ah yes, I remember the good old days

11/1/2008 11:53:31 PM

hahaha I dreamed that!

11/1/2008 11:54:18 PM

Crabtree reminds me of Sammy Davis Jr.






[Edited on November 1, 2008 at 11:55 PM. Reason : d]

11/1/2008 11:54:38 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHkABO0VwCg

11/1/2008 11:55:19 PM

wow what a great game, now its time to see if texas tech can run the gauntlet since texas couldnt do it, okla st. and then a bye before oklahoma

11/1/2008 11:55:32 PM

wish i had a dollar every time i heard "folks" tonight

11/1/2008 11:55:38 PM

what kind of a doodoo championship game would texas tech vs penn st be

11/1/2008 11:56:21 PM

better than 55-7 whoever's playing ohio state again

11/1/2008 11:57:20 PM

BCS pwnt. Again.

11/1/2008 11:58:31 PM

Id watch it, although Ive watched every texas tech game that has been on tv this year because they are just so damn fun to watch play, Ive probably cheered for Texas Tech more this year than my beloved wolfpack

11/1/2008 11:58:35 PM

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"wow what a great game, now its time to see if texas tech can run the gauntlet since texas couldnt do it, okla st. and then a bye before oklahoma"

don't forget they basically have to win the big 12 championship game too

11/1/2008 11:59:36 PM

True but lets face it, arguably 4 of the top 10 teams in the country are in the south if not 4 of the top 5. Whoever makes it outta the south "should" take care of the north winner although missouri could give them a game.

11/2/2008 12:02:20 AM

man, one of the best football days i can remember.

11/2/2008 12:05:47 AM

^^ Penn State, Florida and Alabama throw off the 4 out of 5 argument

11/2/2008 12:19:41 AM

eh i could argue that all 4 of those big 12 teams could beat all 3 of those teams but thats why I said top 10

11/2/2008 12:25:21 AM

^^get outta here with that Florida garbage...wow they beat an overrated UGA team, too bad they still lost to OLE MISS, they aren't even the best one loss team

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 12:26 AM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 12:26:19 AM

thats what is gonna hurt florida, while they may be the best of the one loss teams on the field, on paper they have the worst loss of any of them losing at home to ole miss.

11/2/2008 12:28:00 AM

^^ I didnt say they deserved it... I just said they are one of the top 5 teams in the country. They didnt "beat" a overrated Georgia team, they killed them... and Georgia being overrated is only a result of Florida and Alabama beating them so that's meaningless

11/2/2008 12:39:03 AM

I really wish they could have done something about the fans rushing the field at TT, though. I think if fans rush the field before the game is over it should be an automatic 7 points for the other team. Shit like that is ridiculous. Fans need to know the game situation. There's no excuse for them rushing TWICE before the game was actually over

11/2/2008 12:39:31 AM

that's the dumbest idea ever... if that was passed I would go to every UT game dressed as the opposing team fans and run out on the field in the 4th quarter if the game is close

11/2/2008 12:43:04 AM

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"I just said they are one of the top 5 teams in the country"

bullshit, they lost to a mediocre team while there are a number of 1 loss teams who lost to a much better opponent (Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, and Texas)

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"They didnt "beat" a overrated Georgia team, they killed them"

so running up the score actually counts for something? give me a break...lot of good that 75 points Tulsa scored last week did against Arkansas, huh?

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"and Georgia being overrated is only a result of Florida and Alabama beating them so that's meaningless"

or the fact that even their wins have been extremely unimpressive

11/2/2008 12:50:30 AM

I have a feeling alabama goes to LSU next week and gets beat, if that happens then it opens up a world of scenarios. Most likely penn state is in. Texas Tech as good as they have looked still have 2 very tough games left and we see how well Texas did against that sorta schedule. I cant even imagine the BCS disaster should Alabama win out and lose in the SEC title game to florida, and then oklahoma beat texas tech. That would leave so many one loss teams all with great arguments it would be insane. Sure most people would claim florida since they are from the SEC but as I said on paper they would have the worst loss of every single one of those teams.

11/2/2008 12:51:46 AM

^^ They didnt run up the score on Georgia, Georgia just couldnt stop them. Florida wasnt doing anything crazy, Georgia just gave up. If anything Georgia made it look closer than it was by scoring on Florida's second string defense

Florida is one of the best teams in the country right now, no question. Did they have a bad loss? yes. Do they deserve to be a top team over other 1 loss teams? Dont know, maybe, maybe not, but lets say no... still doesnt change that they are one of the best teams.

I have no idea what Tulsa has to do with any of this

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 12:56 AM. Reason : d]

11/2/2008 12:55:07 AM

best fucking day of CFB this year by far

went to the GT-FSU game and can barely speak now
avoided all mention of the cocktail party score and watched it on replay in about an hour and a half (most of the 2nd half was spent on FF)
watched the last 3 quarters of Texas-TTU
getting ready to watch the Navy-Temple game that saw Navy's 3rd string QB lead a 20 point comeback in the final 13 mins of the game to win in OT and secure their 6th consecutive bowl game

watching gameday final makes me wish I had been in a sports bar with all the crazy finishes today

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 1:08 AM. Reason : .]

11/2/2008 1:01:03 AM

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"Florida is one of the best teams in the country right now, no question"

until they can retroactively erase that loss to Ole Miss, you have a hard time arguing that they are better than Oklahoma State, Oklahoma (who scored 35 points in the first quarter today) or Texas...you just said they were a top 5 team so explain how they are better than the other three 1-loss teams from the Big 12

11/2/2008 1:11:46 AM

you are penalizing Florida for beating this shit out of teams... "if they beat the shit out of teams then those teams must suck rather than Florida just being really good".

Yes it was a bad loss... but so was Mike Tyson to Buster Douglas, doesnt mean that Tyson wasnt the most dominant boxer of that time period.

My top 5 based on who deserves to be ranked there:
1. Alabama
2. Penn State
3. Texas Tech
4. Texas
5. Florida

My top 5 as in who would win more than 50% if they played each other 100 times (or who is the BEST)
1. USC
2. Alabama
3. Florida
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma




[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 1:25 AM. Reason : d]

11/2/2008 1:15:42 AM

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"you are penalizing Florida for beating this shit out of teams"

I'm not penalizing them, many of the other 1 loss teams have very impressive victories also but the fact remains that Florida's loss to Ole Miss is much more damning than Oklahoma losing to Texas, USC losing to Oregon State, Oklahoma State losing to Texas or Texas losing to TTU...you are just revealing your SEC bias.

11/2/2008 1:25:02 AM

^ no, I'm not... you are confusing two different arguments. You said its more damning to Florida... I agree. BUT, that doesnt mean that they arent a better team. They are two totally separate things.



Let me help you... Oklahoma lost to Boise State in the Fiesta Bowl a few years back. Boise State was a good team, but not amazing. There were other teams that lost to a "better" team than Boise State, but that doesnt mean that Oklahoma wasnt better than those teams.

Or another way... the Patriots lost to the Giants last year, the Cowboys beat the Giants twice. That doesnt mean that the Cowboys were better than the Patriots



as I have said over and over on here, any team can step up for one game, and any good team can slip up for one game, and that goes into determining who DESERVES rankings, but not into who is flat out better. USC had a shitty loss, but you give me their talent on offense, their coaches, their defense and I think they would beat any other team in the country more than half the time if they played 100 games.

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 1:30 AM. Reason : d]

11/2/2008 1:26:15 AM

My rankings for tomorrow:

1. Alabama
2. Texas Tech
3. Penn State
4/5 Texas/Oklahoma
6/7 USC/Florida
8. Oklahoma State
9. Utah
10. Boise St.

11/2/2008 1:41:44 AM

PLAYOFFS!

11/2/2008 1:46:43 AM

With the way the BCS system works you grade the teams based on their entire performance. That's why LSU got into the National Championship game last year over all the other 2 loss teams. Their two losses were in overtime and were not as bad as the others. The regular season is a playoff. Florida having lost to Ole Miss, at home mind you, at this point should not be higher than teams that have much more respectable losses. Having said that it will work itself out since Texas Tech will have to play Oklahoma State and Oklahoma, and Oklahoma and Oklahoma State still have to face each other in the Bedlam series.

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"I cant even imagine the BCS disaster should Alabama win out and lose in the SEC title game to florida, and then oklahoma beat texas tech. That would leave so many one loss teams all with great arguments it would be insane."

In response to this, you first eliminate any team that didn't win their conference. Since Penn State will likely be undefeated you can't exclude them just b/c their schedule is weaker. Anytime a BCS team is the only one left undefeated then they have to be put in the championship game. So we already have one team in there. Then take the team that won their conference that has the best loss. Say Florida wins the SEC and Texas Tech wins the Big XII but had a close loss to OU during the regular season, then you take Texas Tech b/c their one loss is more respectable. The two conferences are close enough in terms of strength that that is pretty much negligible. Now if Texas Tech though were to be blown out then you put Florida in. You have to go by the precedent made in past years or else you bring in controversy and make the BCS look less reputable than it already is.

11/2/2008 1:50:45 AM

yeah, #1 requirement should be that you have to win your conference

11/2/2008 1:53:25 AM

Remember when Oklahoma got into the national championship game after losing in the Big XII championship game? That was some bullshit right there, and everyone knew it. I'm glad they lost in the NC game too.

11/2/2008 1:55:00 AM

^that was the year Jason White won the Heisman over Phil just because his team was better and then they get wiped their last two games. I remember that

11/2/2008 1:03:41 AM

Georgia should have been winning that game at half time. Then you had the push off/almost pick 6 and it was 21-3 and Georgia threw in the towel. They couldn't get a call or break to go their way to save their lives. One day Florida will play a decent team that doesn't shoot themselves in the foot over and over again. They kinda did against Ole Miss and Bama won't make stupid mistakes

11/2/2008 8:13:21 AM

11/2/2008 8:35:21 AM

Yeah until they include a rule that excludes teams that dont win their conference you have to include those teams in the discussion because we have an example of it happening before. Right now you have Oklahoma sitting there at #4 and they know they still lose the tie breaker to Texas. So it is highly likely that should Texas Tech and Alabama lose and then Texas not win the big 12 title game and end up with 2 losses that Oklahoma would find their way into that game. Kinda like the Ohio State situation last year, by not having to play and people getting knocked off around them they basically back themselves in.

11/2/2008 8:47:42 AM

If Oregon State wins out and USC doesn't lose again, Oregon State will win the Pac 10.

at UCLA
vs. Cal
at Arizona
vs. Oregon

all winnable

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 8:59 AM. Reason : 1]

11/2/2008 8:59:11 AM

^they had trouble w/ an awful ASU team at home, they'll lose one of those. But if they were to win out, SC wouldn't even play in the Rose Bowl, crazy.

11/2/2008 9:04:43 AM

pretty cool piece from CFN

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"Texas’s wild win over Oklahoma, earlier this year in Dallas, ranked as one of the greatest games ever played in the history of a state where football memories run long and deep. Improbably yet undeniably, that classic in the Cotton Bowl can’t hold a candle to the Lone Star spectacular that just unfolded in the college town of Lubbock, as a new sheriff earned his badge in the Big 12 South. While it’s true that Texas Tech still has a long way to go to merely win its own division—which is by far the toughest in all of college football—Saturday night’s 39-33 high-wire act against the No. 1 Longhorns is the kind of moment that temporarily transcends the standings, statistics, and season-ending awards shows. More will be said about Texas Tech’s future in the coming days and weeks. Saturday night, however, wasn’t about national titles, Heisman Trophies, or BCS bowls. This backyard brawl against a terrific Texas team offered Mike Leach’s Red Raiders a chance to win respect against a distinguished in-state opponent. The hoedown with Mack Brown and company gave an off-the-radar program a chance to become the best by beating the best, in a high-stakes gridiron version of Texas Hold ‘Em. Nothing more, nothing less. When the smoke finally cleared after this epic duel, here’s what mattered for the lads of Lubbock: Every member of the victorious Tech sideline—coaches, players, and even trainers and waterboys—had participated in a night so magical that it will likely eclipse anything else they’ll ever see or do on a football field. Texas Tech will worry about Oklahoma State in a few days. For now, though, this titanic triumph—achieved in the most heartstopping fashion imaginable—ranks as the kind of achievement that will be passed on to children, grandchildren, and great-grandchildren in the coming decades. A win literally achieved in the last second of play—on a Graham Harrell pass that found the smallest of windows, and then Michael Crabtree’s unfailing hands—has already been etched into eternity in Lubbock, and everywhere else where hearts beat and bleed for the Red Raiders. College football connoisseurs knew the basic story before this big-time battle began: Texas Tech, the newbie to a prime-time November spotlight, would determine the outcome of this game. Texas, loaded with a bunch of big-league wins, did not figure to fold the tent under pressure, and that’s exactly what happened on this seminal Saturday night in the Southwest. The Longhorns defended their top spot in the rankings with honor and courage, persevering despite seeing many of their teammates drop like flies. Even while prime-time performers such as Brian Orakpo and Quan Cosby got dinged up during this donnybrook, other Horns heroically picked up the slack, mustering all their mental resources in a valiant attempt to stave off defeat. Down 29-13 midway through the third quarter, and constantly on the edge of disaster throughout the second half, Texas summoned up an uncommon amount of willpower—far beyond what normal 20-year-olds ought to possess—to chip away at the Red Raiders’ advantage. A team with injuries at numerous positions dug in with determination, finding a way to make the kinds of plays that had proved elusive for most of the evening. Stifled for a solid two and a half quarters by Tech’s inspired defense, Texas quarterback Colt McCoy—as if on cue—found huge downfield pass plays precisely when his team needed them. In a heartbeat, that 16-point deficit turned into a 29-26 nailbiter. On the other side of the ball, the Longhorns’ young secondary held tough on two straight Tech drives that penetrated the red zone. By allowing only three points on two sustained marches from an offense it never really stopped, the Longhorns’ defense gave McCoy a chance to steal a win on the road. To the surprise of absolutely no one, the comeback quarterback came through in crunch time, leading Texas to a go-ahead score with just 1:29 remaining. Destiny seemed to be colored Burnt Orange, and the visitors from Austin stood on the precipice of one of the more improbable victories in the storied history of Longhorn football. The same fourth-quarter forces that propelled Texas past Oklahoma a month ago were alive again in Lubbock, and it was going to take a special display of composure for Tech—its heart wounded by McCoy’s mesmerizing and mythical masterpiece—to wrest this sprawling and spine-tingling sporting event away from the Longhorns’ grasp. In a sport known for surprises, the biggest shock of all was going to be the No. 1 team’s ability to escape from the almost-certain death it faced late in the third quarter. Tech’s defense—ably coached by coordinator Ruffin McNeill—scored nine points of its own, and won the battle of the trenches for most of the night, but with just 89 ticks left on the clock at Jones AT&T Stadium, the Longhorns—by hook and not by crook—had attained a one-point advantage that, if sustained, would very likely carry them to the BCS Championship Game in Miami. So it was, then, that Graham Harrell, the unflappable signal caller who had so consistently carved up the Longhorns’ secondary, had to bear the burden of trailing despite having thrown for 412 yards up to that point, and without an interception. So good for so long, and always in front on the scoreboard, Mike Leach’s main man under center now had to sweat bullets, with the biggest game in Texas Tech history on the verge of slipping away. Pigskin pundits wondered if Harrell could handle the heat—from Texas’s defensive line, but also the pressure of this super-sized situation. In the final minute and a half of this awesome encounter, Harrell faced the biggest drive of his very young life. Looking into a gun’s barrel, Harrell decided to become a hero who will be remembered in Lubbock for generations. Colt McCoy’s counterpart calmly and coolly led his teammates to the Texas 27 in roughly one minute, entering field goal range and giving his team a chance to win with a kick. But since Mike Leach’s distaste for field goals is well known throughout the sport, Harrell decided to end the game with one of his passes. And while that’s exactly what transpired in the final frantic seconds, the Red Raiders almost lost because of a pass that didn’t turn out the way Harrell planned. With eight seconds left, an accurate aerial from Harrell bounced off the hands of Tech receiver Edward Britton at the Texas 20, but the tipped ball somehow squirted through the paws of Longhorn safety Blake Gideon. Given new life, most folks in the ballpark expected a 12- to 15-yard toss that would set up a kick. Harrell and his reliable receiver had other plans. Throwing the intentionally and slightly underthrown ball that’s become a staple of sophisticated modern-day passing attacks, Harrell found the tiny window available near the right shoulder of Texas cornerback Curtis Brown. Crabtree, running his route to perfection, caught the ball at the Texas 4 and stayed in bounds to take the ball into the end zone with a single solitary second pinned to the clock. A double unsportsmanlike conduct penalty, caused by the wild celebration that ensued, forced Tech to kick off from its own seven-and-a-half yard line, but when the Red Raiders wisely squibbed the kick to prevent Texas from employing a fair catch to set up a Hail Mary, the kind of king-size conquest awaited for decades in Lubbock had finally become a royal reality. Texas Tech, by the smallest margin possible and against an opponent that actually enhanced its stature in defeat, had joined the ranks of the elite in college football. Graham Harrell and Michael Crabtree received ample help from their teammates, but in the face of a sad and stomach-punching setback, they became the men who gave a new measure of manhood to Texas Tech football. Titles and trophies, tiebreakers and TV—these and other aspects of the championship chase will be talked about in the Texas Tech locker room when the Red Raiders prepare for another top 10 opponent from Oklahoma State. Tonight—and after this season eventually ends—there will be only one moment that will linger in the souls of those who call Lubbock home, and who have cheered a team that has toiled long and hard in the shadows of college football, a forgotten land foreign to gridiron glory. Yes, Texas Tech will surge to the top three in the national rankings with this win. In 2008, the Red Raiders could very well achieve greater things before it’s all said and done. But while one year could bring a haul of hardware to this long-suffering program, tonight’s win will last forever. One season’s successes have their place in college football. An epic win over No. 1 Texas, achieved with one second left on the clock after a mighty comeback by the Longhorns and their legendary quarterback, deserves a much higher place in the pantheon. The locals in Lubbock will talk about this captivating contest as long as the sun rises to greet the day. The Texas Tech Red Raiders of 2008 have just written their names into the eternal book where the pages of time will never wear thin."

11/2/2008 9:35:12 AM

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"Yeah until they include a rule that excludes teams that dont win their conference you have to include those teams in the discussion because we have an example of it happening before. Right now you have Oklahoma sitting there at #4 and they know they still lose the tie breaker to Texas. So it is highly likely that should Texas Tech and Alabama lose and then Texas not win the big 12 title game and end up with 2 losses that Oklahoma would find their way into that game. Kinda like the Ohio State situation last year, by not having to play and people getting knocked off around them they basically back themselves in."

Actually that's why they put in the Harris Poll so that there would be educated voters that can counteract the computers, which put Oklahoma in over Southern Cal. It's now an unwritten rule that you will not vote for a team that didn't win their conference into the national championship game.

11/2/2008 9:52:40 AM

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"But while one year could bring a haul of hardware to this long-suffering program, tonight’s win will last forever."

Am I the only one that finds this a little funny. I mean Texas Tech is a program that has averaged 8 wins a season since Leach has been there. In the Big XII they have the longest streak of winning seasons at 12, and only trail Florida State (30), Michigan (22), Florida (19), and Virginia Tech (14). Now with Michigan's loss yesterday they will be move to being the fourth among active leaders. The Red Raiders earned 56 wins from the 2000 season through the 2006 season. During the same period, only three other Big 12 teams had more victories, Oklahoma, Texas, and Nebraska. I'd love to have long suffered through that with State's football program.

[Edited on November 2, 2008 at 10:27 AM. Reason : ]

11/2/2008 10:26:34 AM

WOW, Texas Tech up to #2. I think that's where they deserve to be, just didn't think PSU would have lost a spot being idle.

11/2/2008 3:20:49 PM

how did the holes move up in the rankings when they didnt even play?

11/2/2008 5:07:30 PM

^ teams ranked higher than UNC lost.

The teams that won werent good enough to be ranked higher than UNC, thus the shift?

Thats the word on the skreet, yo.

11/2/2008 10:52:55 PM

this ECU game is retarded.. there's been like 4 turnovers in the last few minutes

11/2/2008 11:30:27 PM

This ecu-ucf game is fucking bananas.

11/2/2008 11:30:58 PM

Just more proof on why the BCS is BS. Ignoring that idiotic pun, this system is retarded.

11/2/2008 11:31:47 PM

man im glad we dont have greco anymore. Its like a faster evans

UCF pwnt

11/2/2008 11:38:29 PM

ECU tried hard to fuck it up and go 4-4.

How about Skip Holtz putting in an ice cold Rob Kass that played like shit the entire game to throw a pick w/ a minute left to win the game

11/2/2008 11:50:00 PM