amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
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Talage All American 5092 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Gott knows some serious skeletons in Lutz closet" |
Nah, he just withdrew because he is gonna go to Dayton after Archie Miller takes the Wake Forest job.3/28/2014 6:06:28 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Gott knows some serious skeletons in Lutz closet" |
probably the other way around. Lutz knows he's a Coed away from coaching NC State. haha3/28/2014 6:28:20 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I'd buy ^ before I would buy ^^ 3/28/2014 6:30:38 PM |
DalCowboys All American 1945 Posts user info edit post |
Lutz wants to ride the TJ train to a championship 3/28/2014 8:35:02 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
USF take two
3/31/2014 2:05:08 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
BC may hire Jim Christian from Ohio? I have no clue who that is.
I know they are the fifteenth best program in the ACC and the seventh best in New England but I guess they are just not even trying anymore. 4/1/2014 9:32:23 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I think their last list of coaches consisted of assistants to mid-majors and the assistant to Syracuse who everyone knows is going to take over for Boeheim so whatever gig he gets is only going to last like 3 years.
And who is Wake looking at right now? 4/1/2014 10:34:45 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Hopkins would have been a great hire for BC. Which is why he isn't an option now per the media.
[Edited on April 1, 2014 at 10:36 AM. Reason : It's a tough sell to go to BC for bball though, to be fair] 4/1/2014 10:35:56 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
And Wojo to Marquette is official.
Too bad I have to hate their program now. Most importantly who is going to give interviews while K re-dyes his hair at halftime? 4/1/2014 10:42:17 AM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
duke losing an assistant is never a bad thing. 4/1/2014 11:08:45 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
word on the street is Danny Manning to Wake is about to be official.
May work out well but goes to show how badly damaged the Wake job was by Bzdelik. 4/2/2014 10:53:59 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
I'll put more fault on Wellman than Bzdelik. Bzdelik is what he was, and is. Wellman is ultimately accountable for the health of the various sports programs at Wake. He fired Gaudio, a great recruiter, and a good coach on one side of the ball (can't remember if it was his defense or offense that sucked).
Rather than get the best coach he could find (at this time Wake was still an upgrade over most programs with up-and-coming coaches), he hires his buddy from Colorado with an abysmal career to that point. And even with a huge upgrade in talent (Gaudio's incoming class of 5 was #8 in the country, and they all ended up coming to Wake anyway), he still proved to be a worse coach than Sidney Lowe.
Wellman should be fired too. He's their Lee Fowler. I have no particular love or hate for Wake, but as an outsider looking in-- he fucked over that basketball program.
Some historical context: http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/tag/_/name/dino-gaudio
Danny Manning would certainly be an upgrade from Bzzz, but then again, anyone who posts in Sports Talk would be an upgrade.. even Earl and burro. But given the quality of ACC programs even 3 years ago vs now, what the fuck is going on when VT hires Buzz Williams, and Wake is an unattractive gig?
[Edited on April 2, 2014 at 1:04 PM. Reason : Wellman's gotta go.] 4/2/2014 1:01:40 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^Absolutely agree, should have elaborated to the point that Bz never should have been hired.
That said, Wellman has a better reputation even now than Lee Fowler ever did. 4/2/2014 1:16:58 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Kelvin Sampson to Houston.
AAC cornering the market for shady old coaches with Brown and him. USF should have hired Pearl for the show-cause trifecta. 4/2/2014 3:10:34 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Wake Forest hiring a coach or a scene from the new season of 24?
4/2/2014 3:18:47 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I can only guess that a coach would look at VT and see the proximity good recruiting grounds (VA Tidewater area, Baltimore, and DC), a rather large school with resources, and not having to compete with that many big schools in state.
With Wake you're having to compete with UNC/Duke/State for any local guys...and if you go outside of the state, you're going to have a tough time getting kids to come to a small, private, Baptist school. Not that Virginia Tech is crazy diverse...but it's got to be tough to get black kids to come to rich white private schools if your name isn't Duke/Stanford. I bet most young kids don't know that Tim Duncan went there and it even feels like forever since Sir Nut Punch was tearing up the ACC.
Then you throw in Wellman/Dino/Bzzzz fiasco and the fact that they've been the ACC whipping boy for the past 3 or 4 years...and you have an unattractive destination for a coach. Now you can see why VT got a coach like Buzz and Wake is having to take a HUGE risk on a two year coach. 4/2/2014 3:26:10 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
There was a few articles recently that quoted insiders calling Wake the ninth best job in the ACC before the four Big East additions... citing many of the above.
I believe only BC and Tech were listed below. 4/2/2014 3:29:17 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/CoachDManning/status/447520095074390016 4/2/2014 3:33:23 PM |
DoeoJ has 7062 Posts user info edit post |
so state is no longer the worst job in NC?
4/2/2014 3:39:24 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he still proved to be a worse coach than Sidney Lowe. " |
nope.
and as far as VT goes
Quote : | " a rather large school with resources" |
they might have resources, but basketball hasn't gotten any of them, ever. maybe their new AD will change that (seems like he already has, with the money he threw at Buzz). i would imagine selling kids on playing basketball in blacksburg is harder than getting them to go to winston-salem. have you ever been to blacksburg? there's not a whole lot there and there is NOTHING around it.4/2/2014 4:16:22 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
But you can take recruits to exciting football games and house parties that actually have black people at them during their visits (and better looking girls). What the hell do recruits do during a visit to Wake...go to Krispy Kreme headquarters?? 4/2/2014 5:45:29 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
^
4/2/2014 5:52:34 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Wake needs to make a good hire. While Boeheim and Dixon consistently have teams that don't finish well they are very good to great coaches. In a league with Pitino, K, Roy, Boeheim, Dixon, Bennett, Tilda and Buzz they better keep pace or they will join BC for the foreseeable future in the land of the irrelevant.
[Edited on April 2, 2014 at 6:10 PM. Reason : x] 4/2/2014 6:10:25 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Back when I was stupid enough to read SFN, they had a glowing post about how awesome Wellman was in contrast to Fowler because of all the success that Grobe had. But not just that, really sucking Wellman's dick. And granted, there are few ADs worse than Fowler, but just thought that was kinda funny. 4/2/2014 6:35:50 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Eh...Wellman has still done well with football. He might have held on to Grobe for a little too long...but it's still Wake Forest football, so it's not like they're suppose to always be above average.
His basketball decisions have been pretty horrible though. So he's batting .500. Which is still much better than Fowler. 4/2/2014 6:39:42 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Wake to VPI on this carousel:
4/3/2014 10:10:34 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Lol BC.
Jim Christian? Really?
If VT hit a HR then BC took first on a dropped third strike. 4/3/2014 1:23:52 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10726791/wake-forest-agrees-tulsa-danny-manning
I know nothing about this guy, but apparently a lot of good coaches come out of Tulsa 4/4/2014 11:30:45 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah. Danny Manning is a relative unknown in the basketball world. 4/4/2014 11:36:41 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
as a head coach, carpetbagger 4/4/2014 1:13:38 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
is danny manning another brother of peyton?
i've never heard of him. 4/4/2014 3:10:31 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I think he's the retarded one with the hurt back.. 4/4/2014 3:12:32 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
so wake hired the NY Giants qb to coach football? 4/4/2014 3:20:46 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Rex Chapman breaking Calipari news? 4/7/2014 8:11:23 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Wow. Cal must like getting fired. (If true)
[Edited on April 7, 2014 at 8:35 PM. Reason : Cal to Lakers rumor for the uninformed] 4/7/2014 8:34:20 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/rexchapman
dude's twitter feed is money 4/7/2014 8:38:34 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
So Cal to Louisville in 3 years? 4/7/2014 9:21:40 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
So Gott to Kentucky? 4/7/2014 9:31:14 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Cuonzo to Cal
Damn, just when my Vols were getting good 4/15/2014 1:20:43 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, just saw that... very odd. Just got a pretty big commitment yesterday. Well, a LOT of people wanted him gone so you got what you asked for bitches, let's see who steps in... 4/15/2014 1:24:41 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Why was that guy so eager to get out of Tennessee?? Didn't he interview for the Marquette job too? I thought he was an alum.
^ Why the fuck did people want him gone? Some guy on sports radio down here in Charleston (which is fucking horrible)...was bitching about Martin after they won they play-in game. He was mostly bitching about Pearl going to Auburn and said that Tennessee should have gone back after him (ruh-tard)...but he made it sound like Martin was awful.
When did Tennessee set their basketball standards as high as football's?
[Edited on April 15, 2014 at 1:27 PM. Reason : .] 4/15/2014 1:25:00 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ Why the fuck did people want him gone?" |
I thought Cuonzo was terrible for the talent he had on his squads.
Stokes/Maymon was as good as anyone in the NCAA in the post.4/15/2014 1:29:49 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Because he had to follow up Bruce, but wasnt Bruce. Bruce is treated like a god in Knoxville. There was a petition going around donors to get him fired, etc. He was asked by Marquette but pulled his name out, which makes it even weirder... would totally pick Marquette over Cal.
Martin seemed really consistent, but yeah, didnt get a lot out of the talent. I would have preferred him to stay just for continuity's sake but its not like they are replacing Coach K or anything so I am curious to see who they will get. I am MORE curious as to why the fuck did he pick Cal.
[Edited on April 15, 2014 at 1:33 PM. Reason : d] 4/15/2014 1:30:54 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe he likes the West Coast? I'd much rather be in Cali than Wisconsin. I'd only choose a shitty destination as a coach if it was one of the top tier jobs (like Storrs, Gainesville, or Durham). 4/15/2014 1:40:11 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Picking Cal over Marquette is a weird move. I figured he was just going to hold out for another year or two after he decided to stay a couple weeks ago, maybe until Purdue fires Matt Painter, but I guess he really wanted out. I don't blame him, he was in a no win scenario there. People wanted gone if they missed the Tourney. And not just the loon fans like us
[Edited on April 15, 2014 at 2:16 PM. Reason : guess he didnt go to enough womens bball games] 4/15/2014 2:15:30 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I am MORE curious as to why the fuck did he pick Cal." |
it's always odd when an east coast guy takes a west coast job.4/15/2014 2:22:42 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
@GaryParrishCBS: And Cuonzo just got his first recruit. (Kid was committed to Tennessee this AM.) RT @Kingokoroh: I announce my commitment to California. 4/15/2014 2:23:31 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
cal basketball is a joke. surprising move. 4/15/2014 3:26:50 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
rumored candidates:
Gregg Marshall at Wichita State - easier to win where he is, but money would be higher at UT Tony Bennett at UVA - lateral move? has a good thing going where he is Tim Miles at Nebraska - dont really know much about him Richard Pitino at Minnesota - interesting... does a lot with little talent. 4/15/2014 3:34:47 PM |