Should this guy get an ass beating??? SURE!

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"Why do you people argue with complete asshats like HUR, TULIPlovr and d357r0y3r? They've proven themselves to be devoid of value as human beings in the first place.""

nice troll, considering I have not replied to any posts in this thread since the OP fucking faggot. Maybe someone should have tipped off the FBI because I showed up to a halloween party dressed up as a Cop. Fact is this guy was at a party/reunion dressed in "costume" as a marine. If he was giving interviews on CBS, sneaking onto bases, trying to get scholarships (like that chick from Meredith who faked being an army captain), or conducting business under pretenses of impersonating a marine than I would see a reason for the FBI to look into the issue.

People lie all the damn time at high school reunions. Such as the guy that claims to drive a Porsche that he rented for the weekend or the nerd who pretends the girl he looked up on an escort service is his girlfriend.

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 3:03 PM. Reason : w]

11/15/2009 3:02:27 PM

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"Maybe someone should have tipped off the FBI because I showed up to a halloween party dressed up as a Cop. Fact is this guy was at a party/reunion dressed in "costume" as a marine. If he was giving interviews on CBS, sneaking onto bases, trying to get scholarships (like that chick from Meredith who faked being an army captain), or conducting business under pretenses of impersonating a marine than I would see a reason for the FBI to look into the issue. "

Somehow when you dressed like a cop for your halloween party I doubt you ran a blog for months before hand talking about your experiences bringing down the scum of society. I also doubt you bought yourself two different cop uniforms, took pictures of yourself just outside of a police station in uniform and wrote letters to news papers expressing your concerns as a cop on the streets.

11/15/2009 5:19:18 PM

I support the prosecution of this guy. God knows the liberals out there get to burn the flag and disrespect our armed forces. Soldiers need some form of acknowledgement for their sacrifice and if that means some dipshit commie can't wear a replica of their medals to a halloween party, well... tough shit. go burn a flag if you're that desperate to disrespect your country

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 5:23 PM. Reason : s]

11/15/2009 5:22:53 PM

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"of yourself just outside of a police station in uniform and wrote letters to news papers expressing your concerns as a cop on the streets."

I did not look taht much into the issue but if this douche was really doing this, he would meet the criteria i mentioned above for justifying FBI investigation.

11/15/2009 5:42:10 PM

I forgot to mention that the chick who turned this guy in should have told him about the law instead of turning him in... It might have been an innocent mistake on his part

If he knew about the law and flouted it anyway, then throw away the key. Let him rot.

11/15/2009 5:53:19 PM

"I didn't know" is not a valid excuse for breaking the law.

Complete disrespect to the military aside, there is a purpose for this law beyond 'preserving' the honor of the military. They put this law into effect because there were numerous cases of people using their 'status' as a supposed veteran for perks. People were getting towns to throw parades for them, veterans' benefits abuse, etc. So, in of itself, does me standing there in a marine uniform saying "I've been to the sandbox three times" harm others? Not really, but enough people have taken it beyond mere posturing that the government decided to just nip it in the bud by making the whole shebang illegal.

Is that an acceptable, level-headed explanation?

On an unrelated note, military Halloween costumes have always struck me as completely tacky.

11/15/2009 7:33:33 PM

^ I wasn't trying to say it was an excuse - I just meant, socially speaking, it would have been a kinder thing for the woman to let the guy know it was illegal before busting him.

That being said, I just read the thread and see how this guy had a whole persona created and that this was not just some random halloween costume he threw together. F him. She did the right thing in this situation, given the fact that he clearly premeditated a military-hero persona that went beyond any single night event.

11/15/2009 7:37:01 PM

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""I didn't know" is not a valid excuse for breaking the law."

That is the best possible excuse for breaking a law, and it's perfectly valid. Of course, courts will never recognize that.

When the feds can't even count the number of laws on the books, nor even have a room big enough for all the books that contain them, and the IRS can't even consistently interpret its own code, ignorance of the law is perfectly valid as a moral excuse for non-compliance. There isn't a government official in the nation who is aware of more than some small percentage of the laws on the books.

11/15/2009 8:01:24 PM

bullshit. Have you ever heard of "Ignorance of the law is no excuse"?

11/15/2009 8:16:06 PM

Yes, I've heard that a lot. But it's bullshit.

It is true that ignorance of the law is no excuse in today's courts. But it ought to be an excuse.

I'm quite certain I break plenty of laws every day that could add up to serious penalties - I just don't know what they are. And in a lot of cases it's completely unreasonable to expect me to know.

Far too often a prosecutor simply hears of someone doing something they see as shady or wrong, and then they have to scour their law books to find some way to construe it as a crime. And there is just such a wealth of these laws - that any prosecutor can seriously harass any individual in society at his own whim. It's a famous method of testing the mettle of future prosecutors - give them a name of a famous and law-abiding person, and make them find the law that would help convict them. And the prosecutors win that game every time.

Shoot, just take a look at all the funny websites or games that say, "In Duluth Minnesota, did you know it is illegal to wear a cowboy hat into a toy store on Tuesdays?"

These are extreme examples, but they make the point. There are hundreds of thousands of laws (federal, state, local) that restrict behavior in the oddest ways. As I said before, there is no government official that can even claim to know a fraction of just the federal codes. Ignorance of the law is a perfectly valid excuse.

11/15/2009 10:04:22 PM

Slippery slope. If you could use that as an excuse to absolve yourself of responsibility, all hell would break loose.

"The pipeline exploded and killed seven people, and the explosion was linked to this pressure valve; a pressure valve that you were responsible for monitoring. Why didn't you close it?"

"I didn't know I was supposed to."

If you're getting yourself involved in any sort of activity, it's your responsibility to read and understand your responsibilities. Otherwise we could all simply blow off responsibility by claiming ignorance.

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 10:44 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2009 10:44:06 PM

It's not a slippery slope, because there are rational ways to stop the slope. Certainly included in that would be a judicial understanding that if you are actively pursuing a particular activity, the burden is on you to make sure you know the major, relevant law to that activity.

The situation is entirely different for the many people who get ensnared by ambiguous circumstance, minding their own business or doing nothing abnormal or unreasonable, and not doing something that any reasonable person would expect to be illegal, and yet they get caught up in arbitrary enforcement of an obscure law.

11/15/2009 10:50:42 PM

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"Certainly included in that would be a judicial understanding that if you are actively pursuing a particular activity, the burden is on you to make sure you know the major, relevant law to that activity."

So one might say that if you are actively pursuing the particular activity of fraudulently representing yourself as a highly decorated member of the US armed forces, you should know the major, relevant law to that activity?

11/15/2009 11:06:37 PM

There should also be a provision for laws that are common knowledge. This one is clearly common knowledge, and I'm not in any way suggesting that ignorance would be an excuse for the guy in the OP.

11/15/2009 11:38:47 PM

Is it time to page the "dumb laws" webpage that is full of Real laws but most of them are archaic, borderline unconstituional, absurd, or just lack anyway to reasonably enforce.

In NC

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"Oral sex is considered a crime against nature."

oh no turn me into the police!

http://www.dumblaws.com/laws/united-states/north-carolina

11/15/2009 11:42:08 PM

What, you been slobbing a bunch of knob?

11/15/2009 11:45:47 PM

Negative, but i assume this law applies to the receiving end as well lol

As a side note, what are the odds the women who tipped off the FBI was part of the safety patrol or ran to the principals office when she saw people smoking cigarettes behind the gym.

[Edited on November 15, 2009 at 11:47 PM. Reason : l]

11/15/2009 11:46:29 PM

Had a bunch of people dining at your "Y"?

11/15/2009 11:47:10 PM

^^I bet the odds are higher that she knew someone or of someone who had earned the NAVY Cross for going above and beyond the call of duty.

11/16/2009 12:40:32 AM

bunch of goddamned assfuckers in this thread. and by "assfuckers" i mean: HUR, TulipLover, d357r0y3r, aaronburro.

marines and other armed service members do not have authority over civilians, but the military is a function of the federal government and it's illegal to impersonate any member of the federal government, or any member of any organization that is regulated by the federal or state governments.

hence we have the code of federal regulations and various state laws to that effect.

you cant pretend to be a gunnery sergeant or a general. for that matter you cant pretend to be doctor or a professional engineer. if you don't like your own miserable worthless life, and are embarrassed to show up at your 20th reunion to tell everyone you work in a bank, well go fucking kill yourself already.

and i say "outstanding" to the Lt. Cdr. who saw through that poser faggot's ruse and got him busted for it. i hope she gets some sort of commendation. a few rounds of drinks at the O-Club, at least.



[Edited on November 16, 2009 at 12:44 AM. Reason : ]

11/16/2009 12:43:05 AM

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"Oral sex is considered a crime against nature."

not really. all those laws have more or less been invalidated by a supreme court case ruling all sodomy laws to be unconstitutional. sure it may still be on the books, but it would get thrown out by the first judge.

11/16/2009 12:45:25 AM

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"bunch of goddamned assfuckers in this thread. and by "assfuckers" i mean: HUR, TulipLover, d357r0y3r, aaronburro."

yes i am totally an assfucker b.c i thought it was a little absurd that some douche (much like Joe_schmoe) wore a costume to a fucking class reunion. Some other people pointed out that it went beyond this because he was posting blogs and doing various other shit up and beyond just attending a reunion. Activities that 3 pages later after the OP i acknowledged; "oh maybe this dipshit did deserve what he got".

So suck my balls asshat and go back to sipping lattes in your gay rainy city while reading about how shitty the seahawks sucks.

11/16/2009 7:42:34 AM

This is the one dude I know with a Navy Cross. He's absolutely cool as shit (and completley nuts in every way).

http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/chontosh.asp

11/16/2009 11:21:40 PM

that.

is fucking awesome.

11/18/2009 12:14:35 AM