JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
game 6/9/2012 10:58:28 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
David Stern doesn't want BOS win. LBJ VS KD can certainly earn more money for him 6/9/2012 11:01:05 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
fuck it, i rather see lebron go out with flat performances and an 0-3 record in the finals anyway. 6/9/2012 11:03:39 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Awesome, Heat/Thunder, wonder how many times we'll see that over the next 4-5 years. 6/9/2012 11:05:35 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
once 6/9/2012 11:06:00 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha ok dude 6/9/2012 11:06:35 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
fuck it, i rather see lebron go out with flat performances and an 0-3 record in the finals anyway. 6/9/2012 11:06:45 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Phew. We now have a Finals worth watching. OKC in 5. 6/9/2012 11:07:11 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
Heat takes it this year
next year, perhaps not. 6/9/2012 11:07:48 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
I don't like LBJ winning rings. I hope thunder's big 3 can beat them. 6/9/2012 11:08:01 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
as soon as he wins his first, this whole LBJ as villain shit will quiet down big time.
[Edited on June 9, 2012 at 11:09 PM. Reason : people might actually have some rational perspective on shit.] 6/9/2012 11:08:49 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
that's game 6/9/2012 11:09:06 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
hopefully the refs will let them play this series, instead of buttfucking the Thunder with technicals in the first 24 minutes of the series and essentially saying "we're not gonna let you win"]
6/9/2012 11:10:25 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
cleveland fans vs. seattle fans. 6/9/2012 11:11:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
i cheered for the hornets when they went to new orleans, after all it wasnt the players who moved the team...i think seattle people might feel the same way
cleveland fans on the other hand would never cheer for the heat 6/9/2012 11:12:44 PM |
Kickstand All American 11597 Posts user info edit post |
OKC in 5. 6/9/2012 11:17:57 PM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
OKC in 7 6/9/2012 11:38:31 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
I wish Harden were a better defender. I think Wade could have a huge series. I expect Thabo to play a lot more minutes 6/10/2012 9:35:43 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Hey NyM410...
Quote : | "Your cock still hard over Heat-Thunder?" |
Yes...yes it is.
[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 9:51 AM. Reason : .]6/11/2012 9:51:14 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
If LBJ can't get ring this year, the big 3 may break down or the coach is fired. 6/11/2012 10:08:55 AM |
stateredneck All American 2966 Posts user info edit post |
^You just blew my mind man. 6/11/2012 10:14:31 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I don't like LBJ winning rings. I hope thunder's big 3 can beat them." |
I don't have a dog in this show but I hope he does win a ring. ESPN has got to mix up their story after that... if nothing more than changing it to:
Lebron can't be the best current player because he only has one ring. He's got to score in this extremely specific scenario and have a minimum of (#of rings he currently has + 1) before blah blah blah.6/11/2012 10:40:36 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I think I like the Thunder better, but I hope Lebron and company wins it this year. This Lebron hating is fucking ridiculous. The guy toils away in fucking Cleveland for 6 years while ownership makes shittastic move after shittastic move (only the Bobcats management made Cleveland look better), with his only fuck-up being "the decision"...which ended up raising $6 million for charity.
Other than that...why the hate? He complains and acts for calls like every other NBA player (Tim Duncan, everyone's poster child, is probably the worst). He's not an asshole like Jordan. No reports of him fucking broads on every road trip (he might do it, but at least he doesn't slip-up like Kobe/Jordan). And he doesn't seem to be a degenerate gambler (Jordan/Barkley).
Someone please give me some legit reasons. 6/11/2012 10:49:23 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
People just don't like seeing him go for help on winning rings at a very early period. 6/11/2012 10:59:40 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah...too bad he didn't already have Scottie Pippen on his team 6/11/2012 11:00:33 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Another reason is probably ppl don't like seeing him joining MIA, a luxury city. Too easy to get help and fun will make him lose motivation. 6/11/2012 11:11:49 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
valid point 6/11/2012 11:15:34 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I would like Lebron much more if he took his talents to Minneapolis/St Paul....
[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 11:19 AM. Reason : .] 6/11/2012 11:19:27 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
That's why people don't hate Durant. 6/11/2012 11:35:13 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Durant's organization got lucky with his team still sucking and getting great draft picks. Lebron and the Cavs fucked up by actually being decent in the beginning of his career and not getting a ton of lottery picks like OKC did. And they were just ABYSMAL in free agency.
Trust me...if OKC was shitting the bed and getting knocked out in the first couple rounds (or maybe if Durant carried his team to the finals only to get obliterated by a real team)...then he would be looking elsewhere just like Lebron did. 6/11/2012 11:39:08 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Also LBJ can't hold people's expectation on him. In fans' minds, he should keep trying to be the next MJ like Kobe does even if he can't. In the contrary, he escaped, like what he does in some biggest moments of games. Even if he can win 6 rings in MIA, he's not as heroic as winning a ring in CLE by himself.
[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 11:43 AM. Reason : 1]
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[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 11:47 AM. Reason : ;] 6/11/2012 11:42:56 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Who does everyone have??
I'm sticking with my Heat in 6 because that's what I said in the beginning. I realistically think it will be a 7 game series with a 50/50 chance of either team winning. Should be a great series. 6/11/2012 12:49:11 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
OKC in 6 6/11/2012 1:00:08 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
HEAT in 7. 6/11/2012 1:10:45 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i don't see how someone can prefer two egomaniacs from miami over four kids who gladly live in oklahoma city for their basketball team.
that plus okc is a better team.
Quote : | "Trust me...if OKC was shitting the bed and getting knocked out in the first couple rounds (or maybe if Durant carried his team to the finals only to get obliterated by a real team)...then he would be looking elsewhere just like Lebron did." |
trust me guys, i know kevin durant better than you know kevin durant.]6/11/2012 1:34:17 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
"4 kids who would gladly play in OKC"
Ha! First (although I love him), Westbrook isn't an egomaniac?? Most on this board have criticized him for taking too many shots and thinking he's the bigger superstar than Durant. And he stayed in OKC because he got PAID! We'll see what happens when Harden and Ibaka's contracts come up.
Durant is pretty damn humble. But "you people" are glorifying these OKC guys just to spite Miami. 6/11/2012 1:38:45 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "trust me guys, i know kevin durant better than you know kevin durant." |
Name the last megastar that stayed on a mediocre team? Nash and Stockton are about it (and they aren't even mega superstars).
Payton and Malone tried to ride the Shaq/Kobe train. Drexler and Barkely teamed up with Hakeem (funny...don't remember anyone freaking out then). The best players are either in the mix for the title every year, or they move to teams that are. When your organization doesn't do shit for you, you have to move on. We'll never know about Durant...but history suggests otherwise.
[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 1:42 PM. Reason : .]6/11/2012 1:40:55 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i cheered for the hornets when they went to new orleans, after all it wasnt the players who moved the team...i think seattle people might feel the same way" |
nah, Seattle fans are still extremely bitter and absolutely hate OKC
a good friend of mine lives in Seattle and he says it's pretty wild how bitter the fans are6/11/2012 1:43:25 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i know it's true. i'm making fun of you for saying "trust me" like you know something the rest of us don't.
either way, you can't hate this kid.
6/11/2012 1:44:41 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
lulz at the dumbass who tried to throw a fade in the corner over a 6'11" Durant.
extra lulz for the person trying to get him to sign his clayed-up, dirty ass Nike shoe. 6/11/2012 1:55:09 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
The big difference with Lebron, and I think the impetus of a lot of the hate, is the fact that he switched squads in his prime (or really, at 25, even before his prime). Almost every other star who jumped to a contender in the past few decades did so at the tail end of their career. The public saw Garnett, Malone, Payton, Barkley, etc. as making one last ditch effort to get a ring before they had to hang it up. With Lebron, he had at least another good 10 years to play when he made his jump. We saw that as selfish; thus the backlash. 6/11/2012 2:06:48 PM |
Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Heat in 6. I think Lebron is going to make a statement in game 1. 6/11/2012 2:07:34 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
To counter that a bit...
Garnett is the only one of those guys who never really had a shot at a title. He mired in the 1st round losses forever and never had any real help (Gugs!!). He's the only one you can really point to as being true to his team. Even then...he finally had enough. You could probably say Lebron looked at KG's situation as said..."fuck that, I'm not going through that shit."
Malone, Payton, and Barkley at least had their shots...but unfortunately played in the Jordan era. So unless they joined the Bulls or all teamed up together, they weren't going to win their title at that time.
Lebron could have stayed in Cleveland and kept trying to do it himself (like he did that one year, but got crushed by SAS)...but he truly was getting no help and saw that it would only get more difficult once Boston got the Big Three and Howard was emerging in Orlando (probably didn't foresee Orlando's front office being as inept as Cleveland's). Most of those guys listed had big star help on their teams during their prime (Payton and Kemp, Stockton and Malone, Barkley had a great team in Phoenix with KJ)...Cleveland surrounded Lebron with Mo Williams, Sideshow Bob, and Antawn Jamison.
[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 2:13 PM. Reason : .] 6/11/2012 2:12:07 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
I don't quite get the media fear that the Big 3 may be over. Didn't they all just sign long term contracts with Miami? 6/11/2012 2:21:34 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
But he went for help from the no. 3 scorer in the league at the moment (Wade) plus no. 2 player in the paint (Bosh). Even if he went to NYC or New Jersey, he wouldn't get so much criticism.
[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 2:26 PM. Reason : 1] 6/11/2012 2:23:50 PM |
markbrandpan Veteran 358 Posts user info edit post |
KD seems like a great person, is a great (and rapidly improving) player, and I hope he gets a title eventually. That being said: I hope Lebron destroys OKC. 6/11/2012 2:26:10 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
The conference finals this year tell people you can't beat guys in 20s when you are 30s unless you are MJ. 6/11/2012 2:28:29 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But he went for help from the no. 3 scorer in the league at the moment (Wade) plus no. 2 player in the paint (Bosh). Even if he went to NYC or New Jersey, he wouldn't get so much criticism." |
Last response to shoot, because you're just throwing darts now...but,
He might as well have stayed in Cleveland, because those teams suck as well. He went to the best available team with the best available situation. Why would he leave one team that he had to completely carry to play for another team that he had to completely carry? And if he had gone to New York and they would have gotten Amare as well as Carmelo and Lebron...then we'd be having the same argument.
New Jersey?? Please.
"The Decision" rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. For some reason it either snowballed into a ridiculous hatred and/or they just can't get over it. It's really sad and petty. Because Lebron is not only the best player in the NBA, he also seems to be a fairly good and likeable guy. No big fuck-ups, no cheating, no trouble with the law...had some good commercials playing all the different Lebrons a couple years back.6/11/2012 2:32:41 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
The Decision only told people one thing: LBJ wouldn't be as good as MJ, even KB.
[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 2:41 PM. Reason : ;] 6/11/2012 2:38:45 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
I'm agreeing with pretty much everything jbrick83 is saying.
I'm excited about this finals. Should be exciting. I'll go MIA in 6.
[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM. Reason : name] 6/11/2012 3:10:48 PM |