y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah that's because they're feral uncontrollable apes, right?
I mean it has nothing to do with institutionalized racism, poverty, the long-term effects of slavery, broken homes, the war on drugs, police profiling, the economy, etc. etc. etc." |
Often times when I'm wronged for racial reasons I attack someone of my own race rather than those of the oppressor group.
Actually it's historical fact that the oppressed never turn on the oppressor and only act inwardly.7/16/2013 3:16:32 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 52880 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ warning shots are not illegal if it's on my land" |
Umm, she wasn't on "her land" and they weren't warning shots. Not unless you consider it a "warning shot" to go to your car, retrieve a gun, return, and shoot at someone.7/16/2013 6:56:02 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Actually it's historical fact that the oppressed never turn on the oppressor and only act inwardly." |
You're one of the dumbest people in your city, town, or municipality, without a doubt, yo.7/16/2013 7:04:02 PM |
wizzkidd All American 1668 Posts user info edit post |
I'm a 30yr old white guy, who is anti gun control, who makes more than $100K/Yr (when you include benefits) and typically votes Libertarian.
I thought GZ was guilty until I heard the facts of the case. I still believe that had the state gone for manslaughter throughout the trial, they may have gotten a conviction. The defense (and the prosecution) gave me enough evidence for me to go from thinking he was guilty, to thinking: "well... maybe he is, but they certainly didn't prove it" 7/16/2013 7:12:05 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
^^Good lord, sarcasm fail.
God doesn't deserve serious posts.
[Edited on July 16, 2013 at 8:18 PM. Reason : everyone knows this] 7/16/2013 8:16:54 PM |
xvang All American 3468 Posts user info edit post |
Innocent until proven guilty. This is always my stance. And it should be that of any American who values freedom and justice.
[Edited on July 16, 2013 at 9:34 PM. Reason : bam] 7/16/2013 9:32:08 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
I'm back. I hate that this thread went on the same tangent as all the others, I was just curious.
ps - Looks like God never gets tired of carrying water.
good lord man 7/17/2013 3:13:24 AM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
this thread is becoming too long, need to make a new one to keep it down to just one page 7/17/2013 7:09:36 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52765 Posts user info edit post |
I went from thinking that Zimmerman was a jackass who used poor judgment but committed no crime...
To thinking that is possibly the case, but there's also a good chance that he didn't do anything wrong, let alone illegal.
...and in either case, the prosecution's case against him was laughable, and it speaks poorly of our criminal justice system that they would even bring a case like that to court and seek a conviction. If Zimmerman hadn't had a good lawyer (and/or had been black and/or not presented himself as a normal, middle-class citizen), who knows what would have happened.
Our justice system has problems, but not in that Zimmerman got off--he never should've been in court to begin with. The problem is what happens to people like him every day who are dark or poor or poorly spoken or from the wrong neighborhood or some combination of the above. That, and we collectively made a valiant attempt at institutionalized mob justice, and we can't tolerate the institution doing that. 7/17/2013 9:51:42 AM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The problem is what happens to people like him every day who are dark or poor or poorly spoken or from the wrong neighborhood or some combination of the above." |
Uh, are you sure you're talking about the right person? Who is the victim here?7/17/2013 10:20:51 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52765 Posts user info edit post |
You are completely missing the point of that sentence, due to the fact that you're retarded and willfully avoiding objective thought. 7/17/2013 7:56:02 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
it's a he-said he-said, with the problem being that one of the "he's" is dead.
we will never truly know how the conflict started.
i'm sick of people saying trayvon jumped zimmerman as though it is fact.
for all we know zimmerman flashed his gun and legitimately threatened to take trayvon's life before any physical contact.
or not. don't know.
[Edited on July 17, 2013 at 8:18 PM. Reason : .] 7/17/2013 8:17:55 PM |
Lilkidthings All American 4923 Posts user info edit post |
He killed a guy. Murder or not he has to live with it. I think after hearing the trial the verdict was appropriate. 7/17/2013 9:10:47 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Usually people resort to stuff like that when they're backed into a corner and they can't explain their point.
Care to fill me on in one you mean then? How is he a victim?
[Edited on July 17, 2013 at 9:17 PM. Reason : ] 7/17/2013 9:16:41 PM |
bonerjamz 04 All American 3217 Posts user info edit post |
7/17/2013 9:23:47 PM |
BubbleBobble :3 114219 Posts user info edit post |
>internet full of text and opinions >plz no tangents.
good luck there bruuuuuh 7/17/2013 9:32:03 PM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
^^holy shit that is amazing
I'm Krallum and I approved this message. 7/17/2013 9:35:32 PM |
Bullet All American 28267 Posts user info edit post |
[old], but i wouldn't be surprised if that's how it happened. crazy vigilante stalks teenager through is own neighborhood. teenager is scared and flights. crazy vigilante starts chasing him. in the heat of the moment, teenager stops fLighting, turns, and starts fighting. teenager begins to pummel crazy vigilante. crazy vigilante pulls a gun and shoots teenager. teenager dies. crazy vigilante wins.
or it might have happened a lot differently. we don't know. 7/17/2013 9:49:35 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52765 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^ I don't think it's tough to see how Zimmerman was potentially 100% victim here, or potentially at least a victim guilty of nothing but poor judgment (along with poor judgment on the part of Martin).
It's also very possible that Zimmerman was harassing Martin, or even that he truly instigated the altercation by threatening him/trying to detain him, etc. I find that very last scenario less likely, but nonetheless possible
but:
The reason for my comment about you missing the point is that the statement you referenced wasn't calling Zimmerman a victim to begin with, or even about Zimmerman at all.
[Edited on July 17, 2013 at 11:14 PM. Reason : goddamn, out of my entire post, you pick the liberal, pro-poor minority part to dispute?] 7/17/2013 11:10:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148231 Posts user info edit post |
yall going to the grand opening of Club Levelz?
7/17/2013 11:47:26 PM |
joepeshi All American 8094 Posts user info edit post |
Yes 7/18/2013 12:00:55 AM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
^^ just more black people exploiting this whole situation. it's sad really!
7/18/2013 8:28:34 AM |
mofopaack Veteran 434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2013/07/18/exp-pmt-larry-elder-stupid-rachel-jeantel.cnn#/video/bestoftv/2013/07/18/exp-pmt-larry-elder-stupid-rachel-jeantel.cnn 7/18/2013 2:10:51 PM |
Krallum 56A0D3 15294 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's sad really!" |
actually I think its pretty funny
I'm Krallum and I approved this message.7/18/2013 2:11:51 PM |
GKMatt All American 2426 Posts user info edit post |
^x5 $100 dollar bottles before midnight 7/18/2013 2:37:00 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
dolla dolla billz yo 7/18/2013 3:14:34 PM |