3/8/2012 8:35:23 PM

ESPN article above said that too. 1 win vs. top 50 for us.

3/8/2012 8:35:23 PM

Zo's dunk was damn nice as well. Why would we want Stanford to lose?

3/8/2012 8:35:57 PM

need Cal to win the Pac12 so they only get one team

Washington Loss BTW

[Edited on March 8, 2012 at 8:37 PM. Reason : d]

3/8/2012 8:36:40 PM

Quote :

"Key games today (besides NC State & Miami) Bubble Teams in Bold need to lose to help NC State. Washington vs Oregon State (3:00)* Northwestern vs Minnesota (5:30)* Arizona vs UCLA (5:30) Colorado State vs TCU (5:30) USF vs Notre Dame (9:00) Stanford vs California (9:00) Texas vs Iowa State (9:30) Miss State vs Georgia (10:00) Oregon vs Colorado (11:30)"

Well Wash and NW lost, but Arizona and CS won.

3/8/2012 8:36:57 PM

ah that makes sense. didn't realize Cal was a lock, but turns out they're #37 in the RPI.

3/8/2012 8:38:52 PM

I would think we want Clemson to lose because if they beat Duke they might be looked at. been a damn close game though

3/8/2012 8:43:39 PM

It's been neck and neck for the majority of the game.

[Edited on March 8, 2012 at 8:47 PM. Reason : and VT pulls ahead by 6.]

3/8/2012 8:45:17 PM

I wonder if our RPI will rise with a VT win

3/8/2012 8:53:31 PM

I wonder if our RPI will drop with a Clemson loss

3/8/2012 8:56:42 PM

http://www.rpiforecast.com/teams/North%20Carolina%20St..html
VT is weighted slightly higher than Clemson, so it should improve us.

3/8/2012 9:00:34 PM

I almost feel sorry for Clemson.

[Edited on March 8, 2012 at 9:05 PM. Reason : but only the guy with the glasses. No one else seems to want it.]

3/8/2012 9:03:43 PM

Fuck the guy with the glasses (Narcisse)

3/8/2012 9:10:00 PM

He doesn't really matter anymore, because he's going to lose. But dork glasses are kind of cute.

3/8/2012 9:11:12 PM

Texas had a tough close win, which i guess is better than a easy 20 point win.

Cal won
MSST losing
USF and ND in a tight game

3/8/2012 11:27:16 PM

Still can't believe GT careered it against us.

About to set a record for least points in ACCT game with 36.

[Edited on March 8, 2012 at 11:28 PM. Reason : 45-43 USF with 30 secs to go, what shit basketball]

3/8/2012 11:27:36 PM

pretty sure the record is 10, and that was duke. against us. we had 12.

3/8/2012 11:28:37 PM

What were they just saying then, shotclock era? UVA with 41 was low.

3/8/2012 11:29:19 PM

oh i don't have it on. but that would make sense. could be the lowest since the shot clock was introduced.

3/8/2012 11:34:44 PM

Quote :

"Key games today (besides NC State & Miami) Washington vs Oregon State (3:00) Northwestern vs Minnesota (5:30) Arizona vs UCLA (5:30) Colorado State vs TCU (5:30) USF vs Notre Dame (9:00) Stanford vs California (9:00) Texas vs Iowa State (9:30) Miss State vs Georgia (10:00) Oregon vs Colorado (11:30)""

so far we're 5-3. very good for State. 6-3 if you count Clemson, which wasn't originally included on that list.

[Edited on March 9, 2012 at 12:01 AM. Reason : teams on left ones we wanted to lose. also still have Oregon playing]

[Edited on March 9, 2012 at 12:01 AM. Reason : oh and the list originally had Texas game as neutral (got it from SFN)]

3/9/2012 12:00:35 AM

Oregon lost too!

3/9/2012 7:56:45 AM

Wow...lots of games going the right way for us. Which only means we will shit the bed today.

I don't know how Miss St could be in. They are 8-8 in conference with some pretty bad losses (UGa last night being one of them), not a lot of good wins, and they have been SHITTAY in the last 10 or so games.

I don't think the Texas win is that bad for us. It likely gives us another top 50 win (which if we beat Uva...that will give us 3...which isn't that bad considering most of our losses came against the top 5). Northwestern, Miss St, and Washington losses were awesome. I don't know about Oregon...Pac-10 is garbage, but it's tough to see them not sending the regular season champion. I don't know. That conference is a clusterfuck.

Bottom line...we beat UVa, I think we're in. We lose...we've got maybe a 25/30% chance.

[Edited on March 9, 2012 at 8:10 AM. Reason : .]

3/9/2012 8:07:42 AM

I feel like it's an all or nothing game for us today. Win and we're in, lose and we won't even get a sniff. Just my opinion.

3/9/2012 8:13:09 AM

It's downright maddening hearing the talking heads consistently talk about teams like Texas, Miss st., Tennessee, UVA, etc. as if they are in and not even give us a chance. Frankly, even before the tournament our resume matched up well with any of those teams and we were better than a lot even while playing a much tougher schedule than some of them.

3/9/2012 8:24:11 AM

rpi down to 55

3/9/2012 8:44:17 AM

Can anyone link to the best rpi rankings site (one that updates the quickest)? I know it has been posted but I can't find it. thnx

3/9/2012 8:55:42 AM

http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html

up to the minute updates

3/9/2012 8:56:16 AM

Texas jumped to #44 in the RPI

if we beat Virginia today we should hopefully maybe possibly jump into the top 50, but who knows

3/9/2012 9:13:26 AM

Iowa St is to them as UVA is to us.

but Iowa St had and has a better RPI than UVA.

3/9/2012 9:15:43 AM

So do we want Miami to win today now? We still want them to get into top 50 rpi right but we don't want them to jump us.

If we win and they win, we will have 4 top 50 rpi wins

3/9/2012 9:26:01 AM

I say we want them to win. Regardless of what they do, we need to win today for any of it to matter.

3/9/2012 9:30:36 AM

I think if we win today were in, no matter what any other team does.

3/9/2012 9:32:26 AM

Quote :

"should hopefully maybe possibly"

3/9/2012 9:33:17 AM

^^ That is the probelm with RPI... Mia was Mia when we beat them and now a win, against a team they already beat, magically puts them into a "good win" category...

I'd just rather they go ahead and lose.



[Edited on March 9, 2012 at 9:41 AM. Reason : ^]

3/9/2012 9:33:57 AM

Gottlieb had us in as a lock if we win today.

[Edited on March 9, 2012 at 9:39 AM. Reason : and pray]

3/9/2012 9:38:49 AM

During the Purdue/Nebraska game last night, I like how when ESPN posts Purdue's resume (1-8 v RPI top 50) they put "8 of 11 loses against top 50 RPI teams." Sound somewhat familiar? Wish they would use that artful euphemism when talking about State.

3/9/2012 9:38:54 AM

^ So Purdue has the exact same record as us. We both have 8 RPI top 50 losees, but Purdue has one RPI top 50 win (vs. Mich, how is everyone's quality win against Mich?). But Purdue is locked into the tourny and projected 8 seed, while we sit on the bubble... What gives?


Ohhh b/c Iona is a top 50 and Temple is a top 25 RPI W.... RPI is such shit

Iona, who lost to Hofstra, Marshall, Manhattan, etc..

[Edited on March 9, 2012 at 10:08 AM. Reason : .]

3/9/2012 10:00:04 AM

If we move up to RPI 50 or better it would really help - That would give Miami and Texas more losses vs the RPI top 50 when they show their stats

(aside from the obvious top 50 looks better for us)

3/9/2012 10:15:26 AM

SFN is blowing up twitter comparing us to other bubble teams, and it looks really good for us:

Quote :

"road/neutral records: NC State 8-5, Texas 5-9, So. Florida 5-11, Tennessee 3-10, Miss. St. 6-8, Miami 6-8 "

Quote :

"Wins vs Top50: USF 1; NW 1; Drexel 1; UCF 2; MIA 2; BYU 2; #NCState 3 #ncstatebracketfacts"

Quote :

"Texas & Miami now Top50 RPI. NC State now 3-8 vs Top 50. Actually 0-5 vs Top TEN. 3-3 vs 11-50. #ncstatebracketfacts"

Quote :

"Only 5 BCS schools have tougher OOC schedule than @PackMensBball"

Quote :

"Records vs Top100: Texas 4-10; Miami 3-10; #NCState 5-9. NC State 1-0 vs UT; 2-0 vs MIA #einsteinbracketologists #ncstatebracketfacts"

3/9/2012 10:16:27 AM

miami is not a top 50 team, just texas

[Edited on March 9, 2012 at 10:21 AM. Reason : digger phelps just said a win over uva would seal the deal]

3/9/2012 10:20:05 AM

Digger giving Wood and CJL some love on ESPN. Saying that if we beat UVA we are in.

3/9/2012 10:22:53 AM

if we cant beat UVA this late in the season when they are down 2 starters...
we really dont deserve an NCAAT bid.

not sure how you substantiate our case if we lose today.

3/9/2012 10:43:33 AM

Quote :

"3-3 vs 11-50"

I'll take meaningless stats for $100 Alex.

3/9/2012 10:53:18 AM

If we don't win today we don't deserve a bid and we definitely won't get one.

If we win today we are prob 65-70% in, needing a little help. We can't bitch if we miss though because frankly we have a sketchy resume with too many losses and there are quite a few teams who are better than us who are not going to get bids.

Praying for a Maryland upset, but a loss to unc definitely wouldn't hurt our rpi. Just make sure we don't lose by 20+ and give the committee a reason to leave us out

3/9/2012 11:11:44 AM

miami and texas are now both in the top 50 but we've dropped to 57

3/9/2012 1:42:16 PM

OH MY FUCKING GOD THIS IS SO EXCITING.

I SURE WISH I DIDN'T HAVE CLASS IN FIFTEEN MINUTES FUUUUUUCK

[Edited on March 9, 2012 at 1:46 PM. Reason : the letdown i'm going to feel if we lose this game is absolutely massive.]

3/9/2012 1:44:36 PM

To those who say conference tournaments don't matter, this is the biggest game for State in years.

3/9/2012 1:44:50 PM

watch us beat Virginia and knock them out of the top-50

3/9/2012 1:45:53 PM

^ lol, knocked them down to 49

We are up to 46 though

3/9/2012 4:37:09 PM

ESPN said we're up to 4-8 vs top 50 RPI, fwiw

3/9/2012 4:38:09 PM