OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I'm curious to find out which teams should be ranked above Kansas.
Syracuse? They also got taken to the wire by some really shitty teams (William and Mary, Michigan, NC State) but managed to win each time.
Pittsburgh? Maybe, but they still have that loss.
San Diego State? LOL 1/9/2011 8:11:50 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
lol at Kelly sliding 20 feet on the floor and them not calling a travel. 1/9/2011 8:17:37 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
any links?? no cable yet 1/9/2011 8:18:26 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
What on earth was Duke just doing there passing back to the halfcourt line with 1 on the shot clock? 1/9/2011 8:21:36 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Trying to be like Kemba. 1/9/2011 8:22:31 PM |
Schmitty All American 982 Posts user info edit post |
refs letting them battle it out so far in the duke game. too bad maryland can't hit anything outside of 2 feet 1/9/2011 8:30:54 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
Duke's offense looks horrendous 1/9/2011 8:31:04 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I honestly don't get all the Singler All-American hype. He hasn't improved a bit since he was a sophomore. In fact his numbers are a bit worse this year.
Irving was well on his way to being one and Nolan Smith is, right now, far and away the most important player to the team and a sure-fire first team All American..
[Edited on January 9, 2011 at 8:34 PM. Reason : why the hell didn't uconn recruit williams...] 1/9/2011 8:33:56 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
Has duke played an away game yet this year? 1/9/2011 8:36:15 PM |
tschudi All American 6195 Posts user info edit post |
Singler is very good but he's always been a bit overrated imo. I knew he would never be a NPOY.
^not a true one. Kansas State in Kansas City and Oregon in Portland were the closest (and UNCG in Greensboro lol)
[Edited on January 9, 2011 at 8:37 PM. Reason : ]
[Edited on January 9, 2011 at 8:37 PM. Reason : ] 1/9/2011 8:36:57 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
K State game might as well have been, but no true road games.
Oh wait, I forgot they were @ UNC-G 1/9/2011 8:37:30 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Syracuse? They also got taken to the wire by some really shitty teams (William and Mary, Michigan, NC State) but managed to win each time.
Pittsburgh? Maybe, but they still have that loss. " |
Syracuse has 2 wins against top 25 teams ND and MSU. Kansas has ONE top 25 win and that was against Memphis... So yeah Syracuse should definitely be ranked higher.
I think Kansas is a damn good team I just also see that they have played a weak schedule so far and almost stumbled multiple times.1/9/2011 8:38:04 PM |
Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Has duke played an away game yet this year?" |
@ NC Greensboro W 108-62 @ Oregon W 98-711/9/2011 8:38:48 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Looking for links stupid dish network... 1/9/2011 8:39:03 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Singler is very good but he's always been a bit overrated imo. I knew he would never be a NPOY." |
Yeah, don't get me wrong, he is definitely first team All-ACC and a player any team would love to have... maybe it's just Vitale that consistently hypes him up but I don't see him on that Sullinger, Nolan Smith, Kemba, Fredette level this year...1/9/2011 8:41:09 PM |
Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
........Maryland takes a commanding lead...... 1/9/2011 8:42:02 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Good night, sweet prince.
1/9/2011 9:48:36 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
This is the problem with the ACC this year. If this is a vintage Maryland team they win this game by 15. Duke can play absolutely putrid and still win 13-14 games... 1/9/2011 9:49:29 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
should have used a Miles pic 1/9/2011 9:49:44 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
That and they are so loaded that a number of guys have to be ice cold for them to lose the three point shot. Even without Irving, Dawkins and Curry provide a big boost to that team. 1/9/2011 9:51:26 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
are duke cheerleaders looking hotter nowadays? 1/9/2011 9:53:25 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Funny this guy made it to Cameron...
1/9/2011 9:53:37 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
True... but the conference is just plain easy this year for the #1 team. They don't have a single game left against a team currently ranked team (of course, until next poll comes out and UNC slides in inexplicably).
They'll slip up somewhere on the road I'm sure, but they can be off and win by double digits in most of these games. That wouldn't happen if you're going on the road to a Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan State, etc this year (or pick any three Big East teams).
Singler actually was the best player on the floor tonight, of course... right after I criticized him.
[Edited on January 9, 2011 at 9:59 PM. Reason : V lol, I meant any of the top teams -- didn't feel like listing them] 1/9/2011 9:54:13 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
At least write off the Seton Hall/Depaul/USF/Providence tier (worse than the bottom 4 of the ACC with the possible exception of Wake. Plus I feel like they have yet to prove they can match up to a team with solid, skilled big men on their game. Kansas come to mind. Syracuse if their bigs improve. In conference their toughest matchups may honestly be NC State and FSU, even if there are inexperience/consistency issues in the backcourt.
[Edited on January 9, 2011 at 10:00 PM. Reason : .] 1/9/2011 9:58:35 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Totally off topic, but Seton Hall was supposed to be a NCAA Tournament team with Pope and Hazell.
We joke around "NC State shit" a lot but Pope was the guy who collapsed last year and Hazell was injured this year early. And then when he finally got healthy, he got shot on Christmas!
[Edited on January 9, 2011 at 10:13 PM. Reason : but yeah, I really meant of the top teams in the conference] 1/9/2011 10:12:56 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
I think it's just called the "Jersey Situation". 1/9/2011 10:15:44 PM |
DalCowboys All American 1945 Posts user info edit post |
Saw that this was originally published on Jan 6th. But I haven't seen it posted yet. So
Quote : | "The casual fan could be forgiven for wondering if there's an ACC bylaw stipulating that there can be only one great team per year in this league.
The conference has produced the last two national champions: the Duke Blue Devils last year and the North Carolina Tar Heels in 2009. But why does it seem like lately those two legendary programs have taken turns succeeding in March? It's been seven years since the ACC put two teams in the Elite Eight -- and beyond the league's big two, NCAA tournament success has been notably elusive the last few years. Over the past four tournaments, no ACC team besides Duke or North Carolina has reached the Sweet 16. In other words, while the league always has a serious national title contender, the ACC has struggled to give that contender some company in March.
Coming into this year, it looked like that was going to change. Duke was ranked No. 1 in the preseason, and the Blue Devils were joined in the top 10 by a resurgent North Carolina. Also ranked in the preseason top 25 was Virginia Tech, while the likes of Florida State, North Carolina State and Maryland all lurked in the "Also receiving votes" small print.
What a difference nine weeks make. Duke is still ranked No. 1, of course, but as my colleague Drew Cannon pointed out the other day at Basketball Prospectus, the Blue Devils, incredibly, don't have a single ranked opponent remaining on their schedule. Talk about a crowded middle. Throw a stick at the ACC and you'll hit no fewer than eight teams with four losses.
Is there a team somewhere in that crowded middle that can make Duke break a sweat? One that could even live to see the second weekend in this year's NCAA tournament? Let's review the top four candidates.
Maryland Terrapins (10-4) The Terrapins may not get much respect from pollsters, but Ken Pomeroy's computer is more favorably impressed, ranking Gary Williams' team a respectable No. 13 nationally. Then again it's hard for humans or even a computer to know what to make of Maryland right now. The Terps have lost four games -- to Pitt, Illinois, Temple and Boston College -- by a combined 20 points. The problem in terms of evaluating this team is that the rest of their schedule has been filled with blowouts against the likes of Colgate and NJIT. On paper Maryland has an outstanding defense, one that makes life miserable for opponents foolish enough to attempt 2-point shots. And if 6-foot-10 sophomore Jordan Williams could make 70 or even 65 percent of his free throws instead of 50, we'd be looking at one serious force of nature in terms of efficiency. In the next 10 days, the Terps play Duke and Villanova. We'll know more about them after those games.
North Carolina (10-4) The last time we checked in on the Tar Heels, we found that Roy Williams' team simply wasn't scoring enough dadgum points, as the coach might say. Since then UNC has shown glimmers of respectability on offense, scoring right at a point per trip in its close win against Kentucky and in its close loss to Texas. Moreover the Heels' upcoming schedule -- with road games at Virginia and Georgia Tech and home games against Virginia Tech and Clemson -- could plausibly result in this team getting off to a 4-0 start in ACC play. But the concerns that everyone voiced with respect to UNC in November aren't necessarily dead and buried just yet. Beyond Tyler Zeller, it's hard to find a reliable workhorse in this offense. John Henson has been outstanding on D, and indeed he's excellent on the offensive glass, but his 35 percent free throw shooting certainly gives opposing defenses a handy option on any given possession. And much heralded freshman Harrison Barnes is, at best, still rounding into form, having made just 40 percent of his 2-pointers and 32 percent of his 3-pointers. The Tar Heels, as always, have talent, but whether their stars will align in a way to produces points over the next two months is the question at hand in Chapel Hill.
Virginia Tech Hokies (9-4) The Hokies return just about everyone from a team that barely missed out on last year's NCAA tournament. Usually that's a recipe for improvement, but to this point in the season Seth Greenberg's team, rather puzzlingly, has stayed more or less exactly where it was in 2009-10: a very good defense and a so-so offense. Malcolm Delaney is still Malcolm Delaney, logging a ton of minutes and doing a little of everything. But with too many turnovers and too few offensive boards, Virginia Tech simply isn't getting enough bites at the apple on offense.
Florida State Seminoles (11-4) If Virginia Tech presents a case of split personality in terms of a strong defense and a less-strong offense, Florida State is downright Jekyll and Hyde. The Seminoles might have the best defense in the country. So far this year, opponents have made 29 percent of their 3s and 39 percent of their 2s against the long and rangy likes of Chris Singleton and Xavier Gibson. The problem for Leonard Hamilton is that this may also be the worst offense in the ACC. While FSU crashes the offensive glass with abandon, it turns the ball over on 24 percent of its possessions and shoots with average accuracy, even when it does hang onto the rock.
The Blue Devils are winning the ACC (that's going out on a limb, truly), but they may get some competition from -- or even lose a game to -- mysterious Maryland or those talented Tar Heels. Stranger things have happened. But right now it looks like the ACC's recent pattern of producing one elite team per year is likely to continue in 2011. " |
Funny considering the links a couple of pages ago where N.C. State was mentioned 2nd a couple of times. AND no love for us beating them last year with extremely less talented team.
[Edited on January 10, 2011 at 8:44 AM. Reason : .]1/10/2011 8:42:41 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
I just realized Wisconsin is ranked 21.
They're tied with #24 Michigan St right now. 1/11/2011 8:05:48 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Slow start after the big win @ Texas, but UConn seems to be rolling now. Really like Roscoe Smith -- reminds me of Rudy Gay in college a lot. 1/11/2011 8:19:22 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
So he plays like he's half asleep? 1/11/2011 8:20:20 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Not necessarily like that, but like he doesn't know how good he actually is. 1/11/2011 8:23:49 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Big Ten basketball: where even the top teams can be almost as painful to watch as a Wake Forest-UVA game. 1/11/2011 8:52:32 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
ESPN Full Court preview on TWC this week
Buzzer Beater on 1540 tomorrow 1/11/2011 9:52:57 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Leslie fucking up. Let his man catch it point blank on inbound, turnover on offense, and helped too much on 3 point shooter 1/11/2011 10:12:21 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
What the hell kind of name is Jimmer?
But that dude's freaking awesome. 1/11/2011 11:14:30 PM |
Milkboner Suspended 934 Posts user info edit post |
Pittsburgh at Georgetown tonight.
[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 6:24 PM. Reason : [] 1/12/2011 6:15:38 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Has the phrase 'Bzdelik Face' been coined yet 1/12/2011 8:30:42 PM |
AuH20 All American 1604 Posts user info edit post |
Pitt is laying the smackdown on Georgetown so far. 1/12/2011 8:37:15 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
ryan kelly just had an amazing flop 1/12/2011 9:15:04 PM |
icyhotpatch All American 1885 Posts user info edit post |
FSU's midcourt seminole looks like it has bacon on its cheek. 1/12/2011 9:33:28 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
I'm going to adopt a backup college team in case this NC State thing doesn't pan out.
It's not healthy to be upset so often over sports. 1/12/2011 9:49:14 PM |
maverick31 Veteran 413 Posts user info edit post |
I think FSU and Clemson are the only two ACC schools that would qualify to play basketball in the BIG XII based on the size of their center court logos. 1/12/2011 10:30:48 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Ha they're having a contest to see who's logo can get closest to the 3 point lines without touching 1/12/2011 10:35:10 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
1/12/2011 10:38:17 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Technically, seperate logos 1/12/2011 10:39:19 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i think the B and the E give the FSU circle a run for its money in terms of closeness to the 3-pt line
and it looks like that BSU pic doesnt have the mens line painted
lol @ battle in seattle ] 1/12/2011 10:41:08 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I've said it before, but no one rushes a court like FSU... thing gets covered in a second...
[Edited on January 12, 2011 at 11:12 PM. Reason : not their best effort tonight, though] 1/12/2011 11:11:11 PM |
walkmanfades All American 3139 Posts user info edit post |
Ahaha, wow. Fun game to watch. 1/12/2011 11:13:18 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Well that assures we will take a 30 point beating now against Duke 1/12/2011 11:13:53 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
WE ARE GONNA CARRY THIS MOMENTUM INTO THE NIT 1/12/2011 11:14:05 PM |