The Peppers situation is going to be a big story for at least the next month

2/9/2010 4:30:27 PM

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"You refuse to even acknowledge that next season could be a capped year. Second, what free agents did we sign last year? None because ALL OUR MONEY WAS IN PEPPERS"

I've said 2010 is likely to be uncapped....there is still a month before franchise players have to be declared, which is around the same time we will know for sure if 2010 will be uncapped. I agree, if by some miracle, the two sides come to agreement and 2010 is capped, it would probably be too much of a gamble to franchise him...But that is looking less likely each day.

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"WE can't find a trade partner because he won't sign his tender. It's illegal for the Panthers to have any discussions about Peppers to other teams! Were you paying attention at all last year? Only his agent can talk to other teams."

he will do exactly like he did last year and wait till camp to sign....then WE look for a trade partner, if they haven't already got a deal worked by then.

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"From the Redskins, the worst money team in the NFL and they have 20% of their cap counted for one DT. Snyder is an overpaying idiot."

agreed, but for another example, freeney got over 31 mil guar from Indy in '07 (and if i remember correctly, this is the deal the panthers beat when they offered peppers long term a few years ago)

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"he already did last year and now he is real pissed. Why would the guy not take control of where he wanted to go?"

He signed his offer right before training camp...otherwise he couldn't have played. It's not up to him to take control if we franchise him again....its either don't play/get paid in 2010 or sign if we franchise him.

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"I don't think you were paying very much attention last year as all this was covered less than 12 months ago."

no, I was...and I seem to remember a bitchfest similar to the current one at first...Followed by him signing the offer before camp, falling in line and having a great season.

2/9/2010 4:47:56 PM

im fuckin pumped about next season there cant possibly be a reason to start Delhomme

2/9/2010 4:49:29 PM

Umm.....no one can pull off a Bojangles commercial quite as good as Jake 'the Snake' Delhomme.


I hope Peppers signs with some team like Oakland and where he can take plays off and no one will even care anymore.

[Edited on February 9, 2010 at 6:55 PM. Reason : CATSUP]

2/9/2010 6:54:17 PM

so fenway....

and no one cares about your opinion

2/9/2010 8:06:47 PM

N00B FIGHT!!1

2/9/2010 8:07:41 PM

^its going to get epic

2/9/2010 8:09:10 PM

NOOB FIGHT'S GETTIN' HARD CORE BOYS. FOR REEEEALZ.

Seriously though, Peppers can go fuck himself. We don't need any Tarhole players on the field anymore. Use that 20 million to fix other areas.

2/9/2010 9:15:34 PM

does anyone know the top 'peppers replacement' DEs we would be in the market for? Im sure we can sign a WR2 with that much extra $$ as well.

2/9/2010 9:17:13 PM

Seymour?

2/9/2010 9:18:40 PM

I wouldn't mind Osi Umenyiora

2/9/2010 9:22:00 PM

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"he will do exactly like he did last year and wait till camp to sign....then WE look for a trade partner, if they haven't already got a deal worked by then."

once camp rolls around its too late to start looking for trade deals since everyone's already spent their money elsewhere

2/9/2010 10:32:41 PM

^Again, if there is no cap, that won't be an issue.

2/10/2010 8:56:34 AM

There is an ESPN insider article on the front page that reads "Browns, Eagles linked to Peppers"

Anybody got insider that would care to post said article?

2/10/2010 10:48:29 AM

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"The big question related to Julius Peppers now is not who wants him, but who doesn't. One team that might want to sign him long-term -- his current team, the Panthers -- likely won't have that opportunity. Peppers was on WFNZ radio (per the Rock Hill Herald), and when asked about a long-term deal with the team, he said, "Last year, at the time, that was the option that I wanted most. But now it's not." Beat writer Darin Gantt noted in the wake of the interview hitting the airwaves that "it's becoming more and more clear that Peppers isn't going to be here next year." One intriguing possibility is for the Panthers to franchise Peppers and then trade him; by doing this, it may actually increase his market, according to Albert Breer of the Boston Globe. A team that is bound by the restrictive "Final Eight Rule" can circumvent that edict and get their hands on the DE by way of a trade. If Peppers hits unrestricted free agency, those teams would have difficult hurdles to clear to land him. Update: senior NFL analyst Chris Mortensen made a splash on Twitter on Tuesday afternoon, naming the Browns as a "sleeper" for Peppers, based on Holmgren's past pursuit of Reggie White, and the fact that they'll have the cash."

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"Anyone not interested? * With solid bookends in both DE slots, the Vikings are unlikely. * Likewise, there's no good spot for him in Indy, with Robert Mathis and Dwight Freeney on the ends. * One could argue that with all the money tied up with Terrell Suggs, the Ravens wouldn't be interested, but owner Steve Bisciotti said on Wednesday that the team wanted to boost the pass rush this offseason. * DallasCowboys.com writers have insinuated that the Cowboys will pass as well. "

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"So Julius Peppers wants out of Carolina -- again? This time, I think he’s going to get his wish. Peppers said the Panthers have been silent about their plans. He can become an unrestricted free agent unless the Panthers use the franchise tag on him for a second straight season. That’s going to cost more than $20 million. I still think there’s a chance the Panthers may use the tag on Peppers, but trade him before they have to pay him. Where does Peppers end up? There’s been speculation about New England and Philadelphia and there were rumblings about Dallas last year. But I’ve got a suggestion. Actually it comes from television colleague Ed Werder. As we rode down in the elevator at our hotel yesterday, Ed suggested the Saints should sign Peppers because they could use an elite pass rusher to go with Will Smith. Not saying it will happen or that the Saints are interested in Peppers. But I think they should at least ponder Werder’s idea and I think New Orleans would be a good spot for Peppers. First, the Saints are the champions, so he’d be going to a very good team. More importantly, Peppers could finally maximize his potential. Peppers is a guy who a lot of people say takes plays off. New Orleans defensive coordinator Gregg Williams is a guy who doesn’t let players take plays off. He lit a fire under Smith and Charles Grant this season. Imagine what he could do with Peppers?"

2/10/2010 10:50:41 AM

Thanks Slave

It would be worst case scenario for the Panthers if Peppers ends up in the NFC South. I'd much rather ship him to Cleveland or somewhere else in the AFC so we don't have see him on the regular.

How feasible is a straight up Brandon Marshall for Peppers trade? Peppers would be a beast opposite Dumervil and Marshall/Smitty would become the most formidable WR tandem in the NFL. Couple that with our run game and that offense would be nearly unstoppable in theory.

2/10/2010 11:02:26 AM

I'd do it, but Matt Moore has to put together more than 3 good games before I'd label our offense "unstoppable." (although adding Marshall would tremendously help that).

And holy shit, I'd feel bad for any QB trying to pass on Denver next season.

2/10/2010 11:17:32 AM

he actually put together 5 good games, going 4-1 with 8 TDs and only 1 pick. that right there tells me he's both aggressive and can protect the ball

2/10/2010 11:22:13 AM

Hardly ever see trades like that in the NFL. Not that they can't happen, but something about the cap and the way contracts are structured make them nearly impossible. That would be best case scenario for that to happen IMO. I have a feeling that we are gonna hold out for something unreasonable for too long and then make a last minute draft trade for some low level picks.

2/10/2010 11:25:17 AM

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"It would be worst case scenario for the Panthers if Peppers ends up in the NFC South. I'd much rather ship him to Cleveland or somewhere else in the AFC so we don't have see him on the regular."

Agreed, which is another reason we should franchise him...So we can 'steer him' to an acceptable team.

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"How feasible is a straight up Brandon Marshall for Peppers trade? Peppers would be a beast opposite Dumervil and Marshall/Smitty would become the most formidable WR tandem in the NFL. Couple that with our run game and that offense would be nearly unstoppable in theory."

I'd rather see them work on a trade with SD for V. Jackson (if SD would give him up)...Similar players but Jackson doesn't have the attitude problems.

I think they will both be FAs this off season though, which might complicate things some.

[Edited on February 10, 2010 at 11:32 AM. Reason : .]

2/10/2010 11:30:46 AM

I'd like to trade him to Arizona for Boldin and a draft pick

2/10/2010 12:21:48 PM

Boldin & a Draft pick would be Nice
Marshall straight up would be Nice

I just don't want to miss an opportunity to make a move with Peppers and see him literally walk with nothing in return.

And hell yeah, we def need him out of the NFC South...



III

2/10/2010 12:55:23 PM

probably not the Saints....read below....or any other good team....no salary cap, these are the rules....have fun Peppers!

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". What is the Final Eight Plan? A. During the Final League Year, the eight clubs that make the Divisional Playoffs in the previous season (NFC: Arizona, Dallas, Minnesota, New Orleans; AFC: Baltimore, Indianapolis, N.Y. Jets, San Diego) have additional restrictions that limit their ability to sign unrestricted free agents from other clubs. In general, the four clubs participating in the championship games are limited in the number of free agents that they may sign; the limit is determined by the number of their own free agents signing with other clubs. They cannot sign any UFAs unless one of theirs is signed by another team. For the four clubs that lost in the Divisional Playoffs, in addition to having the ability to sign free agents based on the number of their own free agents signing with other clubs, they may also sign players based on specific financial parameters. Those four only will be permitted to sign one unrestricted free agent for $5.5 million (estimated) or more in year one of the contract, plus the number of their UFAs who sign with another team. They also can sign any unrestricted free agents for less than $3.7 (estimated) million in year one of the contract with limitations on the per year increases. In the case of all final eight teams, the first year salary of UFAs they sign to replace those lost cannot exceed the first year salary of the player lost with limitations on the per year increases."

[Edited on February 10, 2010 at 3:19 PM. Reason : w]

2/10/2010 3:17:51 PM

i am slowly accepting the fact that we are not going to receive anything for him, and he'll go land a mega buck contract with some other team, just like albert haynesworth.

it happens.

o well.


the hell with that jackass.

2/10/2010 3:59:17 PM

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"I'd rather see them work on a trade with SD for V. Jackson (if SD would give him up)...Similar players but Jackson doesn't have the attitude problems"

why in the hell would the chargers want to make that trade? It would be great for us to get a receiver of his caliber, but no way it happens.

Did you hear rumors that the Chargers are trying to get rid of Jackson or something?

2/10/2010 4:58:51 PM

^^ at this point im just ecstatic of opening up the cap space

but i guess that really doesn't matter too much this upcoming season

2/10/2010 5:00:26 PM

^^ no

wlb420 has proven that he doesn't know much about anything

2/10/2010 5:08:16 PM

I made a trade in my Madden franchise last year

Panthers send: Julius Peppers, Jake Delhomme, 1st round pick
Chargers send: Shawn Merrimann, Philip Rivers

But I also traded Jonathan Stewart and Jeff King for Mario Williams so yeah whatever

2/10/2010 5:17:57 PM

I dont understand why/how our front office couldn't make sure they strategize to get something from losing peppers. fanbase is already so low on them, that would murder them.

2/10/2010 7:29:28 PM

While I'd love to get a great player for Pep, or at least some draft picks, letting him walk would at least open up a shit ton of salary cap space

We could afford 2-3 more very good players if he walks

2/10/2010 7:41:52 PM

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"Did you hear rumors that the Chargers are trying to get rid of Jackson or something?"

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/jan/29/1s29chargers/

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"the Chargers’ decision to take a wait-and-see approach in regards to his long-term future with the team. "

He'll be a FA this off season (albeit restricted) and the Chargers aren't exactly rushing to sign him long term. Not to mention he's had a couple DUIs and might be suspended for a few games next year. They're probably just waiting to see what offers he gets from other teams before they sign him (hence why I said if they would give him up), but it wouldn't hurt to inquire.

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"wlb420 has proven that he doesn't know much about anything"

lol

2/11/2010 2:25:02 PM

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"letting him walk would at least open up a shit ton of salary cap space"

except there's no salary cap this year.

2/11/2010 2:37:07 PM

theres a good chance that the players union and owners structure a new CBA before next season starts

its possible the cap will be less next year than it was this past season

2/11/2010 2:37:49 PM

lol How many times is TreeTwista going to bring up that Madden trade?

2/11/2010 2:48:42 PM

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"While I'd love to get a great player for Pep, or at least some draft picks, letting him walk would at least open up a shit ton of salary cap space We could afford 2-3 more very good players if he walks"

Exactly. There may not be a cap next year, but it still frees up a lot of cash that his play isn't earning.

2/11/2010 2:50:04 PM

^^any time a Panthers/Chargers trade is rumored

2/11/2010 3:05:26 PM

lol front page of NFC South blog on ESPN has talk about McNabb coming to Carolina

it'd be sick but i'm not getting my hopes up

2/15/2010 9:42:29 PM

Mehhh ... doesn't excite me too much. McNabb is good and all, but I just have a hard time seeing him on the Panthers. I'd rather draft a rookie like Dan Lefevour in the 2nd-3rd and see what we have in Moore. Maybe it's just me though.

2/15/2010 10:06:27 PM

Fuck that

Sign McNabb AND draft Lefevour

If nothing else happens, that position has to be taken care of this offseason.

2/15/2010 10:25:29 PM

if we're going to draft someone at qb, i dont know if the panthers can justify giving up draft picks or whatever for mcnabb while we have moore around who has proven to be servicable. we already don't have a 1st and whatever we gave up for tank.


[Edited on February 15, 2010 at 10:34 PM. Reason : definitely agree with drafting dan lefevour]

2/15/2010 10:34:15 PM

We do have an unsettled commodity in Julius Peppers that the Eagles might be willing to trade for McNabb.

We might actually be able to pick up him AND a pick from the Eagles for Pep.

2/16/2010 10:24:28 AM

If you trade for McNabb, you aren't drafting a QB in the 2nd-3rd rounds (especially when you don't have a first rounder). If they get McNabb (or Kolb, who I think would be a better pickup), they'd be better off using those higher picks to address more immediate needs while drafting a guy like Matt Nichols in a later round, someone a little more raw who will need a few years anyways (behind your new starter and Moore, who is clearly, at worst, a serviceable backup)

2/16/2010 1:00:55 PM

All that makes sense, except for that Philly would never part with Kolb

He's been handpicked and groomed to be the future for that franchise by Andy Reid

2/16/2010 1:07:16 PM

I know McNabb is proven, but why do you want to invest so much in a 33.5 year old QB? i mean yeah it worked out kind of in Minnesota this year, but its not a long term solution

2/16/2010 1:08:45 PM

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"Sign McNabb AND draft Lefevour"

2/16/2010 1:10:19 PM

bring back Stefon LeFors. savior.

2/16/2010 4:16:23 PM

There is an insider article on espn about the Patriots being the favorites for Peppers. Can someone post it?

2/16/2010 4:30:36 PM

Moore is gonna be an restricted FA this off season. I've been hearing that some other teams are interested in him and the panthers might have to pay him some relatively big money to keep him around....I hope they do, but I could see them doing some dumb shit and not matching an offer from another team.

2/16/2010 4:31:24 PM

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"There is an insider article on espn about the Patriots being the favorites for Peppers. Can someone post it?"

howaboutno


In unrelated news, Darrell Green is still faster than most active NFL players (4.43 forty time on his 50th bday)

2/16/2010 6:12:21 PM

John Clayton about to talk about Delhomme

"it looks like Jake Delhomme still might be back"

[Edited on February 16, 2010 at 6:17 PM. Reason : oh lawd]

2/16/2010 6:16:59 PM