited on September 13, 2009 at 6:26 PM. Reason : ]9/13/2009 6:25:58 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Devaluation of the currency is already happening" |
Not really.
Here's the latest CPI report:
Quote : | " CONSUMER PRICE INDEX: JULY 2009 CPI for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) The Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) decreased 0.2 percent in July before seasonal adjustment, the Bureau of Labor Statistics of the U.S. Department of Labor reported today. Over the last 12 months the index has fallen 2.1 percent, as a 28.1 percent decline in the energy index since its July 2008 peak has more than offset increases of 0.9 percent in the food index and 1.5 percent in the index for all items less food and energy. On a seasonally adjusted basis, the CPI-U was unchanged in July following a 0.7 percent increase in June. Small declines in the food and energy indexes offset a small increase in the index for all items less food and energy. The food index declined 0.3 percent in July with all six major grocery store food groups posting declines. The energy index, which rose 7.4 percent in June, fell 0.4 percent in July. Decreases in the indexes for gasoline, fuel oil, and electricity more than offset an increase in the index for natural gas." |
All while the discount rate is 0%.
Inflation is not nearly as great a threat as the recession.
[Edited on September 13, 2009 at 7:13 PM. Reason : ]9/13/2009 7:12:53 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
That is partly because the banks are still sitting on the reserves of cash that were created last year. 9/13/2009 8:08:50 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It isn't as much about wanting things currently to be different as it is about irrational fears of what could be" |
Response?
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Quote : | "The trillions of dollars being spent is not going to cure the economy, it's going to make it much, much worse." |
Classic. Find me a renowned economist who DOESN'T think that the stimulus was at least neutral, if not completely necessary.9/13/2009 9:41:15 PM |
Yao Ming All American 866 Posts user info edit post |
9/13/2009 11:48:09 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
that doesn't even make any fucking sense 9/13/2009 11:57:17 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
the thing that pisses me off the most as a republican is the lack of ideas from the right. all these retards hold up their big signs but dont provide any suggestions to fixing america's problems.
OMG socialism. OMG hitler is our president. we must take our country back. we can do that by voting out all democrats in 2010!!! 9/14/2009 12:16:18 AM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
support the protesters or not, they are having an impact
2010 cant get here fast enough
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32823891/ns/politics-capitol_hill/
[Edited on September 14, 2009 at 12:21 AM. Reason : ] 9/14/2009 12:16:26 AM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
lets just hope all those people protesting will be alive in 2010. And not die due to age or free market insurance denying claims/coverage or losing insurance. 9/14/2009 12:28:06 AM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
or are smart enough to mark the box for the right candidate unlike 2000 9/14/2009 12:31:07 AM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
this image is soooo unabashedly racist, it's actually beyond offensive, and just funny to me.
and i love how there is not a grain of truth to it. it plays off the misinformation of death panels and illegal immigrant healthcare. i'm sure she is an ardent palin supporter and probably a joe wilson constituent.
man o man, this is just hilarious to me. THIS is what makes this dumb bitch protest.
a war started on false evidence...fine wire-tapping in the name of national security...whatever water-boarding...meh greed and corruption on wall street...can take it or leave it financial collapse...hey, it happens
give a mexican a tetanus shot.....WHOA WHOA WHOA...you wait just a goddamned minute now! I ain't lettin' my monies go to no wetback. I'll protest this. also, it gives me an excuse to wear that free sombrero i got during margarita happy hour at chilis on cinco de mayo.
9/14/2009 1:22:45 AM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
did the 9/13ers do anything today? 9/14/2009 1:36:24 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
They wroter newer, better, hilarious puns based on racism and ignorance. 9/14/2009 2:26:30 AM |
3 of 11 All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
9/14/2009 2:39:13 AM |
Yao Ming All American 866 Posts user info edit post |
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not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
honestly i think some of those pictures are digitally altered. i can't tell by the pixels, but i think some people create those to make whites and or republicans bad
[Edited on September 14, 2009 at 4:01 AM. Reason : shock appeal] 9/14/2009 3:59:59 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
So, if a Repub makes a sign like "Bury Obamacare with Kennedy" (which is, of course, offensive and disgusting to any reasonable human being) the real truth is that someone really photoshopped all those images?
Right.
(I'm not saying it DOESN'T happen, there are enough blanks out there, it's just far too easy of a dismissal). 9/14/2009 7:39:42 AM |
lazarus All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
What the FUCK is a 9/12er? 9/14/2009 9:10:15 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
This thread is A+ gold... I love protesters.
Must watch Beck tonight. 9/14/2009 9:11:08 AM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
HERE OUR VOICE HERE OUR VOICE
GET A BRAIN MORANS
i know you want to believe that this was strictly a protest in favor of the free market, but just like how left protests turn out being about gay rights/palestine/war/whatever, this one was as much just an amalgm of right wing causes ranging from "SHOW US THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE OBONGO" to "HANDS OFF MY MEDICARE" to "COMMIE CZARS" (don't turn around, oh uh oh).
Also, if you search tea party protests on flickr, you see a lot of the same sings over and over, so i don't know about your ps claims.
[Edited on September 14, 2009 at 9:45 AM. Reason : .] 9/14/2009 9:41:28 AM |
lazarus All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
What the hell does 9/12 have to do with the free market? Is this some kind of obscure accounting term? 9/14/2009 9:52:08 AM |
EarthDogg All American 3989 Posts user info edit post |
I think you probably have also seen many offensive and stupid signs waving about at liberal rallies.
I think it was more offensive watching David Axelrod on TV dismissing the protesters as being out of touch. I wonder what he would have said if that had been a pro-Obama crowd filling the Capitol mall this weekend. 9/14/2009 10:50:07 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
9/14/2009 10:58:57 AM |
Lumex All American 3666 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think outright racism is the primary motivator. I think it's the same stuff the right has been protesting against for decades, but now we an internet-savvy right; it's fanning the fire and creating more turnout and hyperbole than there would've been without the internet. The same goes for the left, but I'm more inclined to give credit to left-protesters as their causes more often appear altruistic.
However, I'm sure a significant portion of these 9-12 protesters believe Obama's policies will cater to blacks. After all, evangelical christian voters are used to politicians who don't reach across the isle, who don't look for common ground and who only appeal to their base. Because of their negative perception of blacks, I think this portion of protesters associates black policies with welfare, reparations, corruption, drugs and petty crime. Therefore, I think it's reasonable to say racism is a significant motivator in these protests. 9/14/2009 10:59:07 AM |
lazarus All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
You guys are really going to make me google this, aren't you? 9/14/2009 11:15:25 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What the hell does 9/12 have to do with the free market? Is this some kind of obscure accounting term?" |
It's referring to the day after 9/11/2001 when the country was unified in a sense.9/14/2009 11:24:24 AM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
And these protests have been nothing if not unifying. 9/14/2009 11:42:14 AM |
Yao Ming All American 866 Posts user info edit post |
at least it has given the country another reason to laugh at Republicans 9/14/2009 11:49:54 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ from the poll in the other thread, that's what a lot of people are doing. 9/14/2009 12:27:09 PM |
lazarus All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's referring to the day after 9/11/2001 when the country was unified in a sense." |
And people are protesting this? WTF?9/14/2009 12:54:24 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ huh?
No one is protesting against unity.
They are protesting against Obama under the guise of unity. 9/14/2009 1:05:19 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
the face of the revolution
9/14/2009 1:14:40 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
^ That pic is ancient and has nothing to do with the protests being discussed here. 9/14/2009 1:22:13 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
it's representative 9/14/2009 3:12:12 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
"Obama is a half-breed Muslin" would be more timely 9/14/2009 3:39:34 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
This gentleman has the largest balls in the world:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Q7XH8lfGMc 9/14/2009 4:18:54 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's representative" |
that guy is probably in a union joe. He has the look.
and the protest had a great turnout. Although I didnt hear much about it. I guess cindy sheehan wasnt there with 10 other people.9/14/2009 4:23:45 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I like how people around him were fighting back with their placards.
It reminded me of when Obi Won and Anakin tried to force push one another while dueling on Mustafar. Only holding cardboard signs. 9/14/2009 5:18:56 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "All while the discount rate is 0%.
Inflation is not nearly as great a threat as the recession." |
CPI is not a good measure of inflation. Inflation isn't just an increase in prices, it's the expansion of the money supply. Do you deny that we're printing a lot of money? Is that money backed by anything? If not, what do you think is going to happen to the value of the dollar?
Quote : | "That is partly because the banks are still sitting on the reserves of cash that were created last year." |
Agreed.
Quote : | "Classic. Find me a renowned economist who DOESN'T think that the stimulus was at least neutral, if not completely necessary." |
Wasn't there a huge list of economists that didn't want the stimulus? I mean, there are plenty of economists out there that voiced opposition to the stimulus. I have a feeling that, in the context of your statement, "renowned" is defined as "anyone that supported the stimulus."
If the root problem was excessive consumer and government debt, and it was, then the problem won't be solved by more debt. It may be true that the stimulus temporarily "saved" us from full fledged depression. The unfortunate reality is that a depression is going to take place either way. A depression is what was (and is) necessary to recovery. America spent money it didn't have for too long. The only solution is to cut back drastically, save money, and default on loans that can't be paid back.9/14/2009 5:40:06 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that guy is probably in a union joe. He has the look" |
no way, dude. you obviously don't have a clue. i guarantee you that guy, like every other good ol boy southern nascar redneck, is vehemently anti-union.
i know these people. i worked construction for years in NC and the southeast, any "moran" union agitator will get their ass beat and run off the site, so that guy and his buds can continue to enjoy their god-given right to make $10-12.00/hr as a "journeyman"
LOL.9/14/2009 5:52:38 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
9/14/2009 7:43:18 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
not that this is at all relevant to this thread, but
Quote : | "every other good ol boy southern nascar redneck, is vehemently anti-union
i know these people. i worked construction for years in NC and the southeast" |
working a good bit in construction myself, i've met a number of liberal northerners, who come down to north carolina for work, because their local northern economies have taken away their jobs, thanks to unionization
hey look, my anecdotal evidence completely contradicts yours9/14/2009 7:48:52 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
not really, though. 9/14/2009 7:55:32 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Hilariousterrifying.
9/14/2009 8:17:15 PM |
volex All American 1758 Posts user info edit post |
i suppose its less terrifying to do your protesting about protesters on the internets 9/14/2009 8:59:04 PM |