BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^^AHA, you're in a thread arguing about Charlie Sheen, dude.
Don't think this is the time or place to criticize people who get caught up in celebrity gossip.
But, yeah, Geppetto is being ridiculous.
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 2:44 PM. Reason : THE TENANTS OF SHEEN'S PHILOSOPHY AIN'T PAID THEY RENT!] 3/1/2011 2:40:52 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
Ridiculous? Why, because I can acknowledge that Charlie Sheen is currently living life the way he wants; a feat that sounds simple, yet appears impossible since so few people manage to do it? If you were one out of 1 million people who have managed to take a finite amount of time and turn it into their advantage you'd feel like a winner too. 3/1/2011 2:50:47 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Earn the respect of your peers? Or bang pornstars and pound blow while being filthy rich?
I like #2. 3/1/2011 2:51:21 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No, you insufferable, close-minded troglodyte. Sheen's colorful metaphors are only a part of it. Sheen mostly speaks of a higher philosophy about life that many people appreciate but actively push to the side and ignore so that they don't drown themselves int heir own boredom. Believe it or not, the porn stars are just part of that philosophy. We all spend our money on things that we enjoy, hobbies if you will. I don't like hunting, but some do. I don't spend money on video games, but some do. Sheen just chooses to spend his money on what entertains him. The fact of the matter is that many people are just jealous of what he can do with his money. Think about how high of a dollar the XXX industry is, or how active sites like adult friend finder and craigslist casual encounters are. People want to live his lifestyle, but they are too afraid to do it on the open arena. He has said "I don't care any more" and is explaining to others why they should free themselves too. The basic tenants of what he has to say are so obvious, but it is no wonder feels like a uniquely guided genius since people can't, or, rather, choose to dismiss, this concept." |
It's not jealousy for most people. Many people openly admit to being jealous of Hugh Hefner's lifestyle (even if they laugh at him for being so old he probably can't even really have sex anymore), and he does the same thing as sheen. People don't treat sheen the same way because they see him as crazy, drug addled, and/or disturbed.
He's doing what many other people would do if they had the means, that doesn't make him a uniquely guided genius. Sheen is simply a spoiled celebrity who feels entitled to everything he has.
Also you forgot his lame catchphrases. Where do they fit in with this genius master plan of his?
BTW the fact that you think everyone critical of sheen is jealous of him shows you believe everyone wants to do what he's doing. Who is close-minded again?
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 2:54 PM. Reason : clarified]3/1/2011 2:51:33 PM |
walkmanfades All American 3139 Posts user info edit post |
i found this thread by searching for "addled"
for some reason i hate that word 3/1/2011 2:57:22 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Why would you search for a word you hate? 3/1/2011 2:58:03 PM |
walkmanfades All American 3139 Posts user info edit post |
because i wanted to mention my hate in a relevant thread
duh 3/1/2011 2:59:18 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
k 3/1/2011 3:00:38 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ridiculous? Why, because I can acknowledge that Charlie Sheen is currently living life the way he wants; a feat that sounds simple, yet appears impossible since so few people manage to do it? If you were one out of 1 million people who have managed to take a finite amount of time and turn it into their advantage you'd feel like a winner too." |
My point is that it is easy for someone like Sheen, especially at this point in his life to do this. There is nothing interesting about this. It is extremely easy for someone established, at a point in life that Sheen is, and independently wealthy to share what is really on their mind, do whatever they want, and not care what other people say.
The only reason he is getting attention is directly related to the fact that the general public loves gossip. These are the same people who will watch Jersey Shore and get caught up in the Jon&Kate crap. You're talking about a pretty unintelligent busy-body audience. What is he doing that you think is so genius?
I guess a lot of it just comes down to what different people value in life. If you look at OopsPowSrprs's post, I don't necessarily care about having respect from my peers but I also don't really have any interest in scenario #2. Certainly there are other viable options.
In reality, I obviously was exaggerating when I said I hope his career is over after this. Since I don't think he is funny anymore, I'm not interested in what he does with his career. I just don't get all the people acting like he is some sort of god for speaking his mind now that he has all the money he needs to not give one iota what other people think of him. Doesn't take hardly any balls to do that at this point in your life/career.
Quote : | "^^AHA, you're in a thread arguing about Charlie Sheen, dude.
Don't think this is the time or place to criticize people who get caught up in celebrity gossip." |
Because I state in one celebrity-gossip related thread that I think all this celebrity gossip and media buzz concerning Charlie Sheen is stupid I lose the ability to say that celebrity gossip is stupid? Does not compute. Sorry!
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 3:15 PM. Reason : .]3/1/2011 3:04:04 PM |
GGMon All American 6462 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Earn the respect of your peers? Or bang pornstars and pound blow while being filthy rich?
I like #2." |
I would too - but just for two weekends a year. The rest of the time, I think I would like to be a well respected member of society.3/1/2011 3:09:21 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's not jealousy for most people. Many people openly admit to being jealous of Hugh Hefner's lifestyle (even if they laugh at him for being so old he probably can't even really have sex anymore), and he does the same thing as sheen. People don't treat sheen the same way because they see him as crazy, drug addled, and/or disturbed." |
Wrong. Do you have, or know of anyone who has, a grandpa who says things that are out of line and would get most people slapped? This is not too rare. The same formula applies here. Hefner is old, so what he does is adorable. Sheen is young, therefore what he does is chastised. Surely you're familiar with this dynamic.
Quote : | "He's doing what many other people would do if they had the means, that doesn't make him a uniquely guided genius. Sheen is simply a spoiled celebrity who feels entitled to everything he has." |
Why isn't he?
Quote : | "Also you forgot his lame catchphrases. Where do they fit in with this genius master plan of his?" |
No. I addressed winning in the comments above.
Quote : | "BTW the fact that you think everyone critical of sheen is jealous of him shows you believe everyone wants to do what he's doing. Who is close-minded again?" |
Everyone is a hyperbole. Most is applicable.3/1/2011 3:13:38 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
^Most? Are you crazy? Most people are jealous of Charlie Sheen because he bangs barely legal runaways who have to sell sex for money?!??! I can do that right now, but I don't want to. And I don't think most people do either.
Also, since when is Charlie Sheen young?!?!?!
Quote : | "CalledToArms: Because I state in one celebrity-gossip related thread that I think all this celebrity gossip and media buzz concerning Charlie Sheen is stupid I lose the ability to say that celebrity gossip is stupid? Does not compute. Sorry!" |
No, it's the part where you argue about it like you really care.
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 3:19 PM. Reason : ]3/1/2011 3:16:23 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Wrong. Do you have, or know of anyone who has, a grandpa who says things that are out of line and would get most people slapped? This is not too rare. The same formula applies here. Hefner is old, so what he does is adorable. Sheen is young, therefore what he does is chastised. Surely you're familiar with this dynamic." |
Uh, this is something Hefner has done since long before he was some senile old viagra addict. The playboy mansion has been a palace of debauchery for decades and nobody thought Hef was crazy. Mainly because he didn't say crazy things.
If you're going to make a claim like he's a "uniquely guided genius" the burden of proof is on you.
Quote : | "No. I addressed winning in the comments above. " |
I didn't see it, just did a ctrl-f for winning. Maybe you could go over it again.
Quote : | "Everyone is a hyperbole. Most is applicable." |
I doubt it.
Furthermore, I like how you compared Sheen to John Lennon. You'd think before you start comparing them Sheen would produce ONE SINGLE noteworthy piece of art in his life. He's made a few decent comedy movies and starred in a couple of successful and questionably funny sitcoms with broad appeal. THAT'S IT.
I think either you're still trolling, or you're lying to yourself. You think Sheen is some genius who connects with you at some deep level and understands your views on life. If Charlie Sheen is John Lennon, you're Charles Manson .3/1/2011 3:23:25 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
^^Fair enough. No point in arguing over it anyway since we seem to agree on the issue at hand.
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 3:23 PM. Reason : .] 3/1/2011 3:23:43 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Most people are jealous of Charlie Sheen because he bangs barely legal runaways who have to sell sex for money" |
nailed it3/1/2011 3:24:20 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
I definitely don't fall under most people in that argument then. I could name many things I covet for better or worse but that wouldn't make my list.
Different strokes I suppose.
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 3:26 PM. Reason : .] 3/1/2011 3:25:27 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
~ 3/1/2011 3:26:32 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
Far from it. We just obviously don't share the same entertainment interests. 3/1/2011 3:27:05 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Most people are jealous of Sheen's success and wealth. There's no doubt about that.
However I don't think most people are jealous of his lifestyle. 3/1/2011 3:27:36 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
The main reason that ultra-rich celebrities pay for sex isn't because they can't get laid otherwise. It's because free pussy is going to run and tell the tabloids all about it.
The fucked up part in all this, in my opinion, is that he paid these broads tons of money and some of them still blabbed.
Very unprofessional in my opinion. 3/1/2011 3:29:04 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
^^Definitely. I wouldn't be so silly as to say I'm not jealous of that kind of wealth and success in life. Very few people would try and argue that they aren't jealous of that.
The kind of life I would live with that kind of wealth and the kind he lives are polar opposites though. Extremely different personality types (which coincidentally is probably also a big reason I think his show is terrible)
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 3:31 PM. Reason : .] 3/1/2011 3:29:08 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He's made a few decent comedy movies and starred in a couple of successful and questionably funny sitcoms with broad appeal. THAT'S IT." |
Platoon and Wall Street weren't bad.
Quote : | "I would too - but just for two weekends a year. " |
I'd take two weekends a month.
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 3:31 PM. Reason : .]3/1/2011 3:30:35 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
Let's all get a couple bucks together so we can buy Oops some prostitutes and cocaine for the weekend. We can even get him a ritzy room, like at the Embassy Suites across from the mall or something...AHA 3/1/2011 3:43:49 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
^ You are now my favorite poster 3/1/2011 3:47:58 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Platoon and Wall Street weren't bad." |
They were great. Now he's in denial because he's doing an absolute shit tv show for a paycheck and thinks he's a genius because of it.3/1/2011 4:10:18 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
^ I've never seen it so it could indeed be absolute shit, but somehow it's the #1 show on TV. That's probably an indictment on society at large but it also means that he knows how to appeal to those people which is pretty valuable. 3/1/2011 4:23:46 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know if you should credit the show to his careful character development or simply to him getting lucky on casting. 3/1/2011 4:35:28 PM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also, since when is Charlie Sheen young" |
Compared to Hefner, he definitely is. Also, rich 40s is the new 30, and you can check with Jay-Z on this one. Do you, and this is an honest question, actually think before you speak up or do you say whatever comes to you. If it is the latter, this is a perfect example of how Sheen differs from the normal population. What he says is intelligent and what comes out of your mouth is just babble.
Quote : | "didn't see it, just did a ctrl-f for winning. Maybe you could go over it again." |
Check 3/1/2011 2:50:47 PM. Become more observant.
Quote : | "He's made a few decent comedy movies and starred in a couple of successful and questionably funny sitcoms with broad appeal." |
It has already been illustrated how this statement is entirely laughable, so i'll let it slide.
Quote : | "I think either you're still trolling" |
you're 100% correct. I really needed this work day to pass.
Quote : | "ALL OTHER COMMENTS" |
CAPS CAPS CAPS RAWR RAWR...I'VE BEEN HAD.
charlie is trolling too, IMO.
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 4:38 PM. Reason : /]3/1/2011 4:38:18 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
@CharlieSheen - verified, just set it up
I immediately followed.
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 5:05 PM. Reason : http://www.livethesheendream.com/] 3/1/2011 5:03:09 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
LOL! Geppetto is trolling the fuck out of you people, even after being called out on it. 3/1/2011 6:42:17 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
Quotes of awesomery. 3/1/2011 10:08:33 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
I forgot about Spin City! 3/1/2011 10:19:40 PM |
Last Child Veteran 434 Posts user info edit post |
this interview is great! 3/1/2011 10:32:58 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you're 100% correct. I really needed this work day to pass. " |
I never miss a chance to pwn someone even if he is trolling. I was bored as well.3/1/2011 10:33:07 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@CharlieSheen - verified, just set it up" |
Apparently his twitpic
is the third most viewed behind Beiber and the US Air plane in the Hudson.
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 10:35 PM. Reason : This is getting out of control]3/1/2011 10:34:46 PM |
Last Child Veteran 434 Posts user info edit post |
"they'll wake up one day and realize how cool dad is and he signs all the checks on the front and not the back and we need him and we need his wisdom and his bitchyness." 3/1/2011 10:38:56 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27870 Posts user info edit post |
This interview is funnier than any episode of Two and a Half Men.
[Edited on March 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM. Reason : BRING ME DR. CLOWNSHOES] 3/1/2011 10:53:41 PM |
DJ Lauren All American 15721 Posts user info edit post |
"The run I was on made Sinatra, Flynn, Jagger and Richards look like droopy-eyed armless children." 3/1/2011 11:04:28 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I missed the interview because I was at dinner winning. 3/1/2011 11:17:50 PM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
If you were winning you would have been in the interview 3/1/2011 11:19:28 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
WINNING! 3/1/2011 11:29:38 PM |
BridgetSPK #1 Sir Purr Fan 31378 Posts user info edit post |
KENNY FUCKING POWERS 3/2/2011 12:08:29 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The main reason that ultra-rich celebrities pay for sex isn't because they can't get laid otherwise." |
And because you dont have to take a hooker out to dinner, buy her jewelry/flowers/etc. You don't have to meet her stupid friends. You don't have to watch some stupid chick flick. You don't have to miss the big game because she wants to go furniture shopping. You dont have to ask her how her day went. You dont have to pretend you like her asshole dad.3/2/2011 7:46:46 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^ sounds like someone keeps picking the wrong women to date... 3/2/2011 7:59:19 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds like someone is whipped. 3/2/2011 8:10:44 AM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Charlie Sheen should be on Jersey Shore. Coke Hookers Laundry. 3/2/2011 8:12:36 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^^ not at all...you see, i inferred from your bitter rant that you have indeed experienced such things and for that, i pity you
you, on the other hand, have nothing on which to make your assumption...in fact, my response implies that i, too, would not like to be in the position you are in (or have been in and regretted), which in turn implies that i am not currently in that position...so, again, you're assumption that i am "whipped" comes from nothing
fwiw, mr. apex, i agree with your criticism of the quoted text, if not your reasons for said criticism
[Edited on March 2, 2011 at 8:23 AM. Reason : .] 3/2/2011 8:21:58 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Deep down you know I'm right. 3/2/2011 8:42:39 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
deep down, the tip of my peen hit your cervix
*zing*
i'm just playing...i'm not really trying to be a douche this morning 3/2/2011 8:50:24 AM |
Jen All American 10527 Posts user info edit post |
So... baby mama is in rehab for substance abuse and got temporary custady 3/2/2011 9:29:21 AM |