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6/5/2013 9:21:22 PM

ahahaha

Restricted is my favorite cop ever

he won page two and he won my heart

6/5/2013 9:30:01 PM

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"Sprinkle some crackstolen scooter on them and let's get out of here."

The best part is, since scooters don't have registration, they can say any scooter is stolen. Even if it was stolen, maybe the driver bought it in good faith with no way to know.

Any civilian in this situation would be in jail for months at a minimum pending trial.

[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 9:56 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2013 9:51:51 PM

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"The best part is, since scooters don't have registration, they can say any scooter is stolen. Even if it was stolen, maybe the driver bought it in good faith with no way to know. Any civilian in this situation would be in jail for months at a minimum."

Everything you say is so fucking stupid.

Scooters CAN be registered, and they all have VIN's.

6/5/2013 9:56:55 PM

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"The photo on there does help clear up everything, but you obviously know nothing about what you're talking about. Do you see all of the debris near the beginning and even before the skid? The POI happened before the skid happened almost for certain just by looking at the pictures. Do you think cars start to break apart and tear to pieces when they enter a skid?"

If you believe the press release (which you clearly do) do you think the debris trail starts at the POI? If you say yes you need go go take some basic physics classes. When a head on accident occurs (which is what you apparently believe happened) pieces of the scooter would continue flying down the road (remember it was apparently traveling at 53 mph). It is also interesting that apparently the police officer made no attempt to slam on his breaks in advance of the wreck. Also 4 sets of skid marks are highly indicitive of a vehicle that has lost control. I wonder what 80 mph in a POS police cruiser would feel like cresting that hill. Cop losing control of the car and hitting a moped is not at all unlikely given the situaiton.

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"If you read the press release and look at the photo it's pretty cut and dry. The police car was attempting to catch up to a speeder. During which time it crested the hill where it met the moped head on in HIS lane of travel. At the point of impact with the moped it's safe to assume the officer slammed on his brakes and attempted to avoid the moped and over-corrected etc. The moped was not hit from behind, it was not hit in it's own lane of travel."

and this is all according to the police officer and his buddies who "investigated" him. We should all just believe that right? I personally have known people who have been hit by police officers who were speeding without lights in (70 in a 35) who immediately did everything they could to dodge the situation (to the point that the "investigating" officers were confiscating the cell phones of witnesses who took pictures) so no I know better than to trust this "investigation".

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"been drove"

About the level of intelligence I would expect out of a police officer. How long have you been on the force? High school diploma? GED?

6/5/2013 10:04:45 PM

Very few scooters are ever registered. How remarkable that this one was.

[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 10:09 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2013 10:06:09 PM

Updated info with names and photos of the two killed. The pictures there do look like the POI was in the policeman's lane and then he skidded into the other lane.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/06/05/2940323/police-car-crash-closes-section.html

6/5/2013 10:11:17 PM

^^^even if it was the cop's fault, you make it sound like he ran them over in cold blood. either way, it was clearly an accident.

and pretty needless low blow on restricted, for that matter. go fuck yourself.

[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 10:13 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2013 10:13:48 PM

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"^^^even if it was the cop's fault, you make it sound like he ran them over in cold blood. either way, it was clearly an accident. and pretty needless low blow on restricted, for that matter. go fuck yourself."

That was his attempt at a low blow on me.

Yes I'm a police officer, YES I MADE A TYPO.

I graduated from NCSU, Computer Science.... Oops.

[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 10:19 PM. Reason : quote]

6/5/2013 10:19:20 PM

that's not a typo

6/5/2013 10:22:44 PM

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"and this is all according to the police officer and his buddies who "investigated" him. We should all just believe that right? I personally have known people who have been hit by police officers who were speeding without lights in (70 in a 35) who immediately did everything they could to dodge the situation (to the point that the "investigating" officers were confiscating the cell phones of witnesses who took pictures) so no I know better than to trust this "investigation". "

Just so you know things don't happen that way anywhere in a place such as Raleigh, an accredited police department which will throw it's own officers under the bus and hang everyone out to dry if they don't follow policy and state law.

Raleigh Police actually writes their own officers tickets for speeding and not wearing safety belts. Their policies are some of the most strict and internal investigations don't leave questions to be asked.

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"that's not a typo"

Yes, you're correct... Grammatical error due to not reading after more than one thought was being typed. I apologize.

[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 10:26 PM. Reason : quote]

6/5/2013 10:23:31 PM

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"^^^even if it was the cop's fault, you make it sound like he ran them over in cold blood. either way, it was clearly an accident."

Clearly you are just as stupid. I never implied it was on purpose. However, if you believe the account that ultraspank is trying to push apparently the cop waited until after the wreck occurred to slam on the breaks (and the car was clearly not travelling forward at this point in time 4 skidmarks remember). Just pointing out these little inconsistencies that don't jive with the statement.

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" Just so you know things don't happen that way anywhere in a place such as Raleigh, an accredited police department which will throw it's own officers under the bus and hang everyone out to dry if they don't follow policy and state law. "

I call bullshit on this one as well. THIS INCIDENT INVOLVED RPD and it occurred in Raleigh.
Before you try and allege that this incident was taken care of appropriately the officer in question is still employed and it actually appears that he has received a promotion since then (this was only 3-4 years ago).


[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 10:34 PM. Reason : One more thing]

6/5/2013 10:29:39 PM

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"But, if the officer was running stationary radar, and a vehicle passes it at 55 mph, the officer has to accelerate faster than 55 mph to catch up and close that gap."

Obviously. But if they have to drive over a reasonable speed to catch the speeder, then they should not pursue them themselves. Otherwise they are putting more people in danger than the speeder. Especially when they don't have their lights on. I wouldn't be surprised if the cop caught air going over that crest.

6/5/2013 10:29:48 PM

As an occasionally frequent viewer of Cops & now Cops Reloaded, I assume cops catch air over crests all the time. The camera-man in the back seat surely gets airborne.

6/5/2013 10:43:41 PM

how convenient for the cops that the only credible witnesses are dead

6/5/2013 10:49:30 PM

I haven't even read a lot of this thread...

Simple case of some hot head cop being too over zealous and too heavy on the throttle. We've all seen it.

77 in a 35? What warrants that?

POLICE OUT OF CONTROL.

6/5/2013 10:50:35 PM

***NOTHING NEW***

6/5/2013 10:52:11 PM

77 in a 35 is wreckless driving. That cop was not trying to catch anything.

6/5/2013 10:54:47 PM

^^^^
To the past 4-5 trolls and cop haters.

There are "witnesses" .... Every patrol car has a camera.


But this obviously goes the same place any thread ever made about police goes.

So, I'm done.

6/5/2013 10:59:40 PM

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"Quote : "Sprinkle some crackstolen scooter on them and let's get out of here." The best part is, since scooters don't have registration, they can say any scooter is stolen. Even if it was stolen, maybe the driver bought it in good faith with no way to know. Any civilian in this situation would be in jail for months at a minimum pending trial. [Edited on June 5, 2013 at 9:56 PM. Reason : .] "

Usually in situations like this the trails are days after an arrest.

6/5/2013 11:03:08 PM

Ultraspank, you aren't done, bro

lezbehonest

6/5/2013 11:07:29 PM

He said he was

6/5/2013 11:13:14 PM

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"There are "witnesses" .... Every patrol car has a camera."

So I assume that means we will see the camera footage, and there won't be some kind of "unforseen" malfuction resulting in the recording being deleted.

6/5/2013 11:25:25 PM

I'll say this much...

I reside in Wake Forest. From 2004-2012, I worked a late night job near Capital and 440. I would get off around 3 AM. I traveled the Capital corridor, late at night, many many times.

I can tell you right on, that the cops who patrol that stretch of road and its surrounding areas, at that time of night, do so very aggressively. I personally drive a nice MB that I keep pretty clean. They rarely look twice at me.

Granted... Alleged driver who was running 50 mph that Lead Foot Cop was supposedly trying to catch up to is an idiot for driving like that, in that part of town, at that time of night.

But 77 in a 35? Typical shit from arrogant, jacked up cops. I wouldn't be the first to suggest that there's a "culture" of this type of behavior amongst America's police officers.

[Edited on June 5, 2013 at 11:48 PM. Reason : .]

6/5/2013 11:45:28 PM

***NOTHING NEW***

I hope the victim's families get a PHAT settlement from the city.

6/5/2013 11:47:49 PM

^ Speaking of the families, my coworker at my new job told me today she got a call this morning regarding her nephew who was killed on the scooter.

6/6/2013 12:42:53 AM

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/06/05/2940323/police-car-crash-closes-section.html

Does it bother anyone else that over half of that article talks about the criminal pasts of the dead victims?

Did the cop watch the 50 mph vehicle and manually calculate the speed before utilizing his radar to confirm?

6/6/2013 1:54:45 AM

That is normal in america. When something fucked up happens its always time to bring in shit that doesn't matter. This is like the Tre'von martin case. Kid gets killed but its ok he was a pot head.

77 on the wrong side of the road in a 35, must of been one hell of a drag race.

AND GOING DOWNHILL AT THAT

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"Riley intended to catch up with the scooter and pull it over, but had not yet initiated the pursuit when it crossed the centerline at 3:16 a.m. and crashed head-on with Crews’ cruiser just east of Brentwood Road in northeast Raleigh, according to police spokesman Jim Sughrue. "

The scooter was in the right lane....

[Edited on June 6, 2013 at 5:27 AM. Reason : ..]

6/6/2013 5:23:10 AM

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"has to accelerate faster than 55 mph "

55mph is not an acceleration. You can not accelerate faster than 55 mph, that doesn't make sense.

6/6/2013 6:20:47 AM

For the record, the are most likely yaw marks and not skid marks. /engineers

6/6/2013 7:08:04 AM

Speed limits are a fucking joke. Its all about making money

6/6/2013 7:09:43 AM

killed two innocents and didnt even catch the speeder

failcop.gif

6/6/2013 7:57:48 AM

Maybe he should be Furloughed

6/6/2013 8:29:14 AM

or Furlonged.

6/6/2013 8:44:34 AM

When did TWW become a bunch of cop hating liberal pussies with PHDs in forensic reconstruction?

6/6/2013 8:51:53 AM

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"push apparently the cop waited until after the wreck occurred to slam on the breaks (and the car was clearly not travelling forward at this point in time 4 skidmarks remember). Just pointing out these little inconsistencies that don't jive with the statement."

Except you conveniently ignore the fact that the wreck occurred in the dead of night, just past the crest of a hill, and the scooter had a malfunctioning headlight. I mean, I always brake before hitting things that I can't see too.

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"77 in a 35? What warrants that?"

Catching up to a person going 55 in that same 35 mph zone is what warranted the high speed. Pretty hard to catch up to someone without going faster than them....

6/6/2013 8:56:58 AM

No one seems to be mentioning that the scooter's speed was 47mph... 12 over the speed limit as well... and that it was stolen.

6/6/2013 9:01:51 AM

That's because none of that information is from a reliable source yet.

6/6/2013 9:15:09 AM

Oh... thats right, the police aren't a reliable source.

6/6/2013 9:19:45 AM

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"That's because none of that information is from a reliable source yet."

But your thread title is right, and everything else you've said in here

6/6/2013 9:22:58 AM

Not when their career and prison time is on the line...No, they're only human and hardly impartial, no matter the best of intentions. Why the dashcam video hasn't been released yet is astounding. I assure you that any silly concerns about the dignity of the dead are far outweighed by family members that want answers. Perhaps there is no dash cam footage since neither car had their lights on.

In that case I declare no fault in this incident. Please delete this thread. I apologize for bringing attention to such a trivial matter.

[Edited on June 6, 2013 at 9:37 AM. Reason : .]

6/6/2013 9:25:31 AM

When has it ever been par the course to release dashcam footage of fatal accidents in which the victims sustain injuries from their heads impacting the windshield? Graphic footage of that nature is usually contained to a courtroom without reporters if a case ever makes it to trial, not released as liveleak content for the morbidly inclined.

[Edited on June 6, 2013 at 9:52 AM. Reason : ...]

6/6/2013 9:36:27 AM

These guys had it coming anyway.

6/6/2013 9:38:51 AM

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"Restricted is my favorite cop ever "

Let us not forget krosser! without whom, we would be not nearly as bitter towards the police

but yeah restricted keeps it real

and he's not a bully!

6/6/2013 12:19:21 PM

I'm going to go ahead and say that the cop was simply trying to meet his quota and make $300 for the state.

2 people died so the DOT can fix a perfectly good road in an upper-middle class neighborhood. Meanwhile, the families of the deceased will grieve and i'll continue to fuck up my alignment by hitting the 6 or 8 potholes that have existed on my road for several years.

6/7/2013 12:06:31 AM

sup state oz

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

6/7/2013 12:07:39 AM

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"I'm going to go ahead and say that the cop was simply trying to meet his quota and make $300 for the state. "

Yep. This is exactly what happened.

6/7/2013 5:49:21 AM

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", an accredited police department which will throw it's own officers under the bus and hang everyone out to dry if they don't follow policy and state law."

Only been skimming but interesting you consider asking officer to follow rules and punishing those that don't to be throwing under the bus and hanging out to dry.

Also writing speeding tickets and prosecuting for crimes are orders of magnitude apart.

6/7/2013 7:39:49 AM

yeah, that lets you know that the more common (and expected) behavior in his department is to cover that shit up

i'd like to thank that stupid pig Ultraspank for being unintentionally enlightening

6/7/2013 8:11:32 AM

BAD COP NO DONUT

6/7/2013 8:15:38 AM