i'm pretty well hung so i'm all for full body scanning

11/15/2010 3:53:44 PM

i wonder if they let you chub up before walking through. if strangers are going to see my wang, i want it to be at it's best

11/15/2010 3:54:21 PM

Look I don't give a shit if people look at my dong, but I do care if the government can limit my ability to travel based on ridiculous commands and violations of the 4th Amendment

The gov't shouldn't demand, essentially, that you strip each time you move locations

11/15/2010 3:54:50 PM

On the subject of the constitution, should I be able to bring my legally registered firearm on board an airplane?

11/15/2010 3:57:05 PM

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" I think they always do same sex pat downs. "

too bad.


seriously though, if I wasn't brown, I would choose the pat down, and act like i was getting off on the procedure to make the TSA goons as uncomfortable as possible. However, being that those morons might think I'm an arab, I'd probably end up getting disappeared.

11/15/2010 3:57:51 PM

If letting a stranger see my dick and ass crack ensures me a safe flight, then I am all for it

11/15/2010 3:58:08 PM

What leads you to believe _that_ ensures you a safe flight?

11/15/2010 3:59:01 PM

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"On the subject of the constitution, should I be able to bring my legally registered firearm on board an airplane?"

Life's dangerous. Do you want to suspend the constitution's protections everywhere cowards like you piss yourself?

I'm curious; since we're all about making our airways and cities safer against attack via plane, do we force wealthy aristocrats with private jets to be subjected to these security measures? Legit curiosity

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"If letting a stranger see my dick and ass crack ensures me a safe flight, then I am all for it"

Oh except it doesn't

It'd be "safer" to allow law enforcement full access to all of your personal info including your personal communications. Should we do that too?

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 4:02 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2010 4:01:16 PM

well nothing ensures a safe flight, if we want to get technical about it

11/15/2010 4:01:53 PM

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"well nothing ensures a safe flight, if we want to get technical about it"

The name of the game, from a sensible planner, is intervening to decrease the probability of incident

All this does is increase the probability some corporation is making more US-LaftaBux on marketing the gov't technology it doesn't need

11/15/2010 4:03:07 PM

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"I'm curious; since we're all about making our airways and cities safer against attack via plane, do we force wealthy aristocrats with private jets to be subjected to these security measures? Legit curiosity"

Depends on the private terminal's regulations. I know the one at RDU you basically just get waved with a wand and that's it, if that.

11/15/2010 4:03:51 PM

Kinda like companies that make seatbelts for cars?

11/15/2010 4:04:13 PM

Are you really comparing mandated full body irradiation to seat belts?

Do you seriously not see the difference?

11/15/2010 4:06:36 PM

Both increase the safety of your travel, but neither guarantee it

11/15/2010 4:08:56 PM

Condoms and Facials both decrease the likelihood of contraception, but neither guarantee it

11/15/2010 4:12:08 PM

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"I'm curious; since we're all about making our airways and cities safer against attack via plane, do we force wealthy aristocrats with private jets to be subjected to these security measures? Legit curiosity"

Private.

like Jay-Z said "I dont land at the airport, I land at the CLEAR-port"

11/15/2010 4:15:12 PM

Not to play devil's advocate (well, maybe)...


a) If you can opt out of the scanner and get patted down, its not really mandatory.
b) If you know you must do these things to travel via airplane out of certain airports, why not just avoid those airports or travel another way?
c) If we're talking about constitutional issues... if the airports/airlines are private (yes, with government interference however), don't they have the right to certain things like I do in my own home? Like saying no guns or get off my lawn?



All that being said, I travel fairly often for work and I have to deal with these measures on a regular basis. While its a pain in the butt and does bring up valid privacy concerns, I tend to agree that if it helps ensure safety (even if its just because of a placebo affect), its not that bad.

11/15/2010 4:16:33 PM

Yeah, getting cancer for the security appearances sake isn't that bad.

11/15/2010 4:18:06 PM

Haven't seen anything that that says you will get cancer from them... only that you might. Just like if you fly in the first place:

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"FYI flying in general has increased radiation due to less atmosphere above the plane to filter it."

11/15/2010 4:19:46 PM

^^^for real

"THAT BAR HAS NO RIGHT TELLING ME I CANT SMOKE DEM THANGS IN THE BUILDING"

^^O thats great, lets use loosely proven theorem in this argument as well


IT CAUSES T3H CANCER

so does your weed.

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 4:21 PM. Reason : f]

11/15/2010 4:20:23 PM

you also might get cancer from cell phones and laptops

11/15/2010 4:20:53 PM

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"Private. like Jay-Z said "I dont land at the airport, I land at the CLEAR-port""

Yet again you reveal your deep desire to lick the cock and balls of your rich overlords

If the point is that airplanes can be used as weapons against public, freestanding structures, then these motherfuckers need the same screening procedures ANYBODY does

Part of the reason bullshit regulations like this are allowed to inconvenience us (read: the normal, small person) is because it has literally no effect on those with money, power, and influence. Shit just doesn't apply.

11/15/2010 4:21:35 PM

oh yeah, and don't stand too close to the microwave

11/15/2010 4:22:17 PM

so youre telling me that the common man is being pestered by being subject to a screening when he gets into his vehicle?


you aint gotta fly man, you got options THIS IS AMERICA

you can take a boat, you can drive, or you can befriend a rich overlord and fly in his private jet.

11/15/2010 4:23:51 PM

According to this article, Israel had the problem solved 50 years ago. Their solution does sound worlds smarter. Too bad it relies on having more than just trained monkeys working for airport security.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother

11/15/2010 4:24:05 PM

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"a) If you can opt out of the scanner and get patted down, its not really mandatory. b) If you know you must do these things to travel via airplane out of certain airports, why not just avoid those airports or travel another way? c) If we're talking about constitutional issues... if the airports/airlines are private (yes, with government interference however), don't they have the right to certain things like I do in my own home? Like saying no guns or get off my lawn? "

(a) Subject yourself to this physical invasion of privacy and you can opt out of getting your naked body imaged!
(b) This is obvious a test-phase; if they can, they'll roll them out to each airport they can. Company gots to get paid.
(c) Depends quite a lot on what the nature of the business is. Also, the screening is domain of the TSA, not some private company.

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"so youre telling me that the common man is being pestered by being subject to a screening when he gets into his vehicle? you aint gotta fly man, you got options THIS IS AMERICA you can take a boat, you can drive, or you can befriend a rich overlord and fly in his private jet."

This is too fucking stupid to address. Keep taking hits to the head, but stop pretending your ability to reason is making it out in one piece

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 4:25 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2010 4:25:08 PM

So because you get exposed to radiation in the plane, that makes it okay to expose yourself to even more radiation for these security scans?

Considering that very little research has gone into the effects these scanners have on your body, especially if you are someone who travels frequently, I personally would not be comfortable with going through them.

I'll stick with my car and Amtrak until there's a couple years of a track record for these things built up or they stop use of them because the Supreme Court says they violate the 4th amendment.

11/15/2010 4:25:13 PM

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"Yeah, getting cancer for the security appearances sake isn't that bad. "

wlfpckgrr i am going to ask that for your own personal safety go wander off into the alaskan wilds and live a minimalist lifestyle until you die a savage death

11/15/2010 4:25:29 PM

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"^^RDU does have a team of bomb sniffing dogs, but they can't cover everything."

That's obviously not ENOUGH bomb sniffing dogs. I am serious, we should have like 10 times the number of bomb sniffing dogs in the airport, and they should get to run around and sniff for bombs. They point at you, THEN you get searched. I feel like there's at least a legitimacy to it at that point (even if there are false positives).

But then The NAACP etc would claim the dogs were being trained to racially profile....



PS - I'd be super pissed if someone was trying to frisk my 3 year old daughter. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, protective dad mode

11/15/2010 4:26:23 PM

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"So because you get exposed to radiation in the plane, that makes it okay to expose yourself to even more radiation for these security scans? Considering that very little research has gone into the effects these scanners have on your body, especially if you are someone who travels frequently, I personally would not be comfortable with going through them. I'll stick with my car and Amtrak until there's a couple years of a track record for these things built up or they stop use of them because the Supreme Court says they violate the 4th amendment."

dude youre gonna be sorry when researchers find that tin foil causes cancer

11/15/2010 4:27:10 PM

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"According to this article, Israel had the problem solved 50 years ago. Their solution does sound worlds smarter. Too bad it relies on having more than just trained monkeys working for airport security. "

Their security is worlds better than ours, and they don't need porno-cams to do it

11/15/2010 4:27:33 PM

It doesn't matter if the x-ray causes cancer or not this is still categorically wrong and the people defending it are fucking traitors

11/15/2010 4:28:07 PM

yep lets just have public stonings and amputations

BUT IT DOES MATTER MD, IT DOES BECAUSE WLFPCKGRRR SAYS IT DOES

DOES THE OPINIONS OF EVERYONE NOT MATTER TO YOU?

it matters to him dammit

nothing more treacherous than abandoning the minority no?

i think health risk are more of a viable argument than your assumption that I am in favor of wiretaps and the illumanti and shit

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 4:32 PM. Reason : f]

11/15/2010 4:29:25 PM

lol you're trying to hard at trolling today, BigHitSunday

11/15/2010 4:32:58 PM

fuck off bruh

im a one man army i fight til i die

GET DOWN OR YOU GON LAY DOWN

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 4:34 PM. Reason : d]

11/15/2010 4:33:50 PM

BHS isn't "trolling" this time he's just wrong

11/15/2010 4:38:51 PM

ok ok youre right.

in a few years when your droppin your draws at RDU youll realize that a better man would have found a better means of resistance than bending over and taking it

i dont reckon youll send any letters to a government you hate so much so who cares

11/15/2010 4:41:50 PM

I wish the Acela Express extended down to Raleigh. Damned trackage rights

11/15/2010 4:44:55 PM

why not just use amtrak

11/15/2010 4:45:31 PM

The Acela Express is run by Amtrak...

11/15/2010 4:46:23 PM

my bad, but what is the difference then?

11/15/2010 4:46:56 PM

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"i dont reckon youll send any letters to a government you hate so much so who cares"

Plenty of shit you don't reckon ain't there

11/15/2010 4:47:44 PM

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"I'm just glad that, as a dude, I can ignore it if I absolutely have to. I can't imagine how uncomfortable that shit would make me if I were an attractive woman... some mongoloid sitting behind the screen looking at everything he wants (you know, like we did earlier in this thread with that one girl and her tits)."

IMO women wouldn't be worried about it that way. most women are at least a little insecure about their bodies. the thought of some jerk with a cloth badge checking out my muffin top just makes me cringe.

11/15/2010 4:48:59 PM

or if your boobs hang at a 45


just like anything else theyll sit in the breakroom and poke fun and "name the body types"

but you wont know about it or hear of it so who cares

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 4:50 PM. Reason : g]

11/15/2010 4:49:48 PM

^^^^ Basically Amtrak has the sole rights to the track that that train runs on. For regional trains, they are renting the track from the freight train companies that own the track, so the freight trains get priority. That's why Amtrak trains running in NC have a habit of being late, Norfolk Southern basically dicks them over constantly.

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 4:50 PM. Reason : a]

11/15/2010 4:49:59 PM

gotcha thanks man

11/15/2010 4:51:09 PM

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"just like anything else theyll sit in the breakroom and poke fun and "name the body types" but you wont know about it or hear of it so who cares"

hmm yes for the most part you'll be unaware of the inappropriate gawking as they dismantle your right to privacy

11/15/2010 4:51:55 PM

no harm no foul

you gotsta be confident in yoself dawg

the law cant fix that

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 5:00 PM. Reason : d]

11/15/2010 5:00:10 PM

look even if my dick were tiny i wouldn't give a fuck, it's not in my nature to give a fuck

i also don't care if somebody looks at me naked. but there's a far leap from "i don't care if somebody looks at me naked" to "i don't care if the government mandates that I be frisked or strip-searched every time I travel"

11/15/2010 5:03:52 PM

i dont care about your argument so i am going to talk about that girl in the x-rays snatch



On the left is the kind of taco id be hoping to see, as a TSA employee; on the right is the taco this woman offers me as I work tireless hours to make this country safe

i wouldnt let her on the plane.

[Edited on November 15, 2010 at 5:07 PM. Reason : f]

11/15/2010 5:07:27 PM