PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
haha but seriously i dont care if it is or isnt a good idea... i just think itd be awesome and i wanna see it 11/13/2011 5:49:39 PM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
#1 got some respect from Mel Kiper Jr. in the latest ESPN mag as one of three defensive players to watch or some shit to that effect. 11/13/2011 5:53:56 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Defensive Hopeful Who Will Never Win: David Amerson, NC State. His nine interceptions lead the nation, and he returned one for a touchdown." |
http://www.grantland.com/blog/the-triangle/post/_/id/8961/week-10-college-football-recap-crown-the-tigers11/13/2011 8:11:10 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
North Carolina State sophomore corner David Amerson leads the FBS with 10 interceptions, three more than anyone else. Not only has no defender picked off 11 passes since safety Jim Leonhard of Wisconsin in 2002, but if Amerson maintains his pace of one interception per game, he will be the first to do so over an entire season since safety Terry Hoage of Georgia in 1982. You now may find Hoage in the College Football Hall of Fame.
-Ivan Maisel 11/17/2011 10:17:37 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
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rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
It sucks he won't get a 13th game to try for more INTs. 11/17/2011 5:22:35 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Dre Bly can eat a dick 11/19/2011 6:01:54 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
11 11/19/2011 6:02:04 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
woooooooooooooooooooooo 11/19/2011 6:02:14 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
YEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH 11/19/2011 6:02:27 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck you Dre Bly!! Haha 11/19/2011 6:03:41 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
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timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
Did anyone get a capture of the graphic where it compares Amerson's interceptions with those of teams in the top 25? 11/19/2011 6:20:23 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
maybe the greatest season statistically buy a DB ever... he should SO win the Heisman... I mean, if Woodson did with his average stats then Amerson is a shoo in 11/19/2011 7:41:05 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
^^no, but they said he has more INTs than 66 FBS teams
kid isnt just getting INTs, he's playing lockdown corner. Plus he's only a sophomore. He's rated by a couple websites as a top 5 CB in the 2014 draft class
[Edited on November 19, 2011 at 7:56 PM. Reason : adsf] 11/19/2011 7:54:30 PM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
I looked at the current stats, he's got more than something like 70+ teams. 11/19/2011 8:01:07 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Woodsons team won the rose bowp. Poor amerson. 11/19/2011 9:04:01 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
TOB decided to call out amerson and say it was dumb football
real classy TOB 11/19/2011 11:31:27 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
^wow. terrible "leadership"
criticize in private, praise in public. What a loser. Wonder why he can't convince talented recruits to come play for him? Publicly insult and run off your best players. Success will be punished
[Edited on November 19, 2011 at 11:37 PM. Reason : ,] 11/19/2011 11:36:10 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
You guys should have learned a long time ago that TOB despises great talent. Amerson will leave for the draft for sure. 11/19/2011 11:40:15 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
well he's right, it was fourth down 11/19/2011 11:40:41 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
thanks nobody realized that 11/19/2011 11:41:57 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
so you guys are mad at tob for putting the welfare of the team above individual accolades, makes sense. you guys will never be happy and must always have something to bitch about 11/19/2011 11:44:26 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
The best thing for your team is to publicly embarrass your best players when they do well. Genius. He handles the media like Chuck Amato
It's not like he could have praised amerson in public for being the best in the nation while also telling him to play differently in the film session.
[Edited on November 19, 2011 at 11:56 PM. Reason : .] 11/19/2011 11:55:24 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
ICE! FANNIES! WHAT CRITICS? 11/19/2011 11:57:06 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure he's really embarrassed, he may never play football again 11/20/2011 12:08:21 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
tob is a selfish coach and will never be happy about making accomodations to his policies for elite athletes. We've seen this as a recurring theme. 11/20/2011 12:35:51 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
TOB would normally be right. If it was Bishop, I'd have been pissed if he'd have caught it
However, knowing what the score was and that an ACC record is on the line, I can't believe TOB would be disappointed in that.
Now, unless its the difference between a bowl game and staying home, catch it Amerson. To Hell with Dre Bly 11/20/2011 12:49:32 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
It was a dumb play if the outcome wasn't decided. We got the ball at the one yard line. In a close game, it could have decided the outcome.
I don't see how this guy is any good, he's a 3* TOB recruit. 11/20/2011 1:16:27 AM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
u trollin dawg 11/20/2011 1:25:45 AM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
it was in the third quarter... 11/20/2011 2:01:47 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Dre Bly can eat a dick" |
11/20/2011 2:19:27 AM |
d7freestyler Sup, Brahms 23935 Posts user info edit post |
Should have been a touchback anyway. 11/20/2011 3:23:06 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "criticize in private, praise in public. What a loser. Wonder why he can't convince talented recruits to come play for him? Publicly insult and run off your best players. Success will be punished " |
You're surprised? "Blame the players" has been the mantra for every non-injury thing that's gone wrong since TOB got here. It's NEVER because of bad coaching or a bad gameplan. The gameplan is NEVER flawed at all, it's just that the players aren't paragons of perfection.
It's actually my biggest problem with TOB, beyond his coaching it's his tendency to blame the players publicly for problems.11/20/2011 1:13:05 PM |
tl All American 8430 Posts user info edit post |
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dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
(as opposed to imageshack)
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Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on November 20, 2011 at 1:29 PM. Reason : ]
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Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
Thorpe Award finalists: S Mark Barron, Alabama CB Morris Claiborne, LSU CB David Amerson, N.C. State 11/21/2011 6:32:22 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
damn, thats a good group... going to be a tough call. Barron knocks the shit out of people and Claiborne should be a top 5 pick next year 11/21/2011 6:36:24 PM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
Wow. But I can't help but wonder if the Thorpe is another gay ass de facto team award like the Heisman. Notice that LSU and Bama are #1 and #2, so it looks a little like Amerson is included as the honorable mention who "would win if our team was doing well."
Can a player on a 6-6/7-5 team win it? I sure hope so. 11/21/2011 7:45:50 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
they are both legit, definitely not in just because they play for LSU and Bama. But the Thorpoe is hard one to predict as its not just purely stat based as DBs cant just be judged on numbers alone 11/21/2011 7:47:41 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Good company, at least. Should get paid eventually barring NC state shit 11/21/2011 7:52:14 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
nvm. saw picture
[Edited on November 21, 2011 at 8:17 PM. Reason : .] 11/21/2011 8:15:30 PM |
jsausley All American 1031 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Not saying that those other two players aren't great football players, I'm just saying that I hope playing for a weak team doesn't automatically exclude you like it does the Heisman. Using RW as an example, the QB with the nation's highest overall ranking, and he's not even in contention for the "most outstanding football player" trophy because his team recorded two losses.
[Edited on November 21, 2011 at 8:20 PM. Reason : .] 11/21/2011 8:19:59 PM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But the Thorpoe is hard one to predict as its not just purely stat based as DBs cant just be judged on numbers alone" |
As long as they aren't like the Butkus award and their "We put Bruce Carter in the finals because yes he's having a lousy season compared to the rest of the semi-finalists but he just looks so good doing it" line of reasoning.
[Edited on November 21, 2011 at 9:15 PM. Reason : cc fail]11/21/2011 9:14:53 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know all the factors in this thorpe award, but if these mean anything:
Amerson: 11 INT, 51 Tkl (35 solo)
Barron: 2 INT, 60 Tkl (39 solo)
Claiborne: 4 INT, 40 Tkl (24 solo)
then the winner is clear 11/22/2011 4:24:41 PM |
Kickstand All American 11596 Posts user info edit post |
It will come down to whether Barron or Claiborne have more finesse than Amerson. 11/22/2011 6:45:33 PM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
lol...forgot about that one last year. 11/22/2011 6:54:42 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^ha, i've already forgotten the details of that story. Wasn't it a UNC linebacker winning some award over Irving and others with clearly superior stats, and then after and outcry, the explanation was his superior "finesse"? 11/22/2011 6:57:59 PM |
jdman the Dr is in 3848 Posts user info edit post |
it will go to the more senior player, and they'll assume Amerson will win it during his junior or senior years... 11/22/2011 7:00:16 PM |