paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
okay NOW i'm done with this thread again.
kill it with fire
peace and love to all of you, even the bad tippers 1/27/2010 1:03:36 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
p.s. i love the autograt button 1/27/2010 1:04:31 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
I dont think theyre being cheap asses
and no, i tip well, i also give bums on the street a few dollars when i got it
thats not relevant, whats relevant is that leaving the minimum standard tip on a bill is considered cheap. Its bare minimum, yea, but its not cheap.
why dont you do the classy thing and put a sign on the door saying that the bar minimum is 20% and if they aint ballin they can fuck off and go to sammys
or maybe make you waitstaff do a better job?? its not like they left a dollar on the bill
Quote : | "Ok. So what's the solution? Start giving a 20% tip just to hear complaints about how we should be tipping 25%. Then tip 25% just to have servers complain about not getting 30% tips.
Seems like the typical response to work related complaints in this economy is a snarky "at least you have a job". I guess that applies in this scenario as well." |
thats basically whats been happening
ha i like that your done with the thread, like your word is fuckin bond or something
[Edited on January 27, 2010 at 1:05 PM. Reason : f]1/27/2010 1:04:43 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
I would posit that the bad tippers have never worked a day in their life and/or believe themselves to be entitled. 1/27/2010 1:04:45 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
I've worked in the service industry, so I feel for ya, but really, if someone leave's 15%, you better be fucking ecstatic. But I agree, 15% is the bare minimum.
"if you can't afford an appropriate tip, you can't afford to go out"
15% is appropriate. Especially at a bar. It's not like you did that much, really. ESPECIALLY at a place like The Bar, where you walk all of 3 steps to get from the patron to the tap and then back. Don't act like you're really providing that much of a service. Ok, MAYBE when you mix a drink, but even then...
[Edited on January 27, 2010 at 1:08 PM. Reason : .] 1/27/2010 1:04:58 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
the bad waiters have never worked a real job in their lives and believe themselves to be entitled to more money than they oft deserve
its not my problem, i tip well, but im not gonna look over another nigga bill and judge him because he leaves less money than I did
thats bullshit
[Edited on January 27, 2010 at 1:07 PM. Reason : f] 1/27/2010 1:06:37 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
I got no problem telling my friend he's cheap. and because he's my friend, he'd probably say "yeah, I know", and we'd laugh it off.
meanwhile you're in here rationalizing how cheap you are 1/27/2010 1:13:30 PM |
sylvershadow All American 7049 Posts user info edit post |
t Quote : | "that we were there at the table and ordering something other than the cheap wings made it ok for her to bogart off our presence. we were subsidizing the cost of being served at a restaurant" |
or she wanted to hang w/ friends and not spend alot of money or didn't want to drink, or wasn't that hungry.
How many people go out to eat by themselves anyways? Of course she wasn't going to show up alone. And you weren't subsidizing anything. Now it'd be a different story if you went to a mexican restaurant, she came and ate all your chips and then left.1/27/2010 1:13:48 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
well I'm sure she's glad we were there so she could come in and spend $2.50 to feed herself 1/27/2010 1:17:58 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
i go out to eat at buffets alone
in fact i go to the wing bar at wild wings during lunch and pound wings all by myself in a booth 1/27/2010 1:18:48 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
that does sound kind of nice 1/27/2010 1:20:15 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I think the amount you tip is a direct correlation to how good of a person you are...with rare exceptions (and with monetary limitations as well). 1/27/2010 1:32:38 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is something I wish more people understood. I'm not chastising you or calling you an asshole, it's something you just don't know and I'm about to drop some knowledge. " |
I understand how the fucking system works and why it is like it is. What you don't seem to understand is that I don't agree with the system. I don't agree that tips are something that's expected.
Do I leave tips? Yes. I do. If the service was as I expect, they get the 15%. If the service was shit, the're lucky if they get anything.
Go ahead and think that 15% is being cheap. Some of us don't think that a waiter deserves 25% of a bill for bringing drinks, taking our order and bringing the food to us.
Besides, I don't even think tipping is fair for the waiters. They don't know my expectations or my standards to earn a good tip. What they think is beyond what their job entails, I might see as simply them doing their job. Most other jobs, you figure out quickly what your employer expects of you and what you have to do. If you don't do it, you're out on your ass without a job. But at least it's clear and understood what you have to do.
And yes, I will leave 3 bucks on a 20 dollar bill. I'll also leave 30 bucks on a 300 dollar bill too. If the waiter don't like the 3 buck tip, they can work at a higher class restaurant where the menu items are expensive and the people are richer.1/28/2010 12:31:55 AM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
FUCK YAH BRO 1/28/2010 12:20:07 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
the real question here is, do you tip at hibachi style restaurants?
the waiters/waitresses there only take your order and refill your drinks - is that deserving of a tip?
in the past I have left tips for the hibachi cooks and just a couple bucks for the waiters 1/28/2010 12:37:59 PM |
BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
the waitstaff never vouch for the cooks
give them minimum tip out and thats that 1/28/2010 12:44:31 PM |
NCSUALUM Veteran 438 Posts user info edit post |
no longer going to tip anyone at all. This will help pay for health care. 3/24/2010 1:33:03 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
3/24/2010 1:33:47 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
to keep yourselves healthy, you probably shouldn't go out to eat at all. i've been in the restaurant industry for a while now, at a few different establishments, and even I'm amazed at the astronomical amount of salt cooks use...not to mention the pure butter, oil, lard, heavy cream, bacon grease in some recipes, lard & sugar in the desserts.
going to restaurants is not only stupid, financially speaking, but also on a health level 3/24/2010 1:37:44 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
this is very true. i need to get back in the habit of cooking at home. 3/24/2010 1:42:43 PM |
BettrOffDead All American 12559 Posts user info edit post |
LOLZ WHAT ABOUT SWEET TOMATOES 3/24/2010 1:43:22 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
lol Sweet Tomatoes is just a large scale Harris Teeter produce section 3/24/2010 1:45:39 PM |
BettrOffDead All American 12559 Posts user info edit post |
ya but no lardz
SIKE THEIR DESSERTS ARE STILL UNHEALTHY 3/24/2010 1:49:54 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
so are their soups 3/24/2010 1:50:56 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
I always give my waitress just the tip IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN LOL 3/24/2010 1:52:34 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I know it's old but
Quote : | "the dude next to him probably left 10 on 20 which more than makes up for it." |
people really tip that much? damn3/24/2010 1:54:07 PM |
GGMon All American 6462 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if u really suck and/or are rude, ill only tip 10-15%," |
Why would you do this?3/24/2010 1:55:29 PM |
Yodajammies All American 3229 Posts user info edit post |
When did the 15% standard become 20%?
What justifies this increase? 3/24/2010 2:22:09 PM |
BettrOffDead All American 12559 Posts user info edit post |
i grew up tippin 20% for basic good waiters/waitresses
10% at buffets
and more or less based on whether they were super awesome or mega fags 3/24/2010 2:29:00 PM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
Definitely if i'm at some shitty restaurant and my bill is like $6.23 i sure as fuck will tip $1.77 especially since when i eat at shitty places with friends we usually don't spend more than like 25 minutes there after we get food. I'm not about to tip $4 on some cheap ass food. Thats like 28% and you can suck my dick if you want fat tips at some hole in the wall place. Get a real job.
One time a girl i was with bitched because i wrote some shit down like 1.77 and i was like "Lets just say i tipped 1.75 and everyone else did then she just made 7 bucks in like 40 minutes off just one table, not to count whatever 2 dollars she makes an hour plus whatever other table she's waiting."
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.
[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 2:42 PM. Reason : ] 3/24/2010 2:40:18 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think the amount you tip is a direct correlation to how good of a person you are...with rare exceptions " |
I judge people on the same principle3/24/2010 2:41:43 PM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
One time a dude i was with at sammy's left a $20 tip with his number on it and got a date. She wasn't even that hot
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 3/24/2010 2:42:45 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
paerabol i do not tip consistently but i hope i am not a bad tipper thx 3/24/2010 2:44:39 PM |
twwpryderi Suspended 70 Posts user info edit post |
I leave 20% in cash, unless it's really shitty service.
Also, I leave money in hotel rooms for the cleaning staff. Usually it's $10/day given it's a thankless job and they work harder than most wait staff. 3/24/2010 2:44:50 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
frosh you and yours are exempt from the requirement of tipping 3/24/2010 2:46:07 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
I realize this thread is about tipping, which I have no knowledge. Hear me out, 3/24/2010 2:46:37 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
3/24/2010 2:49:50 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
paerabol, I like you but I have to say that its a % for a reason, not a minimum amount + % beyond that . I bussed then waited for awhile in HS and some of college so I have been on the waiter's side in this situation a lot too.
For me: 15% standard if they got the job done, 20%+ if they did an excellent job, <15% if they slacked off, especially at a time when its not really busy.
Only time I completely flat out didn't tip someone was when I went to get lunch somewhere at about 3 in the afternoon. The place was dead and I think the waitress we had only had us or 1 other table at the most. The hostess took our drink orders and brought them to us. The waitress came up and took our orders but she wasnt even the one to deliver the food, the manager did. Later, the girl was just leaning up against the wall flirting with another waiter and I actually had to wave at the waiter she was talking to get her attention to get drink refills and she acted like it was a pain to stop flirting and do her job. The only thing she did was write our order down and bring us the receipt.
[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 3:00 PM. Reason : ] 3/24/2010 2:52:54 PM |
Rat Soup All American 7669 Posts user info edit post |
now that i am gainfully employed i can tip better 3/24/2010 2:59:43 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
i tip on their willingness to get me large amounts of hookups 3/24/2010 3:03:36 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ i'd say that's fair. I make my living off tips and I'm usually waaay too generous when I tip, but I stiffed a guy at Olive Garden few years back because he just sucked that bad. Not busy, not in training, just didn't care about the job. And I wasn't happy about being at the OG to begin with.
But like I've said in this thread multiple times, it really doesn't bother me. I make good money for the work, so I'm not worried about some bad tippers as far as my income's concerned. It's more just interesting to me from a social standpoint, I'm very much a people watcher.
Once in a while though I do get mad. And I love telling people they can have their next beer when they tip me on the last one. You really have to have been a needy douchebag for me to get to that point though, I usually let a lot of shit slide if I think you're cool otherwise.
[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 3:06 PM. Reason : sdfg] 3/24/2010 3:06:09 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "$3 on $20 is not a good tip. " |
I was a bartender and I would say this is MORE than a fair tip.
You are a bartender....not a scientist.
[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 3:08 PM. Reason : ]3/24/2010 3:08:10 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
for the most part, I'm there to spend a certain amount
so if you hook my friends and I up on the tab, I'm probably gonna give you the difference anyway 3/24/2010 3:08:18 PM |
paerabol All American 17118 Posts user info edit post |
okay i should preface the 3 on 20 judgment
if you come up to the bar and order three $7 shots and you leave $3 on $21, yeah i'm absolutely cool with that.
If you spend 3 hours drinking ten $1.50 beers and ordering half-price food, no, $3 on $20 is definitely not a good tip.
[Edited on March 24, 2010 at 3:19 PM. Reason : and for the record, i'm a bartender AND a scientist] 3/24/2010 3:14:51 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
3 bucks for anything up to 10 bucks
5 bucks for anything up to 20 bucks
20 percent thereafter 3/24/2010 3:26:12 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I round to the nearest full dollar amount between 15 and 20 percent.
And have never once felt bad about it when it was closer to 15. 3/24/2010 3:27:22 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
usually 25 - 30%, rounded to the nearest $5 multiple, unless they don't pay attention to my group 3/24/2010 3:29:47 PM |
th3oretecht All American 15539 Posts user info edit post |
I usually tip 20-30 percent even though I'm poor 3/24/2010 3:30:54 PM |
NCSUALUM Veteran 438 Posts user info edit post |
To truly send a message that is understood nearly universally by waiters, leaving a small tip, such as a US penny, if in the United States, is a good way to express your displeasure with the service. This sends the unmistakable signal that, yes, you meant to tip. However, a tip of any substantial value was not warranted.
http://www.wisegeek.com/when-should-you-not-tip-your-waiter.htm
I am going to start leaving just a penny everywhere 5/4/2010 4:30:44 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not talking about the penny/nickel tip here
but when someone just leaves the change, say 77 cents on a bill that's 9.23
i love it when the waiter gives it back, especially if they follow the person out the door to do so
LOVE IT 5/4/2010 4:36:48 PM |