if Elissa wins MVP again I wonder if the producers get rid of it. Its a very unfair advantage that she holds every week. She would've been gone each of the first two weeks if not for the MVP.

I do applaud her (and Helen's) gameplay to keep her in the house despite being the initial target, but its still horseshit that she gets a chance to nominate someone else every week

7/16/2013 7:45:20 AM

I firmly believe that BBMVP was a new twist added to the gameplay AFTER they decided Elissa would be joining the contestants.
It wasn't hard to guess that she would be an early target b/c of her sister.
I think they knew she would win the MVP each week and that would be a good way for her to stay in the game longer.

7/16/2013 8:20:44 AM

they should have made it a rule that you can't be MVP in consecutive weeks.

too late for that now, that ship has sailed

7/16/2013 8:31:02 AM

I'm fine with it but I'd like to see a couple changes. First - if you are the MVP you do not have to nominate someone, but if you do your status as the MVP will be revealed (would make for more interesting gameplay, at least in a game where Elissa wasn't around). Second - if the MVP nominates you and you win veto/someone else uses veto on you then the MVP cannot nominate someone else. Both the first two weeks the MVPs second nomination was the one eliminated. That is a lot of power for no reason.

I think it would make it so the MVP is basically America giving you a chance to take a shot at someone but its a more risky move.

Granted this would also rely on a system where Elissa isn't MVP each week.

7/16/2013 9:25:37 AM

yeah right now MVP>HOH


and not only that, but both times MVP has evicted someone while up for nomination

kinda BS


[Edited on July 16, 2013 at 10:30 AM. Reason : ]

7/16/2013 10:25:31 AM

This is the first time I've ever watched BB, I don't understand how mcrae and those guys hat voted nick out think he's a bigger threat than the girl who wins MVP every week. Plus it's funny how the girls feel so fucking slighted in the game but so far two guys have left

7/16/2013 12:13:53 PM

you're right, Spencer keeps making the point that they can "weaponize" Elissa with her MVP vote every week, but if they really thought about it, she has the most power in the house right now. If they got rid of her then the other houseguests would get a chance to win MVP too.

I really do wonder what the producers will do if/when Elissa wins MVP again. It will be painfully obvious at that point that their twist blew up in their faces

7/16/2013 1:36:54 PM

^I honestly think that was their goal.

Big Brother and Survivor love bringing back old contestants or relatives of the contestants in order to get ratings and to make it more "exciting"

Remember when Rachel was voted out of the house during her season and then their was a "pandora box twist" that ended up bringing her back in the house or something like that...

Great timing for that "twist"

7/16/2013 1:44:25 PM

She is the only play with an established fan base cheering for her. For some bizzaro reason tons of people love Rachel and they are all the type who would actually vote for some big brother thing. Unless someone else has a personality that makes them super popular with fans nobody will beat her. And nobody in this house has that personality as for the most part they are all confrontational and suck.

That is if you are even assuming that MVP isn't rigged. Thats the one thing I hate about BB, they rig so much stuff. I guarantee as long as Elissa is in the house they will keep her MVP except for the one week where it will help the story for someone else to win it.

I'm also pretty sure that Elissa will win MVP again this week and put up someone like Howard or Jeremy but even still we will see Aaryn go home. I'm sure the producers are pushing them hard during their interviews to get her out of the house.

[Edited on July 16, 2013 at 2:15 PM. Reason : a]

7/16/2013 2:14:45 PM

MVP sucks when the same person wins every time and the house knows who it is. hopefully it will be better once elissa goes home. its ironic that CBS tried to sell it as a way to get floaters out when the exact opposite has happened

7/16/2013 6:13:32 PM

who are the floaters so far? I guess it's just Judd, Howard, Kaitlin, and Candice?

7/16/2013 7:25:35 PM

MVP at minimum should be like HOH, where you can't win it the following week after you've had it.

7/16/2013 10:37:26 PM

^^ there's some girl named Jessie apparently..

7/16/2013 10:52:31 PM

it isn't entirely obvious to them who the MVP is. i was watching AD the other day and jeremy was saying that mccrae got MVP two weeks in a row.

7/17/2013 8:35:30 AM

howard should leave this house ready for professional billiards

that negro does nothin but shoot pool!

7/17/2013 11:04:15 AM

In the "BUY AN AD" category...
I have created a Triangle BB15 FB group. We have a few folks
signed up and welcome anyone else that wishes to join us to chat about
tonight's eviction show:
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Thanks!

7/18/2013 6:42:17 PM

Judd!!!

7/18/2013 9:57:06 PM

so is aaryn a lock for america's most hated player and get the 3rd nom or what

7/19/2013 6:19:42 AM

Haha probably a good chance.

This is probably CBS' way to get her nominated, or at least show her america's opinion of her.

7/19/2013 6:30:29 AM

This is a good opportunity for Judd to lose his floater status and make some deals and moves. Should be interesting.

7/19/2013 6:40:46 AM

judd should just put up aaryn and GM. no need to put a target on your back if you dont have to

7/19/2013 6:57:44 AM

I voted for Elissa.

7/19/2013 8:11:51 AM

he is gonna put up GM and Kaitlyn

i dont see either of them as a threat to anyone I would put up someone worth voting for, like Howard

I dont think the HG are going to ever actually know that america was the MVP, thats actually pretty cool

there are A LOT of floaters no one seems really worth getting rid of right now (talking purely GAME) Jeremy was by far a guy that HAD to go for everyone's sake as far as being a threat

I guess maybe howard and spencer for proving to be bad liars and now thats their reputation its hard to trust them...howard has the potential to beast competitions as well as being untrustworthy thats why id put him up.



[Edited on July 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM. Reason : f]

7/19/2013 9:18:49 AM

I'm still trying to figure out why GM voted for Jeremy to leave. I thought she was on his side. Kaitlyn has to know that she's all alone now and it may be tough for her to forge new alliances.

As an aside I feel like anyone on the show that actually has fallen for any of the girls' crying is pretty damn gullible...

Well except for GM. That was real crying, lol.

7/19/2013 9:57:55 AM

yeah that bitch be cray


it never fails - every year, the ppl that come out guns blazing, are the ones that get sent home first. if you wrote a BB How To book, chapter 1 needs to be DON'T PUT A F*CKING TARGET ON YOUR BACK.


I wtf-lolled @ aaryn's comment on how jeremy was "just being discriminated against" for being so good.


[Edited on July 19, 2013 at 10:31 AM. Reason : aaryn is 1 dumb cunt]

7/19/2013 10:24:48 AM

^^everybody knew Jeremy was the target so she would have just pissed off Aaryn or Spencer by voting for them...making her a target

she would have been the only outlier if she hadn't voted for him...

Kaitlin doesn't count because they all knew she wouldn't vote for Jeremy




at least this is my assumption based on my very limited knowledge of how this game works

[Edited on July 19, 2013 at 10:36 AM. Reason : lasdfkl]

7/19/2013 10:34:31 AM

Yeah, why doesn't everybody just lose every competition. 16 Andy's would be fucking cool to see

7/20/2013 2:18:17 AM

apparently elissa is drunk and going Zingbot on everyone, particularly Amanda and Kaitlin

made Amanda cry

love her

7/21/2013 4:47:09 AM

thats surprising - amanda seems like a real tough chick

and obligatory spoiler alert

7/21/2013 9:05:55 AM

^^cant wait to see that on wednesday

7/21/2013 9:51:45 AM

^ditto, fuck yes.

Anyone else getting sick and tired of how pushy Amanda is...and that most people on the show seem to have no problem with it?

"Hi I'm Judd I hate to make decisions...you do it for me!" (but I'll still act pissed that you're telling me what to do).

If people don't start realizing that the McCrae Amanda duo is a threat to them all then I guess they're all pretty stupid.

7/22/2013 2:28:57 PM

Except that he didn't put up any of the three she said...

7/22/2013 5:46:27 PM

Except actually he did, so...

7/23/2013 12:15:10 AM

Did she not say Howard, spencer, and candice?

7/23/2013 8:14:21 PM

i'd love to know why Amanda is so against Howard - they haven't shown any conflict between them.

and I thought she said Howard, Spencer and Candace

7/23/2013 9:08:38 PM

^ Because she knows he's a threat in every aspect of the game. He's played a good social game so far, plus has the God angle. And once he decides to actually put some effort into the physical competitions, they're all fucked. I mean shit, even when he tried to throw the Have/Have Not competition they still didn't lose.

7/24/2013 10:48:24 AM

as gung-ho as she is against him, i figured there was some hate between the two.

that^ explains it, i guess

7/24/2013 11:03:33 AM

eh maybe i was mistaken. I thought that she mentioned Aaryn, GM and Kaitlin, and really wanted Howard gone but thought he had to be backdoored. Meanwhile, they showed Aaryn and Judd talking and he more or less made it sound like she was safe (looked that way from my POV at least). And then Judd put her up for eviction after Amanda was beating him over the head about it.


I watched BB after dark last night (first time this season for me) and it seems like everyone hates Elissa now? Should be interesting to see how that plays out.

Also I think its hilarious how much a lot of the cast smokes cigarettes, and yet they magically edit that out for the shows them selves. Can't show people smoking evil cigarettes on TV!!!!

7/24/2013 11:16:20 AM

what i like about Candice and Howards game as opposed to Amanda and McCrae is that Howard and Candice actually interact with the rest of the house then get together and talk game that is mostly accurate

with the build up of people beginning to realize howard needs to go he might want to stop throwing comps soon and start winning. Him jumping off the popsicle with only 5 minutes and struggling to swim on a float were comically obvious. He needs to start taking control of who stays and goes.

The house is really pissed off at amanda after last night. Apparently she was spreading rumors which caused elissa to confront kaitlin about her alliance with howard, spancer and candice...Elissa demanded that Kaitlin confront the house because apparently there was a movement to keep aaryn?? But then it eventually came out it was Amanda spreading rumors and leaking secrets. Led to a HUGE blow up between Amanda and Howard apparently. I may not be 100% accurate but thats the gist of it based on live feed tweeters



[Edited on July 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM. Reason : f]

7/24/2013 12:15:09 PM

...and Judd was searching Howards bed for his "special magic power"

based on the tweets the houseguests are getting stir crazy or "midseason freakouts"

7/24/2013 12:28:43 PM

I cannot stand Judds accent, Just the way he talks in general annoys the shit out if me

7/24/2013 9:13:21 PM

soooo, america votes elissa MVP every week then all of a sudden wants her gone? does not compute

7/24/2013 9:47:14 PM

Sure it does. She's a fairly polarizing person. It seems you either love her or hate her. Let's just say for example that 30% of people love her, and the other 70% are sane individuals and can't stand her melted crayon looking face or annoying as nails on a chalkboard voice.

Now, using these numbers as an example, if you have a vote for MVP, the 30% of the moronic mouthbreathers that like her (assuming they can figure out how to vote) are going to vote for her to win MVP again because they are too stupid to see how it is completely ruining the entire season having her win every week. The other 70% of the vote is going to be split up among the other dozen or so housemates, and there really isn't a standout among them, it wouldn't be surprising to see a random scattering of votes for all the people in there, meaning everyone else gets around 6% of the vote. Of course there will be more for some, and less for others, but 30% is still plenty of a margin to overcome for 2nd place.

Now, flip that vote to see who gets put up for nominations, and it's easy to see who gets the most votes. In this scenario, she receives 70% of the votes and gets put up easily. This, of course is ignoring the fact that Aaryn probably had the most votes of everyone, but since she was already up they went to the 2nd or 3rd place vote (note: I haven't watched tonight's episode yet, so maybe I'm wrong, but I do assume that America's vote wasn't actually for elissa in the first place). Hell, if you take that into account, it's possible that Aaryn got 90% of the vote, Katlyn got 5% and America's sweetheart came in 3rd place with only 2% or something.

But yeah. TL;DR, it's really not that uncommon for a polarizing personality to be at the top of the most loved and most hated list.

7/24/2013 10:28:11 PM

^ahhh i didn't think about that. She could easily have been lower on the list than 1st, and it would be very unsurprising that Kaitlyn and/or Aaryn had more votes because they are wretched cunts

7/24/2013 10:47:37 PM

I just watched the episode. Helen even says that right before they announce the 3rd nom that America could have voted Aaryn and Katlyn as 1 and 2 and Elissa as #3. The producers had to have dropped that in there as a way to tell you that that's exactly what happened.

7/24/2013 10:52:12 PM

dang i just finished watching the episode a little bit ago and totally missed that. she's a smart one, that Helen

7/24/2013 10:59:10 PM

She seems to be the only one who even thought of the America scenario b/c everyone else in the house is freaking out trying to figure out who is the HOH...

Some of them even think it was still Elissa and she put up herself to throw off the hounds.

7/25/2013 6:28:45 AM

Nah the producers are just trying to make Helen out to be the smart one in a house full of idiots. They all know it was America. Things are a lot more open in the house then the show makes it out to be, everyone knows who the mvp is, who voted for who, etc.

7/25/2013 7:30:40 AM

it was actually andy that first figured out that it was probably america that voted

the next HOH challenge is looking to be a complete shot in the dark type challenge where literally anyone can win. They were practicing skills last night for it and it was like rollling a ball into a bucket down a chute or something. BB set that up for them to practice for one hour and then they locked the ouse down to build the actual challenge

^i dont think Helen has demonstrated much intelligence at all, Id say Amanda has displayed the most intelligence in the house overall as far as figuring things out

[Edited on July 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM. Reason : e]

7/25/2013 12:42:19 PM

easy on the spoilers BHS

BB threads have been very sensitive to that in the past

7/25/2013 2:24:51 PM