rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/rodger/status/1720948646609305709
Quote : | "They played “we are never getting back together” after Oklahoma State beat Oklahoma in the last Bedlam ever" |
11/4/2023 10:07:39 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
LMAO at UNC getting ranked this week after beating *checks notes* a sub .500 FCS team. 11/5/2023 4:49:23 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Drake Maye is good. But I kinda don’t get why unc doesn’t run way more than they do. Especially in the red zone. 1st and goal from the 7. They passed 3 times. Meanwhile Hampton averages like 6.5 ypc. They settled for another red zone FG 11/11/2023 10:04:46 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Duke getting totally hosed wow 11/11/2023 11:10:10 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know if that wrestling is a pick but it's crazy not to look at it 11/11/2023 11:10:53 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah truly insane that it wasn’t reviewed. That’s ridiculous 11/11/2023 11:13:18 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
Did Duke use a challenge already? 11/11/2023 11:13:41 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Elmo also could’ve used a timeout to at least buy more time for them to initiate a review. I get that you don’t wanna have to call a TO but damn
[Edited on November 11, 2023 at 11:18 PM. Reason : Lol I’m leaving Elmo. It’s funny ] 11/11/2023 11:16:31 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
Holy shit 11/11/2023 11:23:02 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
bring the house! 11/11/2023 11:24:05 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
Also, from Twitter:
Quote : | "What’s wild about not reviewing the potential game winning interception is they had just spent a minute and a half reviewing a Tez Walker reception where he was no where close to being out of bounds." |
11/11/2023 11:24:18 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
I don't recall seeing a kicker with jersey #98 11/11/2023 11:32:32 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
Tough first play 11/11/2023 11:35:29 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
Wow is right 11/11/2023 11:37:12 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
UNC gonna be back in the top 10 11/12/2023 12:28:38 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
You know UNC is a legit football program because they rush the field after beating Duke 11/12/2023 12:59:09 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Lol tamu firing paying Jimbo $70M+ to not coach them anymore. 11/12/2023 9:45:58 AM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62447 Posts user info edit post |
Golden parachute is not the term here, maybe diamond encrusted platinum parachute? 11/12/2023 11:53:06 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Arizona Wildcats are facing a $240M school-wide shortage after significant miscalculations in their financial modeling.
Cuts are being considered among the school's 23 varsity teams.
“Everything’s on the table in terms of dealing with athletics."
gofos.co/40DAfJF" |
That's a whoopsie-daisy11/13/2023 10:13:49 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“If you look at the band from 3.75 GPA to 4.0, there are a lot of students here that pay nothing. We lose money on every one,” Robbins said. " |
Hmmm well maybe you shouldn't make education for-profit???11/13/2023 11:01:28 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
I too have uncovered a $240M+ hole in my budget. 11/14/2023 6:59:39 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
Miami just almost earned a targeting penalty against themselves while giving up the go ahead TD https://twitter.com/WillManso/status/1725973056877728200 11/18/2023 3:25:35 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
RIP Jordan Travis 11/18/2023 7:25:35 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Oh god I saw the replay 11/18/2023 9:01:34 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah when your foot is pointing the wrong way, something isn't right 11/18/2023 10:42:46 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Was just looking at the stats for the Clemson-UNC game. Just found another example of ESPN's QBR being an absolutely garbage metric.
Here are the two QB stat lines: Klubnik: 21/32 219 yards 6.8 ypa 1 TD 0 INT Maye: 16/36 209 yards 5.8 ypa 1 TD 1 INT
Guess who has the better QBR? You guessed it, top NFL draft pick Drake Maye! Despite completing less than 50% of his passes and turning the ball over, he beats Klubnik 76.6 - 72.8. Oh and before you say "well it takes into account rushing as well", Klubnik ran 12 times for 44 yards and a TD compared to 10 times for 67 yards and zero scores
There's no way, shape or form that you can say Maye outplayed his counterpart in this game, and yet once again QBR is giving wonky grades and there's no real way to see why! 11/19/2023 1:24:56 AM |
rayef3rw All American 909 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't watch the game, but the only way I could see that making any sense at all is if Klubnik's gains came largely on a handful of breakaway runs while Maye's were more consistent. Still agree that QBR is garbo tho 11/19/2023 11:38:00 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
To further Justin’s point, Maye took 4 sacks and Klubnik 0. Sacks are flaunted as rush yards and attempts in college. But no matter how you split it, taking 0 sacks is way better than taking 4 sacks. 11/19/2023 3:37:13 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Yes i will 100% say the guy who was responsible for 2 touchdowns, no turnovers and no sacks played better than the guy responsible for 1 td, 1 interception and took 4 sacks. ESPN says no though
I swear they just make these numbers up.] 11/19/2023 3:56:30 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
those sacks juice his running numbers, tho 11/19/2023 4:01:34 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
It's a really bad metric. Maye completed <50% of his passes and somehow Maye still had a rating that is "elite" according to ESPN (>75). It's a joke and no one should ever use it as a serious tool to compare players. I will die on this hill.] 11/19/2023 4:07:16 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
there is no perfect metric
it’s best to look at more than just one to get a full picture
I’m also willing to bet that every attempt gets graded factoring in a few different things, since all incompletions aren’t the same
[Edited on November 19, 2023 at 4:35 PM. Reason : .] 11/19/2023 4:15:05 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Lol so it's incredibly subjective and it's biased towards players who ESPN says are good, no matter how they actually perform. 11/19/2023 4:56:16 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
you’d have a point if you could prove that
can’t prove it based on vibes, tho 11/19/2023 5:03:24 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
For reference Maye’s passer rating yesterday was 96.8. Klubnik was 133.4! Pretty big difference. Passer rating isn’t a perfect stat either but in this case I think it’s closer to what actually happened on the field yesterday than ESPNs QBR.
^ it’s hard to prove anything since it’s proprietary and espn doesn’t reveal the formula but I think Justin makes a pretty fair point.
[Edited on November 19, 2023 at 5:09 PM. Reason : F] 11/19/2023 5:07:29 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
it makes no sense for them to juice a players stats
to follow that logic, people who otherwise wouldn’t watch would base their viewing solely on a players QBR
it’s absurd 11/19/2023 5:09:40 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Well I’m not going so far as to say that espn is using it to prop up certain players for narrative reasons or whatever. It just seems obvious that it’s not a good stat. 11/19/2023 5:11:52 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
I don’t know that it’s that obvious
I much prefer it over QB Rating 11/19/2023 5:23:45 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
It does make sense that they would inflate their fake made up bullshit stat for players who they/their talking heads have been pumping up since before the season started. Making players on teams who pull ratings look better is a win for ESPN.
I'm not going to go down the rabbit hole and definitively say that ESPN is doing this, but i can't rule it out because THEY DON'T SAY HOW THEY COMPUTE THEIR STAT.
My whole point is that QBR is a trash metric and no self respecting person/news agency/institution should use it in any circumstance.
[Edited on November 19, 2023 at 5:24 PM. Reason : Magic QBR box says bad QB play is actually good QB play] 11/19/2023 5:23:53 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
nobody who otherwise wouldn’t watch is tuning into a game because of a players QBR
there are plenty of scouts who have no connection to ESPN who have him ranked very high 11/19/2023 5:34:34 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Drake Maye is very good and will get drafted very high and that has little to do with espn and their QBR stat. But QBR is also flawed.
For a while the best (nfl) QBR game of all time was Charlie Batch throwing for like 180 yards 3 TDs and 2 INT. ESPN changed it to increase the minimum number of plays needed for the stat. But he graded out as 99.9 that game. Which seems obviously wrong. 11/19/2023 5:57:29 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
I think QBR is supposed to give players more credit for throwing into tight windows, than little dump off passes, even if they both result in 1 completion for the same number of yards. But the fact that they can't just disclose the formula is pretty sus. 11/19/2023 6:37:54 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
AP poll means nothing at this point but huge lol at Tennessee still being ranked. 11/19/2023 7:15:21 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Tennessee ranked 21 lol. What a joke. 11/21/2023 7:19:08 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
lol at Michigan rushing the field. 11/25/2023 3:43:38 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39296 Posts user info edit post |
Rushing The Field cops are extremely lame 11/25/2023 4:07:20 PM |
HaLo All American 14255 Posts user info edit post |
LOL at Auburn 11/25/2023 7:05:40 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37668 Posts user info edit post |
Beck too cool to look at the explosion
[Edited on December 2, 2023 at 6:34 PM. Reason : E] 12/2/2023 6:31:53 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
RIP Florida State's playoff chances
[Edited on December 2, 2023 at 7:27 PM. Reason : Michigan, Washington, Bama, Georgia] 12/2/2023 7:27:05 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25500 Posts user info edit post |
Undefeated fsu is in. What a failure of the playoff process if an undefeated power conference champ misses it.
Texas has a better argument than UGa and Bama.
I think UGa is out. Decision is between Texas, Bama, FSU if FSU wins (and Michigan winning). Texas beat Bama. So I think it’s Texas, FSU, Mich, Wash in that scenario.
[Edited on December 2, 2023 at 7:33 PM. Reason : A] 12/2/2023 7:31:18 PM |