do you know how insane it sounds that we could have 3 starting QB's and a #1 overall pick DE in the NFL despite never having a single good season with any of them?

NC State defying all odds

10/29/2012 6:43:44 PM

^

3rd failed troll in a row. The world is coming to an end...

10/29/2012 6:47:28 PM

Since nobody reads the last post

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"N.C. State quarterback Mike Glennon set to climb draft boards Mike Glennon might be the best quarterback available in the 2013 NFL Draft. I know that statement will take many by surprise, considering the endless hype and speculation surrounding West Virginia's Geno Smith and USC's Matt Barkley, but there is a growing sentiment in the NFL scouting community that the N.C. State star could be the crown jewel of this year's quarterback class. I had heard about Glennon's ascension up draft boards across the league over the past few weeks, but it wasn't until I made a trip to North Carolina to study him in person on Saturday that I could see what all the commotion was about. Glennon's masterful performance in a 43-35 loss to North Carolina made the visit well worth the trouble. Glennon completed 29 of his 52 passes for 467 yards, throwing five touchdowns and two interceptions. Those numbers might not be impressive at first glance, but when one considers the 10 passes dropped by Wolfpack receivers, it becomes clear that the stat sheet wasn't indicative of Glennon's efficient play from the pocket. Glennon connected on 20 of his first 29 passes and finished the night with five completions of 30-plus yards. Most impressively, he hit 10 different receivers and showed his capacity to make every throw in the book from the pocket. Charting Glennon's throws, I noticed that while he worked every area of the field, he was particularly effective in the 10- to 15-yard void between the hashes, repeatedly hitting receivers on the move on an assortment of crossing routes and square-ins over the middle. Although the over/under read is a fairly simple one, the fact that Glennon wasn't afraid to throw between linebackers speaks volumes about his anticipation and awareness. I noticed three additional aspects of Glennon's game that will stand out when NFL scouts pop in the tape: 1. Arm talent. Glennon is one of the most impressive throwers in college football. He has rare arm strength, and his ability to make all of the throws to every area of the field with zip and velocity makes him an ideal fit for most traditional pro-style systems. While watching him work against the Tar Heels, I was blown away by the pace of his balls. Glennon unleashes laser-like tosses on out-breaking routes; he will not have any issues throwing the deep comeback to the far side of the field from the pocket. When given the opportunity to attack down the field on vertical routes, Glennon displayed excellent accuracy and touch. He routinely dropped the ball in over the receiver's proper shoulder, and he rarely forced his receivers to alter their stride. This will certainly catch the attention of scouts and coaches who favor offensive systems built on the vertical passing game; it could be what separates Glennon from the other prospects leading up to the draft. 2. Pocket presence. Glennon is not an athletic playmaker, and he can't defeat defenses with his feet. He can, however, punish opponents with his precise passing skills. When given ample time to throw from a clean pocket, Glennon looked like a potential Pro Bowl-caliber player, delivering pinpoint throws to his intended targets and displaying the kind of consistent placement one would expect from an elite signal-caller. His accuracy and ball placement, in fact, ranked as definite bright spots in his overall performance. Though he showed outstanding poise against pressure, he simply lacked the elusiveness to avoid multiple rushers in the pocket, taking five sacks that a better athlete might have avoided. To succeed against blitz-heavy tactics as a pro, he'll need to develop a top-notch feel for deciphering coverage, particularly blitz pressure, and utilize hot reads/sight adjustments to exploit the defense's vulnerabilities. Glennon certainly appears to have the football IQ necessary for grasping and executing that concept after spending four years playing within a pro-style system at N.C. State, but he'll need additional coaching and repetitions to master the nuances of the tactic. 3. Leadership. One of the traits most coveted by scouts and coaches searching for a franchise quarterback is leadership ability. Elite quarterbacks must be able to inspire confidence in their teammates with their poise and performance under pressure. They must also outwork everyone in the building, putting in the time to master the nuances of the offense. Glennon exhibited all of those qualities with his strong performance against the Tar Heels. He rallied the Wolfpack back from an 18-point deficit, making a host of big plays to energize his sideline. Most importantly, he didn't give up on his teammates despite the countless miscues and blunders they made in the passing game. He kept his body language positive and his interactions in the huddle encouraging. Though N.C. State lost, Glennon showed all of the intangible qualities one looks for in a quarterback, likely boosting his value in the minds of evaluators. Glennon is currently a borderline first-round pick on draft boards across the NFL, but the buzz circulating in the scouting community leads me to believe he'll make a dramatic jump up the charts as the evaluation process continues. At this stage of his development, Glennon reminds me of Baltimore Ravens quarterback Joe Flacco; I can see a team falling in love with his talent when he works out in front of scouts at all-star games and other pre-draft workouts. With at least four more games to showcase his immense talent and potential, Glennon is definitely a prospect to watch over the next few months."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000087375/article/nc-state-quarterback-mike-glennon-set-to-climb-draft-boards

10/29/2012 6:50:13 PM

^^ What are you talking about? Could everyone on this message board concentrate more on substance and less on trying to be funny?


Anyway, I think Glennon easily could sneak into the first round just because teams get so enamored with QBs. The thing that will hurt him is how many new starting QB's there were this year... there aren't quite as many teams that are desperate for a QB this year and most teams who are will be drafting closer to the top.

I could definitely see a team like Jax trading up into the first round to grab him.

Also, I think the Joe Flacco comparison is a very good one.


Teams who may be looking to add a QB:

Jax
KC
Arizona
Philly
Dallas


Then there are a few others out there like Oakland, TN, NYJ, etc who would perhaps consider grabbing one even though they already have a high priced starter



[Edited on October 29, 2012 at 6:53 PM. Reason : a]

10/29/2012 6:50:39 PM

Glennon has a PRO arm but zero mobility and struggles when the pocket collapses. I love him on the college level and as career NFL backup, but not as a franchise quarterback.

10/29/2012 6:52:51 PM

^ right, his mobility stinks and that's obviously become even more important the past few years in the NFL.

The statue big arm QB's like Jeff George, Kerry Collins, Drew Bledsoe have all been phased out.

The new school consists mostly of quick QB's like Luck/Rodgers, pocket masters like Brady/Manning, or runners like RGIII/Cam.

That being said, ben roethlisberger, carson palmer, matt schaub, etc also continue to hold starting jobs.

10/29/2012 6:57:44 PM

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" I was blown away by the pace of his balls"

10/29/2012 7:18:58 PM

That article is why Bucky Brooks got fired by the Panthers of all organizations.

Meanwhile, Jim Harbaugh - who once wrote up a scouting report on David Carr for the Raiders about how he'd be a huge scrub as a pro - is now coaching the 49ers

10/29/2012 10:35:06 PM

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"Could everyone on this message board concentrate more on substance and less on trying to be funny?"

quote of the week.

10/29/2012 11:27:16 PM

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"do you know how insane it sounds that we could have 3 starting QB's and a #1 overall pick DE in the NFL despite never having a single good season with any of them? NC State defying all odds "

I agree with face on this post although we had a good season with Rivers his junior year. Finishing #12 in the nation is a great season for NC State.

State does have an amazing ability at not achieving shit due to one or two extremely flawed areas on every team, every year it seems. It would be great if we could actually put it all together for once in our lifetimes.

10/30/2012 7:46:18 AM

Stupid statement. Not one of those guys played together in their prime. The great QBs had shitty defenses and vice versa.

The only argument that we should have had a great team was when we had the great defense that had several guys drafted in the top 5 rounds. Unfortunately they played with the worst collection of QBs in the history of NC State football.

It's not like we had UNC's NFL talent plus an NFL QB (yeah yeah...Yates). That was way more underachieving than we've ever accomplished.

This year could have been a great one if Manning had stayed. But our LBers have struggled (pre-season injuries didn't help) and for some odd reason, our vaunted secondary has had some shitty games/moments. I've been really disappointed in the DBs/safeties.

[Edited on October 30, 2012 at 9:16 AM. Reason : .]

10/30/2012 9:14:10 AM

Not true. We had a terrific defense during rivers junior year, it was our offense that sucked.

10/30/2012 9:19:07 AM

I'm not so sure Fuck, this was a troll thread when it was made. I'm out.

10/30/2012 9:23:39 AM

I tried to look up 2002's stats. The only site I found said Rivers rushed for 10 TDs

Wat.

10/30/2012 9:48:32 AM

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"jsausley All American 923 Posts user info edit post Fuck this ginger. 8/31/2012 11:44:50 PM"

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"skokiaan All American 23058 Posts user info edit post Rivers and Wilson never looked as bad as Glennon did last night. Glennon has been overhyped by TOB because TOB bet the farm on Glennon. Glennon is a TOB recruit rather than Amato recruit, and TOB has unduly favored Glennon because of that. 9/1/2012 9:05:52 AM"

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"jsausley All American 923 Posts user info edit post Stats lie. He had a terrible game. He has QB skills but he has no QB knowledge. Made so many terrible decisions. [Edited on September 29, 2012 at 5:34 PM. Reason : .] 9/29/2012 5:34:07 PM"

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"skokiaan All American 23057 Posts user info edit post This guy is completely forgettable. Our dumbass coach made a mistake in even mentioning Matt Ryan's name in the same breath 10/6/2012 9:44:23 PM"

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"BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post i'd take barnette over glennon, and kramer 10/6/2012 9:45:27 PM"

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"justinh524 All American 6159 Posts user info edit post At this point, jay davis > glennon. (I won't say stone or beck though, because that's just mean.) 10/6/2012 9:47:39 PM"

10/30/2012 12:34:34 PM

There's plenty more where that came from. Dumbasses.

10/30/2012 12:47:24 PM

I STAND BY MY REMARKS MADE DURING THE SHITFEST THAT WAS THE FIRST HALF OF THE FSU GAME

10/30/2012 12:58:16 PM

J-E-T-S Jets Jets Jets! I was bummed when the Jets picked up Tebow instead of going for Wilson. Maybe Glennon will be picked up by them instead. Sanchez and Tebow are both QB Fails. Hit the reset button and try again.

10/30/2012 1:14:10 PM

The Jets awful offensive line and Mike Glennon are a match made in hell. Glennon would die the first time Vince Wilfork fell on him. Honestly I don't even think Brady would do well with that talentless Jets offense.

10/30/2012 1:24:12 PM

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"I tried to look up 2002's stats. The only site I found said Rivers rushed for 10 TDs"

That seems like a lot, but Amato was a fan of the QB sneak.

10/30/2012 1:29:00 PM

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"justinh524 All American 6159 Posts user info edit post At this point, jay davis > glennon."

you shouldn't be allowed to post in this thread anymore

holy fuck Jay Davis was bad

10/30/2012 1:49:10 PM

10/31/2012 11:10:08 PM

hahahahhaa MAN OH MAN

i'm glad mike has a sense of humor

10/31/2012 11:12:30 PM

hahahhaa + 100 credibility

10/31/2012 11:41:06 PM

11/1/2012 7:27:12 AM

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"hahahhaa + 100 credibility"

11/1/2012 8:53:22 AM

I dunno they look a little thick/frumpy to me. Maybe.they have good personalities?

11/1/2012 9:00:32 AM

LOL. Between Glennon and Staats, our athletes had some good Halloween costumes.

11/1/2012 9:10:16 AM

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" you shouldn't be allowed to post in this thread anymore holy fuck Jay Davis was bad"

Yes, lets please take things out of context. Dick.

11/1/2012 10:39:36 AM

I don't think "taken out of context" means what you think it means. You also said that he can't help but suck, since he's a Glennon. You suck.

11/1/2012 10:41:52 AM

I hate all of you more than I hated marcus stone.

And yes, glennon's play in the first half of the fsu game was worse than jay davis.

11/1/2012 10:43:52 AM

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"do you know how insane it sounds that we could have 3 starting QB's and a #1 overall pick DE in the NFL despite never having a single good season with any of them"

sounds like carolina

11/1/2012 12:32:34 PM

^not sure if that's supposed to be a joke. UNC has never had a QB that went on to start in the NFL.

[Edited on November 1, 2012 at 12:58 PM. Reason : Voops, duh, my bad. one.]

11/1/2012 12:39:24 PM

Some dudes got injured to help T.J. Yates get a start.

11/1/2012 12:55:38 PM

I am on a plane and bored so figured I'd post in this thread.

I think with the success of the rookie qb's this year and the fact that there isn't many qb options coming out next year Glennon's stock is going to rise fast once the season is done and he hits the combine/workouts. I think when the year is all done his numbers will look pretty good despite not being what everyone thought they could have been so that won't hold him back.

I agree with the mobility issues but I think he is going to kill it in the football IQ/maturity department.

Not sure where he fits in exactly because so many teams have young QBs and will need to make the call if they are going to stick with what they have or move on, but I'm expecting him to be talked about quite a bit come draft time.

Anyway, thanks for helping me kill 3 minutes.

11/1/2012 2:53:26 PM

did the plane take off?

11/1/2012 9:07:00 PM

I support this thread because Glennon is #4 in the nation in negative rushing yards and my brothers uncanny resemblance to him.

[Edited on November 12, 2012 at 4:19 PM. Reason : ...]

11/12/2012 4:18:38 PM

bump for 2 amazing TD passes

11/17/2012 4:09:39 PM

Glennon is fucking bad-ass

11/17/2012 4:19:29 PM

This guy is a fucking boss and a lot of you idiots have done nothing but hate him for two years.

11/17/2012 11:56:10 PM

obviously Russell Wilson would've scored 70 points today and led us to victory

11/17/2012 11:57:02 PM

Gosh we're gonna suck next year...

11/18/2012 12:10:52 AM

he sure threw a lot of passes around people's ankles and knees today...

11/18/2012 12:12:25 AM

If Glennon was a worse QB TOB would be fired after next week's game

He can't even lose properly

11/18/2012 12:13:17 AM

he showed flashes of brilliance today and other times just made awful, awful plays. had several balls thrown at people's feet while others sailed on him. He was lucky not to have 4 INTs this game.

11/18/2012 1:26:57 AM

he also had dropped touchdown passes and was unlucky to not have thrown for 500+ yards today

drops also cost him a 500+ yard game versus UNC

11/18/2012 1:45:28 AM

He leads the ACC in attempts, completions, total yards, sacks, and interceptions, and is 2nd in TDs.

11/18/2012 11:27:43 AM

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"Glennon's season total of 3,648 yards is second on the school's all-time list, behind Philip Rivers. Glennon is the first player in NC State history to record multiple 30-touchdown seasons. He had 31 last season and 30 this year."

11/24/2012 11:00:06 PM

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" If Glennon was a worse QB TOB would be fired after next week's game"

Lol.

Also a freshman qb should win the heisman, not glennon.

11/26/2012 10:47:12 AM

When Glennon is "on," he's as good as any QB in the country (ex: the Wake game, the 2nd half of the FSU game, the first half of the Carolina game). The problem is the streakiness. You never know when he'll be great and when he'll just be ok.

Still, I think the guy is going to have a pretty good career in the NFL.

11/26/2012 10:53:22 AM