death cab Veteran 266 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Quote : "Preseason expectations: http://www.wralsportsfan.com/look-for-unc-nc-state-atop-preseason-polls/14549212/
Predicting we'll start at the top of the conference, but I don't know that I agree with that prediction."
If he had any credibility left, I think 'ol Caulton Tudor lost it when he failed to mention us losing Turner and instead said we may suffer the absence of Desmond Lee.
UNC is easily #1 in ACC and top 5 nationally if they don't lose anyone to NBA or transfers. I don't see Brogdan or Anderson leaving UVa so I think they are ahead of us. It's hard to predict us ahead of Duke just based on history and the fact they have a pretty decent coach there. I could see us being predicted 4th preseason but there's going to be a lot of talent at Louisville, FSU, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Miami.
And our conference slate looks pretty tough. I predict us 10-8, around 6th in conference and again in the 7-10 range in the NCAAs." |
Quote : | "^ How is UNC easily #1 if UVA doesn't lose Anderson and Brogdan? " |
^fair enough.
Given that I predict Anderson and Brogdan are coming back and UVa has won the last 2 ACC regular seasons, I shouldn't say UNC is easily first next year. But I think they have the most overall talent. I think Justin Jackson is going to be more of a consisent force next year and that Paige will be healthy and the team less dependent on him as their go to scorer. I think an extra year makes UNC more consistent and with the talent they have, if they can be consistent then they will be dangerous.
But I can't argue with anyone picking UVa given what they've done the last two years. Either way, both teams are clearly ahead of us preseason. I'm still hoping for some UNC defections.
[Edited on March 30, 2015 at 9:38 PM. Reason : new page/context]
[Edited on March 30, 2015 at 9:39 PM. Reason : .]3/30/2015 9:36:49 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Although the ACC Tournament will leave Greensboro for the Verizon Center in Washington, D.C. (March 8-12, 2016), there will be NCAA second and third round games in Raleigh’s PNC Arena.
With a top-four regional seed, the Tar Heels almost certainly would start in Raleigh, as would one other highly-seeded ACC team other than State." |
NC State shit would be miracling into a #1 seed and having to travel to Brooklyn instead of Raleigh.3/30/2015 9:39:58 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I hope people realize the top 2 acc teams will likely be top 5 in the country all year and the next 3 will be top 15. You think we're at that level?
Paige is the only defection that would hurt UNC. They are just so deep all over the place. I know they'll be good as long as Tony is there but How is UVA's rim protection without Atkins. Its nitpicking but thats what being #1 requires. I could see UVA 1 but also as low as 5 in the deep conference. Theres just too many good teams.
[Edited on March 30, 2015 at 10:43 PM. Reason : k] 3/30/2015 10:42:35 PM |
sag1804 All American 914 Posts user info edit post |
I'll take Brooklyn for the first two rounds and then south regional in Louisville please. (second vote is philly) 3/31/2015 3:06:30 AM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, we would be that good if we played even average defense for our talent level but I'm not delusional. 3/31/2015 10:18:14 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
UNC and UVA should be the favorites. Top of the conference won't be as strong as I expect Duke, ND and UL to regress (the latter quite a bit) but the conference is going to have far more depth this season.
Quote : | "I hope people realize the top 2 acc teams will likely be top 5 in the country all year and the next 3 will be top 15." |
Highly doubt the second part of this will be the case.
[Edited on March 31, 2015 at 10:47 AM. Reason : But it's Earl ]3/31/2015 10:46:13 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
UNC and UVA will definitely be in contention for the #1 spot, but Louisville is bringing in a top 5 recruiting class and Duke has a top 10 class and both have HOF coaches. I imagine they'll both be top 25 all year along with UNC and UVA.
NC State, Miami, and FSU should all be better next year based on this season, what they're returning, and incoming classes. Syracuse has a top 10 class but lose Christmas, so I imagine they'll be similar to this year.
We were preseason #10 this year, I imagine we'll be preseason #5 or so next year if we don't lose anyone.
Going to be a tough year in conference, never bank on teams with HoF coaches to have "down" years. Yeah Duke loses 3-4 key players, but they'll still end up being solid. 3/31/2015 12:53:05 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
McCullough is gone. Earl at this rate your boys aren't even going to be able to print their undefeated Novmber tees.
Pretty much guaranteed to be better than Cuse next year (and I'd say UL too) 4/2/2015 11:45:06 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I mean I think we will but asking NC State to guarantee being better than anyone may be pushing it haha 4/2/2015 12:17:24 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
you guys know that lacey or cat is turning their ankle in game 2 next year right 4/2/2015 12:45:46 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
HE IS NOW, ASSHOLE 4/2/2015 12:59:26 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
I just hope we reach the Final Four next year... 4/4/2015 7:23:15 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, a final four would be pretty sweet. 4/4/2015 11:50:16 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
https://vine.co/v/OlTOTgdwBuz/embed/simple
Just live vicariously through other red teams 4/5/2015 5:49:18 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
i'm 100% positive NC State will never have that kind of success for as long as i live. 4/5/2015 5:58:48 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
That's russell Wilson's schooooooool 4/5/2015 9:52:56 AM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
I am ready for a countdown clock. 4/6/2015 9:17:28 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Watching these schools perform shows how far away we still are from competing on this level...its sobering 4/6/2015 9:35:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
I mean. We did beat one of these teams by double digits this season. 4/6/2015 9:41:38 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
We have no problem playing on this level. Our problem is playing on low levels. 4/6/2015 9:45:43 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Its gonna be a long painful process. Nobody said it was easyyyyyyyyyyyy 4/6/2015 9:45:59 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
This Grayson Allen kid is gonna JJ Reddick us in an ACCT final some day
[Edited on April 6, 2015 at 9:53 PM. Reason : ] 4/6/2015 9:53:27 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27836 Posts user info edit post |
he'll be too busy campaigning to be president next year to bother with basketball. 4/6/2015 10:14:08 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
allen is more of an athlete than a shooter so that doesnt make a ton of sense. 4/6/2015 10:17:52 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on April 6, 2015 at 11:15 PM. Reason : wrong threa]
4/6/2015 11:14:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
nm
[Edited on April 6, 2015 at 11:15 PM. Reason : .] 4/6/2015 11:15:35 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25138457/virginia-headlines-ridiculously-early-preseason-top-25-and-one
Check out #16 4/6/2015 11:41:53 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/tournament/2015/story/_/id/12623594/kentucky-wildcats-headline-early-top-25-ranking-2015-16-men-college-basketball-season Here is another with us at 17. The only way I see us cracking the top 15 for most of the year is if Barber and either Abu or Anya become first round picks next year. 4/7/2015 7:14:22 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
No way in hell we're top 15 next year. Rinse/repeat. 4/7/2015 8:07:45 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Maryland as #4?
And I fully admit that I know next to nothing about MD - but that seems crazy given that they're losing Wells. And they're Maryland. But I guess they do have Diamond Stone coming in. 4/7/2015 8:10:49 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I mean it's great we're getting hyped as potential top 20 team, but let's not forget, we're ranked 16th and still have 3 ACC teams ranked ahead of us.
Will help as we'll have several months being ranked preseason for recruiting with the 2016 class though. 4/7/2015 8:23:10 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but let's not forget, we're ranked 16th and still have 3 ACC teams ranked ahead of us." |
yeah that's just gonna be the reality of the ACC now. to be the best team in the ACC, you gotta be a top 5 team in the nation. there's not gonna be many years where a good-not-great team wins the ACC regular season because everybody else is in a down year. just too many great programs in the ACC for that to happen, imo.4/7/2015 8:28:45 AM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^
I think there's a pretty decent chance Abu and Barber get drafted in the first round next year.
I think anya will need a fourth year of development in college. But he could explode into the scene next year too if he puts it all together 4/7/2015 8:40:00 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25532 Posts user info edit post |
^ehh, i'm beginning to think anya is what he is at this point. i just can't see his offensive game taking that big of a step forward. i hope i'm wrong, of course. 4/7/2015 12:00:34 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
is he still trying to lose weight or is he where they want him now? 4/7/2015 12:05:36 PM |
Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Gottfried has mentioned that he could stand to lose a bit more weight. I think he's got room to improve like a Richard Howell-esque beast. 4/7/2015 12:06:47 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
I seem to recall Gottfried making a statement along the lines of "[If he wants to realize his true potential, he needs to buckle-down and lose another 25 pounds]" 4/7/2015 12:09:31 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39302 Posts user info edit post |
he could lose all the weight in the world and it wouldn't matter if he never develops any post moves 4/7/2015 12:11:17 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Watching these schools perform shows how far away we still are from competing on this level...its sobering" |
What are you talking about? We were pretty inconsistent, but we beat Duke handily. And Louisville when they still had Chris Jones. And #1-seeded Villanova. And went to the Sweet 16 and played pretty well there. We can definitely competing on "that level", we just have to start doing it consistently.
[Edited on April 7, 2015 at 12:22 PM. Reason : ^duh, although losing weight would help him defensively, and defense is always going to be his forte]4/7/2015 12:12:29 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
main difference i saw between us and the teams in the F4 was their big men could all handle the ball. we have two stiffs on the court pretty much all game. i guess freeman handles the press well but hes not exactly a playmaker in the half court 4/7/2015 12:49:05 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
We don't need big men to handle the ball to get on that level...we just need them to be more reliable scorers. The thing is that could come in many ways...Abu has a nice shot (inconsistent), obviously we know what Washington can do (need to be better on the defensive end)...and then there is Anya who has the potential to be a solid low post scorer with his size and length.
The more scorers you have, the tougher you are to defend and its less likely you have those scoring droughts that lead to losses. 4/7/2015 12:51:48 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
man why can't this overweight sophomore already have a full arsenal of low post offensive moves? 4/7/2015 1:10:05 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
anya's moves are fine. his footwork is sloppy when the moves dont work and he needs to work on his hands 4/7/2015 1:19:13 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
I see your #16 & #17 above & raise you a #10
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2015/4/6/8356739/2015-2016-college-basketball-early-ranking-top-25-north-carolina-kentucky-virginia 4/7/2015 2:36:59 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
I see your #10 & raise you a #9
http://www.sportingnews.com/list/4640881-top-25-ranking-2015-16-way-too-early-virginia-arizona-north-carolina-unc-kentucky-kans/slide/313820
also Lunardi has us as a 6 seed in his 2015-16 bracket, which is an even more pointless exercise than these early Top 25s 4/7/2015 2:48:27 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
good lord ... they hype train is real
no one learned in 2012 4/7/2015 2:58:22 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Aw yeah looking forward to that 12th place ACC finish next year 4/7/2015 3:13:53 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
No cancers on our team. We'll be aight 4/7/2015 3:42:09 PM |
death cab Veteran 266 Posts user info edit post |
Here's a #11
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/a-way-too-early-look-at-the-2015-16-season-s-top-20-teams-122428651.html 4/8/2015 11:25:02 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In other words, the Wolfpack will begin next season amid high expectations, something that has traditionally not always been easy for them." |
lol4/8/2015 11:43:44 AM |