i am SHOCKED to hear country music playing in the store

8/17/2021 1:44:43 PM

I am shocked that they fucked up both THANK and RALEIGH when writing that sign

8/17/2021 1:49:09 PM

^lol, i didn't notice that the first time

8/17/2021 1:58:08 PM

I'm shocked that he misread his own sign.

8/17/2021 6:05:36 PM

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeopardsAteMyFace/comments/p6cirr/texas_governor_greg_abbot_tests_positive_for/

This hits different

8/17/2021 6:41:41 PM

^Hate to see it.

8/18/2021 8:22:44 PM

https://www.vice.com/en/article/dyvj9w/gop-leader-dies-of-covid-after-posting-anti-vax-conspiracies-from-icu-bed

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"Lin Wood, the QAnon-promoting pro-Trump lawyer whom Stutts backed in his bid to become chair of the South Carolina Republican Party, claimed in a Telegram post two days later that the hospital was effectively killing Stutts and advised his followers to “avoid hospitals at all costs,” calling them “medical prisons.”"

I hope they take his advice (sorry, hard to feel sympathy)

8/20/2021 2:59:28 PM

They need to start triaging based on vaccination status.

8/20/2021 3:47:53 PM

Hippocratic Oath, yadda yadda yadda

8/20/2021 4:31:03 PM

Don't think the Hippocratic Oath precludes triaging patients in the face of limited resources.

8/20/2021 4:49:36 PM

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"They need to start triaging based on vaccination status."

Yes.

8/20/2021 8:15:44 PM

Prior to the FDA approving Pfizer's vaccine, I started to see things popping up on social media of covidiots about how the FDA is now corrupt and not trustworthy etc

8/23/2021 6:55:58 PM

^?

https://scinjurylawfirm.com/talcum-powder-lawsuits/7-factors-to-file/

8/23/2021 8:02:25 PM

^^^ Amen. Reserve, say, 5% of the beds in a hospital for these people, and triage the unvaccinated (with no contraindications) amongst themselves for those beds. Everything else runs as normal. There's no fucking reason to be turning away cancer patients for their care because some slapnut who revels in his own ignorance wants to trust his health to a horse pill he got at Tractor Supply cause Jimbo told him that's all he needed on Parler. Fuck em. Let Darwin do his work.

[Edited on August 23, 2021 at 10:55 PM. Reason : ]

8/23/2021 10:53:50 PM

this is great... let nature take its course:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/23/politics/donald-trump-alabama-rally-vaccine/index.html

Not even Donald Trump can control the monster he created

Quote :

"About halfway through Donald Trump's speech in Alabama on Saturday night, something remarkable happened. As Trump told the crowd that he would "recommend" they get the Covid-19 vaccine, people started to boo. This is Frankenstein's monster come to life in the year 2021. Trump has created a following that even he can't control anymore."

8/25/2021 4:54:37 PM

I know you don't live in the US, but unfortunately we need these idiots to get on board or we'll be dealing with this situation forever.

8/25/2021 5:39:32 PM

Laughing and cheering at the suffering of the unvaccinated is dumb and gross. If Trump gets shit on that's usually fine, but this one time where I wish his dumb shit followers would listen to him. I want to see my family this Christmas not be stuck at home again.

8/25/2021 6:04:10 PM

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"I know you don't live in the US, but unfortunately we need these idiots to get on board or we'll be dealing with this situation forever."

nah i agree with you there.

the world is connected. there is trade and travel between countries. it is all affected if one region is holding itself back.

i wish we could put all such people from the world over in one place and then BUILD A WALL

8/27/2021 4:17:34 AM

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article253786678.html

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"A Texan who led anti-mask efforts and publicly opposed mandatory COVID-19 precautions is hospitalized with the coronavirus, and his pregnant wife says his chances of survival aren’t good.... ... He first refused to get tested or see a doctor because he didn’t want to be part of COVID-19 statistics, the publication reported, so he self-treated with Ivermectin, Vitamin C, zinc aspirin and an inhaler."

8/27/2021 1:28:44 PM

Sounds like he's about to become part of another statistical group.

8/27/2021 1:47:02 PM

^^Seems like these stories are almost daily. In SC, this GOP leader called masks an illusion.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/568854-south-carolina-local-gop-leader-dies-of-covid-19

This guy too Scott Apley in Texas advocated a mask burning party and was one that called mandates Nazi-like.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/h-scott-apley-chair-of-galveston-county-texas-gop-mocked-covid-days-before-he-died-of-virus

[Edited on August 27, 2021 at 4:55 PM. Reason : Add]

8/27/2021 4:52:57 PM

WTH is this asshole on??? Imagine being this violently angry over having to wear a mask.

https://www.local10.com/news/local/2021/08/28/military-veteran-hospitalized-following-violent-outburst-at-miami-airport

Videos from two angles:

https://twitter.com/BillyCorben/status/1431685909972410370
https://twitter.com/BillyCorben/status/1431669274565877766

I bet if it was a black or brown dude, would have ended up beaten up at the very least or even shot by the cops. But it was a white dude, so "mental health crisis" it is!

8/28/2021 7:17:39 PM

where does it say anything about him not wanting to wear a mask?

8/28/2021 8:22:58 PM

^ I read somewhere that he was denied boarding due to not wanting to wear a mask, and that's when he had the "mental health crisis". I can't remember when I read it, but I will look later.

8/29/2021 3:28:30 AM

I've asked this to people before, and I still haven't received even a slightly reasonable answer.

I'm fully vaccinated (I got it as soon as it was available). I'm a firm believer in science, although I do believe our mask policy does a very minimal amount of good, considering the small amount of places its enforced, the incorrect manner in which people wear their masks, and the maskless mass gatherings people have that negate any positive progress .

What I don't understand is how this is ever going to fully go away, or even get much better. The vaccine isn't 100% effective against the original strain, and it is even less effective against other variants, which seem to be popping up frequently. Much like the flu, it seems COVID is impossible to eradicate, and that we will just have to learn to live with it.

So, my point is, what is the long term plan? Wear masks forever and shut things down until the end of time anytime we see a spike? Is this our existence now? Do we sacrifice life as we know it to increase the chances of people who are really old getting really really old?

It really does seem like Idiocracy is playing out right before our eyes, and I honestly don't believe the government is going to be able to convince many more people to take the vaccine. So I just see no endgame to this.

8/29/2021 7:32:47 PM

The end game is when enough people have been either vaccinated OR infected so that the virus cannot spread as easily. Vaccines can be adjusted to address new variants of concern with booster injections. Vaccination is obviously preferable due to significantly reduced loss of life or long-term consequences. Expect a seasonal vaccine booster similar to the flu shot, and perhaps some permanent changes in report-to-work expectations when showing signs of respiratory infection of any sort.

Meanwhile, those who refuse to be vaccinated take their chances, and some will pay the ultimate price for their stupidity and obstinance. What I really like is spending $300 to buy Ivermectin instead of getting a free-to-you vaccine. The rates of transmission don't justify a opening everything up without precaution at this time. The 1918 flu pandemic is instructive. That burned out eventually without a vaccine. Of course, 50 million people died globally.

8/29/2021 7:46:32 PM

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"Do we sacrifice life as we know it to increase the chances of people who are really old getting really really old?"

Tell that to Caleb Wallace. He was 30.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/569921-texas-anti-mask-movement-leader-dies-of-covid-19

8/30/2021 11:58:16 AM

Just saw a guy I knew when i was younger, and whose family is church-friends with some of my family, was diagnosed a few weeks ago, had to be intubated a week or so ago, and just had to be air-lifted to a hospital that had an available bed/equipment, and it's not looking good for him. I think he's around 40, a little overweight, but otherwise healthy. (i'm pretty sure he wasn't vaccinated)

8/30/2021 12:23:41 PM

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"Tell that to Caleb Wallace. He was 30."

I think in order to have meaningful conversations people need to stop with stuff like this.

I get it, on rare occasions, in a country of 400 million people, on a planet of 8 billion people, otherwise perfectly healthy individuals, with no underlying conditions will catch COVID and die. It sucks, but that is certainly not the majority of cases.

People die everyday in motor vehicle accidents, but we don't shut down interstates or ban vehicles. People die of cancer everyday, often from cancers either caused or at least exacerbated by unhealthy lifestyles, poor diets, etc, but we don't make fast food illegal.

The fact is, there is an inherent risk in every single thing we do, and that number will never be zero. IF there was a definitive end in sight, I can definitely get on board with shutdowns, mandates, etc. But there's not, and I don't think there ever will be. So once again, I ask you, what is the permanent, long term solution to COVID?

8/30/2021 12:29:45 PM

I hate how contagious car accidents are

8/30/2021 12:49:45 PM

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"People die everyday in motor vehicle accidents, but we don't shut down interstates or ban vehicles. People die of cancer everyday, often from cancers either caused or at least exacerbated by unhealthy lifestyles, poor diets, etc, but we don't make fast food illegal."

Neither car accidents nor cancer are contagious.

8/30/2021 12:50:37 PM

^^^I already told you what the end game was, guy.

8/30/2021 12:56:11 PM

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"Neither car accidents nor cancer are contagious."

wellllllllllll you can totally die in a wreck that wasn't caused by you, but i feel you

8/30/2021 1:13:11 PM

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" People die everyday in motor vehicle accidents, but we don't shut down interstates or ban vehicles. People die of cancer everyday, often from cancers either caused or at least exacerbated by unhealthy lifestyles, poor diets, etc, but we don't make fast food illegal."

This is a pretty FeebleMinded argument imo

Feels like there’s also a pretty obvious seatbelt/mask comparison to be made here in regards to the the driving/wrecks thing.

[Edited on August 30, 2021 at 1:25 PM. Reason : A]

8/30/2021 1:21:44 PM

16 months in and people are still making dumb arguments that were pointed out as dumb when they were originally made 16 months ago

there are all kinds of regulations in place to mitigate deaths from car accidents and cancer

8/30/2021 1:26:10 PM

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"Feels like there’s also a pretty obvious seatbelt/mask comparison to be made here in regards to the the driving/wrecks thing."

Not to mention driving laws such as minimum age limits, speed limits, DWIs and staying in your lane, drivers' licenses, insurance, etc.

8/30/2021 1:31:36 PM

yeah, lots of stuff the gov't "forces" you to do before you can step behind a wheel of a vehicle. people are dumb.

8/30/2021 2:32:07 PM

Quote :

"The end game is when enough people have been either vaccinated OR infected so that the virus cannot spread as easily. Vaccines can be adjusted to address new variants of concern with booster injections. Vaccination is obviously preferable due to significantly reduced loss of life or long-term consequences. Expect a seasonal vaccine booster similar to the flu shot, and perhaps some permanent changes in report-to-work expectations when showing signs of respiratory infection of any sort. Meanwhile, those who refuse to be vaccinated take their chances, and some will pay the ultimate price for their stupidity and obstinance. What I really like is spending $300 to buy Ivermectin instead of getting a free-to-you vaccine. The rates of transmission don't justify a opening everything up without precaution at this time. The 1918 flu pandemic is instructive. That burned out eventually without a vaccine. Of course, 50 million people died globally."

I honestly hope you're right, but I'm skeptical. I don't see enough people getting vaccinated, particularly on a recurring basis, to meet this threshold.

Also (please correct me if I'm wrong here), but this is my limited understanding of vaccines. When a flu shot is developed, the creators select the most likely strain a region will be afflicted with, based on a number of factors, and develop a vaccine that is 100% effective against that particular strain. However there are many strains, to which that flu shot may have a limited effect, or no effect at all against. With COVID (and MRNA technology?), vaccines aren't even 100% effective against the strain they are created for, much less other variants.

Bottom line is, I hope you are right, but it seems like every day the goal posts are moving.

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"This is a pretty FeebleMinded argument imo Feels like there’s also a pretty obvious seatbelt/mask comparison to be made here in regards to the the driving/wrecks thing."

My main point (and I believe you know this), is that everything in life has risks. Some people's risk threshold is higher than others, particularly when the risk you are taking is not necessarily your own life.

While it's not perfect, I do really like the driving analogy. Every time you get in a car, you put your life at risk - even if you wear seatbelts, follow all traffic laws, and do everything in your power to be as safe as possible. You're not protected against a drunk driver going 120 mph, a freak malfunction of a vehicle, an animal jumping out in front of you, etc etc etc. So we accept that risk, much like we accept the possibility that a cold or the flu could possibly lead to our death. Risk will never be zero, and at some point when you attempt to minimize it and get it as close to zero as possible, you start to seriously impact other areas of your life.

Once again, I'm on board with pretty much any mitigation strategy, as long as there is an end in sight. But as I said before, I can't see enough people getting vaccinated to put an end to COVID (unless we make it mandatory, which really opens a whole other can of worms), and it doesn't appear that the vaccine is as great as it was originally touted to be.

8/30/2021 4:23:58 PM

You're right, we SHOULD vastly increase the access to public transportation and work to update our infrastructure to make driving far less necessary!

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"and develop a vaccine that is 100% effective against that particular strain"

I haven't done my research here but I don't think there is a vaccine with 100% effectivity.

8/30/2021 4:55:53 PM

FeebleMinded, do you worry about getting polio, smallpox, measles, rubella? Vaccines (and mandatory vaccination) are demonstrated methods to eliminate and even eradicate diseases.

Will it happen in a year? No, it took decades of work to eradicate smallpox. But you don’t get on the way with voluntary vaccination programs

[Edited on August 30, 2021 at 8:58 PM. Reason : Dur]

8/30/2021 8:58:30 PM

Quote :

"Amen. Reserve, say, 5% of the beds in a hospital for these people, and triage the unvaccinated (with no contraindications) amongst themselves for those beds. Everything else runs as normal. There's no fucking reason to be turning away cancer patients for their care because some slapnut who revels in his own ignorance wants to trust his health to a horse pill he got at Tractor Supply cause Jimbo told him that's all he needed on Parler. Fuck em. Let Darwin do his work."

Yep. I mean, maybe 5% is too low and we can do better, but I pretty much don't give a shit what happens to people who have every opportunity to get vaccinated...but don't. I don't, like, revel in their suffering, but I don't think that we should divert resources from anyone else to them. They should get whatever is left after we cover everything else of importance.

8/30/2021 10:54:27 PM

^1000%

8/30/2021 11:17:18 PM

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"Once again, I'm on board with pretty much any mitigation strategy, as long as there is an end in sight. But as I said before, I can't see enough people getting vaccinated to put an end to COVID (unless we make it mandatory, which really opens a whole other can of worms), and it doesn't appear that the vaccine is as great as it was originally touted to be."

If you attended NCSU, then you had to provide a list of shots/vaccinations no?

How is this any different?

8/31/2021 11:46:06 AM

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"there are all kinds of regulations in place to mitigate deaths from car accidents and cancer"

Oddly enough, teaching someone to properly drive a car isn't one of them.

Quote :

"Yep. I mean, maybe 5% is too low and we can do better, but I pretty much don't give a shit what happens to people who have every opportunity to get vaccinated...but don't. I don't, like, revel in their suffering, but I don't think that we should divert resources from anyone else to them. They should get whatever is left after we cover everything else of importance."

Agreed

[Edited on August 31, 2021 at 2:06 PM. Reason : added]

8/31/2021 1:59:10 PM

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"Oddly enough, teaching someone to properly drive a car isn't one of them."

Don't you have to pass Driver's Ed, drive for a while with a permit, and pass a writing and driving test?

8/31/2021 4:37:44 PM

Drivers ed doesn’t teach shit.

Almost nobody knows even the basics of car control, right of way, or highway lane discipline.

8/31/2021 11:16:02 PM

For sure no one knows what to do when there is a nonfunctioning traffic light. VROOM VROOM

9/1/2021 12:15:18 AM

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"My main point (and I believe you know this), is that everything in life has risks. Some people's risk threshold is higher than others, particularly when the risk you are taking is not necessarily your own life."

I don't think it's really accurate to categorize lock downs and and mask regulations as mere "risk mitigating". Looks to me like it's been intended instead to reduce the strain on our health care system. That's entirely a separate issue that doesn't factor in with car accidents and cancer.

Do you have a better idea?

9/1/2021 11:55:13 AM

I'm still loving reading about these anti-vaxers dying. I love it. Don't care about their children. They can die too.

I've cut ties w/ about 1/2 of my friends... the ones who are hardcore Trumpers and anti-vaxers. I told one to his face last week I hope he dies a long COVID death. His wife was in shock and brought up their kid. I replied to her that he should be a cautionary tale to his kid that if you're fucking stupid and refuse the vax, you should die.

9/1/2021 12:45:51 PM

Jeez, you sound like a terrible person.

(I mean, I have trouble tolerating anti-vaxers, and i find it hard to sympathize with those who get sick (particularly vocal anti-vaxers), but wishing for their death, especially your "friends" is.... shitty)

9/1/2021 12:56:08 PM