Skinner out at BC according to the radio

3/30/2010 8:44:51 AM

^ If true that is good for the rest of the ACC IMO. Skinner has always seemed like a coach that got the most out of his players/teams. It could turn out to be another TOB situation though where another coach comes in and has some success with the prior coaches players. It will be interesting to see who BC gets to replace him.

3/30/2010 8:52:58 AM

I'm seeing a lot of "St. John's set to hire Steve Lavin"

So they actually got a coach finally.

And an actual college coach, they didn't have to get bailed out by an almost-alumnus.

(no matter what happens with the BBall program, never forget that Lowe seriously bailed us out when Fowler had botched the search, Lowe could have easily stayed in the NBA).

3/30/2010 8:53:21 AM

on skinner:

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/ncb/news/story?id=5039956

3/30/2010 9:05:43 AM

^^ Wow that is pretty embarassing to us if Lavin turned us down and now is taking the St. John's job. Maybe four years ago he was not ready to coach again?

3/30/2010 9:10:32 AM

lol are we sure Fowler isn't pulling the strings at St. John's as well

3/30/2010 9:46:38 AM

With Lavin, I think he (1) wasn't ready to come back and (2) definitely thought there was a better situation he could have come in to. I doubt he thinks St. John's is a better job than NC State.

4 years down the road he's realizing that he's not even close to a hot commodity anymore and that this might be the best chance he has for coaching a somewhat big time program again.

3/30/2010 10:25:15 AM

Lavin is from the west coast (San Francisco) and he's married to an actress. I'm sure the glitz and glamour of NYC would be an attraction for him, though I have my doubts on just how glitzy and glamoury the St. Johns job might be. Still though, I think he'd fit in a lot better there than he would have at NC State.

3/30/2010 10:26:46 AM

if you are a coach at BC, you aren't allowed to even think about leaving to coach anywhere else

3/30/2010 10:27:37 AM

I have to ask what coach exactly does BC think they are going to get?

St. John's is a program with a proud tradition who has come on hard times and isn't nearly as attractive as they think.

Boston College is a program with a tradition of point shaving and losing big games and is every bit as unattractive as everyone thinks.

^^ It's a lot of pandering to scummy AAU handlers.

[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 11:30 AM. Reason : x]

3/30/2010 11:29:48 AM

BC sucks

[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 11:35 AM. Reason : x]

3/30/2010 11:34:54 AM

Can someone remind me why we picked up BC again?

[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 11:42 AM. Reason : ]

3/30/2010 11:42:10 AM

because swofford is a fucking moron.

3/30/2010 12:19:20 PM

that AD for BC has some serious issues. Keeps canning coaches just for interviewing at other places. If that is the new MO there, they are gonna have a hard time attracting anyone.

3/30/2010 12:59:52 PM

BC pulls a HERB SENDEK

they have been to the tourney 7 out of the last 9 years.....

3/30/2010 1:15:22 PM

Tim Floyd to UTEP

[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 1:27 PM. Reason : how much $$$ to get an OJ Majo-caliber recruit to go to El Paso?]

3/30/2010 1:26:53 PM

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"Tim Floyd to UTEP"

Damn, I would have thought the fallout from the USC debacle would have kept him from getting a job for at least a couple more seasons. Also, LOL at BC for firing Skinner because he talked to St. Johns.

[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 1:47 PM. Reason : .]

3/30/2010 1:46:14 PM

i can hear it now: "all al skinner did was make the tournament year after year at boston college, and they fired him".

3/30/2010 1:51:55 PM

as a stepchild of the ACC, that's not bad....

3/30/2010 1:58:21 PM

^^except it'll sound more like this "BC's Athletics Director took a principled stand against the disloyalty and greed rampant in the basketball coaching profession"

[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 1:58 PM. Reason : .]

3/30/2010 1:58:25 PM

Al Skinner will do just fine. If he can't get a coaching gig he can always be an 80s sitcom character. Now who does BC get? Steve Donahue (Cornell coach)? Tommy Amaker?

3/30/2010 1:59:36 PM

ahahaha, I like how nobody believes Defilipo's claim that Skinner was let go before he interviewed at St. Johns. What a douche.

At least we can say we have the second worst AD in the country.

3/30/2010 2:03:07 PM

Good lord Amaker would be a terrible hire.

3/30/2010 2:11:02 PM

I hear Dereck Whittenburg is looking for a job...

3/30/2010 3:23:26 PM

tubby smith supposedly offered oregon job

3/30/2010 3:29:26 PM

Stevie Lavin To st. johns

good pickup...he had some incredibly talented classes at UCLA. Interesting that we talked to him and he turned us down and now that St. Johns offers he accepts.

3/30/2010 3:40:04 PM

^
Are you trolling? The guy was able to recruit...to U C L A.

Plus I'm not sure how serious or mutual the interest was in Lavin and NC State. I remember him floating and self promoting his own name for the job, Wolfpackers flipping out that we would consider the guy (considering he has a terrible reputation for work ethic and Xs and Os), and then backing off from both sides.

Beilein turned us down, supposedly because we reached a verbal agreement on how to handle the buyout then changed the terms of the offer to force him to take the tax hit up front.

3/30/2010 4:08:37 PM

Yeah but we got the last laugh when Sidney Bartholomew Lowe signed on the line that is dotted on that sixth day of May in 2006

3/30/2010 4:14:57 PM

[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 4:19 PM. Reason : ]

3/30/2010 4:19:32 PM

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"(no matter what happens with the BBall program, never forget that Lowe seriously bailed us out when Fowler had botched the search, Lowe could have easily stayed in the NBA)."

3/30/2010 4:19:32 PM

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"The guy was able to recruit...to U C L A."

Exactly, and didn't Baron Davis say something to the effect of "we were the only team to make it to the Sweet Sixteen without a coach"

[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 4:23 PM. Reason : .]

3/30/2010 4:21:22 PM

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"Plus I'm not sure how serious or mutual the interest was in Lavin and NC State."

There was no interest from our end. We were never serious about him being coach here. His name may have been floated around at some point, but it never got anywhere close to the point where he could have been coach.

He essentially took himself out of the running even though we never invited him INTO the running.



[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 4:25 PM. Reason : ]

3/30/2010 4:24:55 PM

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"^^except it'll sound more like this "BC's Athletics Director took a principled stand against the disloyalty and greed rampant in the basketball coaching profession" "

Where is this coming from. What I saw was that they agreed to this over a week ago and he asked BC to keep quiet until after he'd interviewed with St. John's.

Was he interviewing with other schools prior to that?

<-- out of the loop

3/30/2010 4:31:48 PM

My recollection is that he publicly named himself as a candidate for the job even though we never approached him. Having ESPN as your mouthpiece has its benefits.

^
It's Gene DeFilippo, who has the biggest inferiority complex and personality conflicts with coaches of any AD in college sports. He fired Jagz for talking to Tampa Bay, so whether or not that is what happened this time noone believes him.

[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]

3/30/2010 4:33:01 PM

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"What I saw was that they agreed to this over a week ago and he asked BC to keep quiet until after he'd interviewed with St. John's."

That's what the article I read said as well, but I'm not buying it. It just seems totally incongruous with what they've done to other coaches.

3/30/2010 4:37:37 PM

Andy Katz said that is not the story coming from Skinner's camp. Basically the BC AD is a lying cunt and made a bad decision to fire Skinner.


[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 4:43 PM. Reason : l']

3/30/2010 4:39:29 PM

Hey, maybe we should snag Skinner?

I kid...

we can still wait for Brad Stevens next year.

[Edited on March 30, 2010 at 6:10 PM. Reason : .]

3/30/2010 6:07:52 PM

Jordan Collins!

3/30/2010 6:15:10 PM

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"we can still wait for Brad Stevens next year."

haha we can always dream, can't we? Oregon is fucking dumb if they don't snag him, but they've got some weird shit going on in their athletics department with the Mike Belloti resignation/buyout so who knows.

3/30/2010 6:31:26 PM

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"Basically the BC AD is a lying cunt"

are you somehow taking this personally?

3/30/2010 10:21:12 PM

Reading that Lavin is going to have Leitao on his staff. Despite what you guys think about him guy was an awesome asst. coach and a great recruiter in the area. Good move, if true.

He is going to turn them around. Not sure what their ceiling is but they'll, at the very least, be respectable again.

[Edited on March 31, 2010 at 9:25 AM. Reason : x]

3/31/2010 9:25:17 AM

ESPN posted a hilarious article about the BC Coaching search:http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/news/story?id=5043472

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"At a news conference Tuesday, DeFilippo said the team's shrinking fan base convinced him to make a move. He said he wants a coach who works hard, promotes an aggressive style of play, and one who relates well to the players, the other students on campus and the alumni."

I can't wait for their retard AD to proclaim that "the fun is back" in BC basketball. Also that article says that they might be pursuing a women's coach (such as Pat Summit).

3/31/2010 1:31:26 PM

Brad Stevens isnt going anywhere right now unless someone offers him a shit ton
hes from that area and all of his family and friends growing up still live there

Drew might would leave Baylor but not Stevens right now.

From what i've read most people in the BC arena are happy about this firing. There have been others that have said Al is lazy as hell and runs the HC job like CEO and the asst. coaches do EVERYTHING

3/31/2010 3:34:50 PM

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"Brad Stevens isnt going anywhere right now unless someone offers him a shit ton"

Oregon has plenty of money, it's just a matter of if Jamie Dixon turns them down or not.

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"From what i've read most people in the BC arena are happy about this firing. There have been others that have said Al is lazy as hell and runs the HC job like CEO and the asst. coaches do EVERYTHING"

I'm sure all 4 BC fans are pleased, but they shouldn't be. The whole "he's lazy and doesn't do any work" thing is a valid criticism, but coming from DeFillipo it comes off as yet another in the long line of unnecessary bitchfests about former BC coaches. This motherfucker has got to be the MOST difficult AD to work for in the country, and BC isn't an attractive job anyway so they'll be luck to get a halfway competent replacement. Also, it sounds like they are only going to hire a coach that runs some sort of uptempo offense because the flex is apparently too boring for their 4 fans. God they are a bunch of entitled, faggot ass whiners.

3/31/2010 3:48:28 PM

If they try to run an uptempo offense they are going to get ran out of the gym come ACC time. With their shitty facilities they aren't going to attract the type of athletes needed to run that time of system. That's why Skinner's flex offense worked fairly well (I mean they beat UNC in Chapel Hill when they won the NC, hell when was the last time we won in Chapel Hill). BC's players weren't the most athletic, but they were very skilled and played smart. Skinner was known for finding diamonds in the rough.

3/31/2010 6:51:35 PM

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"Also, it sounds like they are only going to hire a coach that runs some sort of uptempo offense because the flex Princeton offense is apparently too boring for their 4 fans. God they are a bunch of entitled, faggot ass whiners."

Sounds familiar...

3/31/2010 6:52:39 PM

Difference being that NC State has more than 4 fans, has a rich tradition surpassed by only a select few programs, has facilities that are on par and in some cases better than the blue bloods of college basketball, and is one of the most profitable programs in the NCAA (4th in 2005 http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=2337810). You can't compare NC State and BC's programs. They are in totally different realms.




vs.




[Edited on March 31, 2010 at 7:37 PM. Reason : ]

3/31/2010 7:17:38 PM

btw it's not 2005

3/31/2010 7:26:11 PM

It's not like the numbers have changed much. When Forbes did their run down of the most valuable programs we were tied with UCLA.

3/31/2010 7:38:09 PM

I can't imagine our profitability has actually improved, though, with our gradual descent into the shitter

3/31/2010 7:47:41 PM