I'm pretty sure the antichrist won't participate in a week-long Bible reading at the White House, host dozens of prayer meetings, and speak often about Jesus being Lord and Savior, even if Trump doesn't understand what that entails. The spirit of antichrist denies Father and Son, which is more akin to Islam than what Trump has publicly stated.

4/21/2026 1:48:59 PM

I love how they've all turned on Tucker Carlson, and MTG.

They were licking the heels of those two two years ago.

4/21/2026 1:50:46 PM

^^
lol. Literally the antichrist will do that. That’s the actual written text in revelations

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" According to Christian eschatology based on Revelation and 2 Thessalonians, the Antichrist will likely pretend to be a Christian or a Messiah figure, using deception to gain global influence. Described as a master manipulator, he will exhibit a "pseudo-messianism", appearing with lamb-like traits before revealing his true, destructive nature. Key Aspects of the Antichrist’s Deception The Deceptive Appearance: The Antichrist is portrayed as a charismatic leader who initially presents himself as a solution to world issues. In Revelation 13, the associated False Prophet appears like a "lamb" (imitating Christ) but speaks like a "dragon" (Satan). A Counterfeit Religious System: He will work alongside a False Prophet to establish a new religious system that mimics Christianity to mislead people. This system will compel people to worship the Antichrist, setting himself up in God's temple. Perversion of Scripture: The Antichrist will use the guise of religious righteousness to gain trust, only to later show his true colors and oppose all that is deemed holy. Global Deception: He will create a "supreme religious deception," persuading the world to follow him. The Bible warns that this deception will be so effective it might deceive even the faithful, using great signs and miracles to solidify his power. "

[Edited on April 21, 2026 at 2:20 PM. Reason : ]

4/21/2026 2:18:01 PM

The antichrist opposes Christ and denies Father and Son. Trump has affirmed biblical beliefs about Jesus while demonstrating confusion or ignorance about salvation by grace through faith.

”Who is the liar? It is whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Such a person is the antichrist—denying the Father and the Son.” 1 John 2:22

Trump is hated worldwide and is highly polarizing in the US. The antichrist will be a much more popular figure who produces miracles, not an America-first protectionist at odds with most of the world. Obama seemed to fit this mold more but without the miracles.

[Edited on April 21, 2026 at 2:36 PM. Reason : Except for the “miracles” of correctly predicting UNC would win the 2009 and 2017 basketball titles.]

4/21/2026 2:25:36 PM

i am the antichrist

4/21/2026 2:36:31 PM

You are the antichrist. There’s a difference.

[Edited on April 21, 2026 at 2:39 PM. Reason : But technically, “the antichrist” could also refer to embodying the spirit of the Antichrist]

4/21/2026 2:37:17 PM

I said what I said

4/21/2026 3:07:27 PM

#StayBlessed lol

4/21/2026 3:11:13 PM

^^You suck at being the antichrist. You need to get more popular, charismatic, and conniving like Zack Morris but ruthless enough to go on that trip to DC and not hand your hard earned class president victory to Jessie Spano.

[Edited on April 21, 2026 at 4:10 PM. Reason : Saved by the Vote]

4/21/2026 4:04:53 PM

Haha just discovered Zack was the Republican governor of California in the 2020 Saved by the Bell reboot. Gavin Newsom, eat your heart out.

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"Zack Morris is a fictional character portrayed by Mark-Paul Gosselaar in the Saved by the Bell franchise, who serves as the Republican Governor of California in the 2020 Peacock revival series. In the show's storyline, his rise to the governorship was a comedic plot point intended to avoid paying a parking ticket."

[Edited on April 21, 2026 at 4:22 PM. Reason : Morris/Slater '26]

4/21/2026 4:21:09 PM

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"Trump has affirmed biblical beliefs about Jesus while demonstrating confusion or ignorance about salvation by grace through faith."

Trump has lied about a lot of things. His word means nothing, just like the word of the Great Deceiver.

4/21/2026 4:22:21 PM

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"You suck at being the antichrist"

4/21/2026 4:37:14 PM

^^The Great Deceiver doesn't give a full presentation of the gospel, as Trump has. Satan tends to twist it on some point and lead people astray with a counterfeit like he did through Muhammad, Joseph Smith, Charles Taze Russell, etc. Wittingly or unwittingly, Trump has presented the full gospel message through Easter and Christmas messages as well as recently posting Franklin Graham's letter to him about salvation being by grace through faith in Christ.

[Edited on April 21, 2026 at 4:40 PM. Reason : ^Looking forward to Dune 3?]

4/21/2026 4:37:38 PM

Q don't listen I think you're a great antichrist

(this could be read multiple ways from me but it's just jest, I actually agree you are a poor antichrist (complimentary))

[Edited on April 21, 2026 at 4:41 PM. Reason : A true antichrist would update the Matt Able thread title]

4/21/2026 4:40:07 PM

thxu rwoody that means a lot

4/21/2026 4:41:22 PM

This heel guy is a total troll, right? He has to know that Trump doesn't care one cent about Christianity or Christians, right? (except as a tool to get his way)

4/21/2026 4:48:21 PM

He is, wittingly or unwittingly, proclaiming the gospel and encouraging prayer and Bible reading. Much better than the guys who put rainbow spotlights on the White House and hired a mentally ill trans assistant health secretary.

4/21/2026 5:03:18 PM

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"Wittingly or unwittingly, Trump has presented the full gospel message through Easter and Christmas messages as well as recently posting Franklin Graham's letter to him about salvation being by grace through faith in Christ."

Wittingly, and for profit.

And Graham is a fake Christian-for-Prophet Profit, as well.

4/21/2026 6:37:34 PM

What about joel osteen?

4/21/2026 6:38:51 PM

^^Graham inherited a massive ministry that his father helped to build. The ministry compensates him generously. It doesn't mean money is his primary factor in all decisions.

[Edited on April 21, 2026 at 7:25 PM. Reason : ^Claims to not live a lavish lifestyle. He's hesitant to call evil behavior "sinful."]

4/21/2026 7:20:59 PM

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"Bullet: This heel guy is a total troll, right?"

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"heelfan: He is"

4/21/2026 7:51:04 PM

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"What about joel osteen?"

Same

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"Graham inherited a massive ministry that his father helped to build. The ministry compensates him generously. It doesn't mean money is his primary factor in all decisions."

I didn't say it did. I refer to Franklin Graham's words and actions, not his wealth.

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"Let’s look at the record. In 1998, at the height of Bill Clinton’s sex scandals, the younger Graham wrote a powerful op-ed in the Wall Street Journal combating Clinton’s assertion that his affair was a “private” matter. Clinton argued that his misdeeds were “between me, the two people I love the most — my wife and our daughter — and our God.” Graham noted that even the most private of sins can have very public, devastating consequences, and he asked a simple question: “If [Clinton] will lie to or mislead his wife and daughter, those with whom he is most intimate, what will prevent him from doing the same to the American public?” Graham was right: Clinton, it turned out, wouldn’t just lie to mislead his family. He’d lie to influence courts, Congress, and the American people. Fast-forward 20 years. By 2018, Donald Trump was president — and helping to win important policy victories for religious conservatives — and Graham’s tune had changed dramatically. He actively repudiated his condemnations of Clinton, calling the Republican pursuit of the then-president “a great mistake that should never have happened,” and argued that “this thing with Stormy Daniels and so forth is nobody’s business.”"

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/04/franklin-graham-and-the-high-cost-of-the-lost-evangelical-witness/

4/21/2026 8:17:01 PM

^^
Whether he is or isn’t lots of people think like them

4/21/2026 8:28:25 PM

^^This excerpt doesn't prove that Graham makes money his top priority. It indicates that he is pragmatic and willing to back people with shady pasts if they advance Christian values. Perhaps hypocritical when it comes to endorsing people who will get the job done.

4/22/2026 4:56:50 AM

I think that's true for most of us. We excuse the mistakes of people who help our cause while hammering our political enemies when they make the same mistakes. If our favorite player or politician is involved in a scandal, we call it a witch hunt. But when it's someone from the other side, we say they're not fit for the job.

^^Bullet and The Coz have lived in the Bible belt long enough to know better. Why do liberals act surprised when Christians are in favor of a politician who says there are only two sexes, appoints judges who limit abortion, talks about Jesus often at the White House, participates in a Bible reading week, creates a task force to combat anti-Christian bias, threatens countries involved in Christian persecution, protects Christian NGOs, and encourages prayer? You guys are completely tone deaf like the Democratic Party leadership. You'll never get the Evangelical vote with this mentality. Get out more. Go to The Shepherd's Church in Cary or Providence Baptist in Raleigh and find out what many Christians believe and what the Bible says so you won't be so alarmed when Christians support Christian values.

[Edited on April 22, 2026 at 5:19 AM. Reason : hypocrisy]

4/22/2026 5:17:06 AM

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"I think that's true for most of us. We excuse the mistakes of people who help our cause while hammering our political enemies when they make the same mistakes. If our favorite player or politician is involved in a scandal, we call it a witch hunt."

No. Guilty is guilty. Wrong is wrong. I don't excuse it because someone is a Democrat. If they're corrupt, get them out of there and do better.

I understand why so-called evangelicals think the way they do. Because they are constantly propagandized, they don't actually read the Bible. The fact that Donald Trump is seen as representative of anything associated with Christian ideology is evidence enough of the lack of critical thought and understanding.

4/22/2026 7:11:56 AM

There is zero Christianity in Donald Trump. He will only use it to achieve a goal. He doesn’t care one way or the other.

4/22/2026 9:27:51 AM

And apparently most self-identified Christians don't care either, as long as it suits their ends.

Can't believe you'd make THIS GUY your figurehead on Earth. It's a global and should be a spiritual embarrassment.

4/22/2026 10:09:28 AM

^^^, ^^ I never said Trump is the best possible leader or that he is close to the Lord, but the policies he has advanced represent Christian values far better than the LGBTQ, killing unborn babies on demand, godless agenda that the Democrats have promoted for decades.

4/22/2026 10:27:45 AM

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"He is, wittingly or unwittingly, proclaiming the gospel and encouraging prayer and Bible reading. Much better than the guys who put rainbow spotlights on the White House and hired a mentally ill trans assistant health secretary."

ok, this guy is obviously an un-serious person, and should be treated as such. Best to just ingnore his bait.

4/22/2026 10:59:34 AM

Let me guess, you were shocked when Hillary and Kamala's respective presidential bids were unsuccessful and chalk up all Trump support to racism.

Believe it or not, there are Americans who don't want nearly one million babies slaughtered every year or biological males in female restrooms and sports competitions.

[Edited on April 22, 2026 at 11:44 AM. Reason : 930,160 dead babies in 2020]

4/22/2026 11:31:54 AM

Democrats are by far the most Christian of the 2 parties. Every maga supporter at least is most likely going to hell (as indicated in the Bible no one can say for sure)

[Edited on April 22, 2026 at 12:01 PM. Reason : ]

4/22/2026 12:01:29 PM

Funny joke, tell us another one.

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"Approximately 84% of Republicans identify as Christian, compared to roughly 50%–58% of Democrats, according to 2024–2025 data."

"Whoever is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels." Luke 9:26

4/22/2026 12:09:10 PM

Self-identification is not what will save anyone on Judgment Day.

4/22/2026 12:18:39 PM

But fearing man and being too embarrassed to mention His name or the gospel will be fatal.

"For the Spirit God gave us does not make us timid, but gives us power, love and self-discipline." 2 Timothy 1:7

4/22/2026 1:32:14 PM

1) Trump is not Christian
2) Trump is not the Antichrist
3) Trump does not represent Christian values
4) heelfan is a hell of a troll... stop engaging him

4/22/2026 1:50:05 PM

5) there's no such thing as God anyways why are we even talking about this nonsense

4/22/2026 2:02:44 PM

Fred, are you an atheist? If so, I really have to applaud you. Being an atheist requires so much faith.

4/22/2026 2:15:14 PM

I believe in math

[Edited on April 22, 2026 at 2:22 PM. Reason : and anthropology]

4/22/2026 2:22:04 PM

FYI

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"Mathematical arguments for God's existence generally rely on formal logic or philosophical inferences rather than direct, scientific proofs. Notable examples include Gödel's ontological proof, which uses modal logic to argue that a "God-like" entity necessarily exists, and the "unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics" argument, which suggests that mathematical laws governing the universe require an intelligent, transcendent mind. Key Mathematical Arguments Gödel’s Ontological Proof: Mathematician Kurt Gödel modernized St. Anselm’s argument using modal logic. It defines God as possessing all "positive properties," and since necessary existence is considered a positive property, God must exist in all possible worlds. The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics: This argument points out that the universe is fundamentally structured by mathematics (e.g., Fibonacci sequence in nature, physical constants). Because math exists in the mind but dictates the laws of the universe, it suggests a divine "creator" who used math as a language. Argument from Eternal Truths: This viewpoint, often linked to Augustine and Leibniz, argues that mathematical truths are eternal, universal, and exist outside of human minds. Therefore, they must be grounded in an eternal, omniscient mind (God). Bayesian Probability: Some, such as Stephen D. Unwin, have applied Bayes' theorem, which calculates the probability of a hypothesis (God's existence) based on prior evidence. Limitations Logic vs. Physical Proof: These are philosophical arguments rather than scientific measurements. They are meant to show that belief in God is rational and logically sound, not that God can be measured in a lab. Definition Constraints: Gödel's proof, for instance, depends on the definition of "positive properties". These arguments are designed to show that mathematical consistency and existence, as well as logic, are consistent with a rational creator."

4/22/2026 2:50:46 PM

Republican women kill their babies the same as democratic women

https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/similar-shares-of-republican-democratic-and-independent-women-one-in-seven-report-having-had-an-abortion/

The difference is democratic policies would reduce abortions AND save the lives of pregnant women having complications.

Republicans are happy to watch women die in hospital parking lots as their daughters quietly kill their babies at the same rates

Morally if you are against killing babies, you have to be a democrat. If you love racism and watching pregnant women die, then the GOP is the party for you

But just because you want people to have the freedom to choose a sinful life doesn’t mean you are culpable for that sin. Christianity is a personal religion, it’s one of the main things that set it apart from Islam (which has public calls to prayer and things like that)

4/22/2026 2:56:51 PM

Or we could push for a society based on biblical values and encourage citizens to respect the sanctity of human life instead of sanctioning murder and celebrating sexual sin. Legalizing the murder of babies is just as immoral as legalizing genocide. You bring up saving the lives of women, but this is almost never the reason for an abortion.

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"When breaking down reasons for abortion, risks to the woman's life or a major bodily function are cited in approximately 0.3% of cases."

You say you want people to have the freedom to sin. But abortion is not like viewing pornography or gambling or heavy drinking, which mainly harms the person committing the sin. Abortion involves directly harming and taking the life of another human being. We normally punish people when this occurs. What do you mean by Christianity being a strictly personal religion? What verses can you cite to prove that?

4/22/2026 3:48:47 PM

So you want America to be a Christian Theocracy, got it.

[Edited on April 22, 2026 at 3:58 PM. Reason : Ignore this clown.]

4/22/2026 3:50:50 PM

^^ democrats want biblical values and value life more than republicans

But Biblical values don’t mean acting like the IRGC or the Taliban

It means helping the poor, caring for children and communities, expecting honesty and ethical behavior from leaders (not electing a rapist and felon fraud for example), righting your own wrongs, and being good stewards of Gods creations. Republicans hate all of this.

If you actually attended white evangelical Christian churches you’d know that Christianity was personal— it’s literally why the Roman’s killed Jesus, it forced Christian’s underground

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" The Pharisee and the Tax Collector (Luke 18:9–14) One of the most direct affirmations is this parable, where Jesus contrasts a religious leader’s loud, self-congratulatory public prayer with a despised tax collector’s quiet, humble plea for mercy undefined Wikipedia . The Pharisee: Stood in the temple and prayed "about himself," listing his public religious accomplishments to prove his righteousness He emphasized that God is Spirit, and true worshipers must worship "in spirit and in truth," meaning the physical or public setting is secondary to the internal spiritual The Three "Secrets" (Matthew 6:1–18) The passage you mentioned about prayer is actually part of a larger set of instructions on how to handle one's faith privately. As noted in discussions on Reddit, these verses reprimand the attitude of seeking glory from men rather than the practice of prayer itself undefined Reddit +1 . Jesus applies the same "secret" rule to three pillars of Jewish life: Giving (Alms): Do not "sound a trumpet" when you give to the needy; let your giving be in secret undefined Facebook . Prayer: Go into your room and shut the door undefined Treasuring God . Fasting: Do not look somber to show others you are fasting; wash your face and look normal so only God knows "

Note this is Matthew so direct accounts from Jesus’s mouth— the red text in your Bible

[Edited on April 22, 2026 at 4:12 PM. Reason : ]

4/22/2026 4:02:28 PM

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"why are we even talking about this nonsense"

4/22/2026 4:36:04 PM

I can't help but feel partially responsible. #Amen #StayBlessed

4/22/2026 4:47:26 PM

^^
Because morality is the main driver of political views and lots of people’s entry point into morality comes through organized religion

[Edited on April 22, 2026 at 5:17 PM. Reason : ]

4/22/2026 5:14:47 PM

and we should discourage such nonsense.

[Edited on April 22, 2026 at 5:32 PM. Reason : left and right trying to turn a plot of land into a holy war, as usual]

4/22/2026 5:31:56 PM

^^^^^The Taliban, really? Name one Republican proposing forced burqas, stoning adulterers, or executing gays and blasphemers.

Your idea of caring for children is murdering millions of them before they can even exit the womb. Your idea of helping the poor is destroying the economy with socialist policies. Your idea of family values is staging drag queen shows for young children at public libraries.

The ostensible reason Pilate had Jesus killed was that Jewish leaders told him that Jesus was declaring himself to be a king and setting himself up against Ceaser and that in order to be a "friend of Ceaser," he must execute Jesus.

Jesus also taught us to be a force for good in our communities and influence people to praise God when they witness our good deeds: "You are the light of the world...You are the salt of the earth." He taught us to take the gospel to the whole world, baptizing them in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit and teaching them to obey everything he commanded. If by strictly personal, you mean keep your faith to yourself or not trying to influence the culture for Christ and improve society, then you are horribly mistaken.

[Edited on April 22, 2026 at 5:53 PM. Reason : City on a Hill]

4/22/2026 5:50:01 PM

[Edited on April 22, 2026 at 5:55 PM. Reason : my flock has lost its way]

[Edited on April 22, 2026 at 5:57 PM. Reason : But youknowyoumissedit found favor in the eyes of the Lord]

4/22/2026 5:54:10 PM