What are you running your vcore at Prospero? I had to bump mine a little to get past 3.4 on my c2d, but i run it at 3.2 for everyday use.

6/6/2007 9:34:38 AM

As far as folding optimization goes, you'll find a TON of info in their forums.
http://forum.folding-community.org/viewforum.php?f=12&sid=7821a2e80ad924626726b855956968b7

Of their forums, I like the General FAH one the best...though the client specific ones are pretty good too.
http://forum.folding-community.org/viewforum.php?f=12&sid=7821a2e80ad924626726b855956968b7

Heres a thread with a bunch of good info: http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic19771.html
Another: http://forum.folding-community.org/ftopic19978.html

6/6/2007 9:47:26 AM

let me know how many sustained PPD you guys can get with these overclocked C2D processors.

6/6/2007 9:49:10 AM

i run my vcore at stock setting of 1.275 for 3.0ghz (9x333), 32'C idle, 48'C load

here's my settings for 3.6:
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc.php?id=192647

i think the vcore was maxxed out at 1.5v, i could've tried 1.55 or 1.6, but didn't want to fry anything, i probably could go higher than 3.6 if i had a larger cpu cooler it really came down to heat

i can easily sustain 1 SMP WU per 22 hours or so, PPD depends on the project, i get roughly 1500-1800 per WU now, sometimes i have my computer off when i got out of town, other reasons, but if i kept it on 24/7 my daily stats would show this.

for frame of reference my work computer (Pentium D 3.0Ghz, 3.5GB of memory) runs 1 SMP WU in about 3 days...

[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 10:02 AM. Reason : .]

6/6/2007 9:53:00 AM

Getting between 1700-1900ppd but i'm probably going to down clock it back to 3.2, and i don't run it all the time. I only have one dual core on my user name right now. The other three are p4's.

6/6/2007 10:00:27 AM

now that i think about it, 3.4 came easy and was perfectly stable at 1.45v i think

this is showing 1.44v but i think i was able to drop it a bit lower
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/6076/3400orthossv2.jpg

this isn't a great example though because at first i didn't know my motherboard had a fsb gap near 400, so ideally my 3.4 should be (8x425) but requires better NB cooling and more voltage increases...

but like i said before i backed it down so i'm not running anything over what their stock voltages are to reduce heat and electricity usage and to prolong the life of my parts

[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 10:12 AM. Reason : .]

6/6/2007 10:05:31 AM

I've got the same mobo as Prospero, the MSI P6N SLI-FI. The memory is PQI PC6400 DDR2, on the cheap side, but 800Mhz, so I think some coolers is all it'll need since I don't really want to OC the memory much, if any.

I hadn't really considered getting a different CPU cooler, but that's definitely important - any you'd recommend, preferably something I can go out and get at TD?

[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 10:22 AM. Reason : .]

6/6/2007 10:17:22 AM

well i'm a big fan of my arctic cooling freezer 7 pro, it performs excellently, it fits in most cases, no tools required, no back plate, lightweight, and best of all it's cheap - http://www.directron.com/acfz7pro.html

i'm not sure TD carries it, i couldn't find it on their website, but maybe in store? i dunno

6/6/2007 10:28:15 AM

^I don't mind shopping online as long as the shipping isn't ridiculously expensive or slow. I prefer to shop in person usually, just because it's faster.

I'll definitely check that out, but I'll swing by TD after work and see if they have anything comparable.

6/6/2007 10:36:49 AM

^^^ Shouldn't be overclocking your ram if you have 800. Mine is still underclocked.

http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/product/Liquid/All-In-One/cl-w0065/cl-w0065.asp
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106078 (59 bucks!!)

My first experience with water cooling. It's simple and almost too easy to be called water cooling, but at the time i had a low budget, but still wanted water cooling. And it's great cooling for 60 bucks compared to air.

Keeps my C2D 6600 running around 32/idle at 3.4ghz. (Around 40-44 load i think)

[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 10:50 AM. Reason : .]

6/6/2007 10:42:07 AM

Quote :

"^^^ Shouldn't be overclocking your ram if you have 800. Mine is still underclocked."

care to explain this?

6/6/2007 11:32:14 AM

I think i can..
Correct me if i'm wrong, i'm still new to all the ram stuff, but if DDR2-800 has a bus clock of 400MHz, then depending on what ratio you use, wouldn't you usually be under the 400 limit (333 times a 9 multiplier) for example. So doesn't that mean the ram is running under 400MHz and is underclocked?

-grr ok after doing some research i admit i'm still confused about all the ram timings and ratios. I only started messing around with overclocking a few months ago.

-so for example if you had a ratio of 1:1 wouldn't that mean you would only need ddr2-667 to have a clock speed of 333*9? (that's why most higher end dells with c2d's only come with ddr2 667 ram i believe.) Like on my asus board it sets a 1:1 ratio by default, and that matches the fsb with the ram timing, so 266 would be 266 ram or ddr2 533.

-So what i thought was people get 800 speed ram to have more overhead with a 1:1 ratio, or to be able to change that ratio to allow for stability tests for the cpu. So you can determine what's failing at higher clock speeds, the ram or the cpu.


[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 12:05 PM. Reason : .]

6/6/2007 11:47:00 AM

well most of that's true but all those assumptions are if you are running 1:1 ratio

for instance i have ddr2-1066 memory, so for me to underclock it down to 667 makes no sense whatsoever, even at lower latency timings, there's NO way it would make up for the frequency and bandwidth difference, thus i run my memory at 533mhz instead of 333mhz

most people typically underclock for the purpose of overclocking the cpu, ONLY until they've reached the max cpu settings, THEN they start overclocking the memory, and this is typically only required in AMD setups. the only other reason to underclock is to reach a 1:1 ratio

for example the highest fsb i can hit is 425mhz, i have two options with memory, i could either:

a) lower my memory down to 425, making it run at (850mhz effective) and lower my timings to make up some of the difference in frequency loss (typically underclocking allows lower than default timings)
-or-
b) run my memory at it's default speed of 533mhz (1066mhz effective) and run a ratio of 4:5 instead

so you can take either route, i chose the later as i swear my load times in games significantly dropped over 850 w/ lowered timings, but some swear that lowered timings at 850 is faster... i guess one of these days i'll have to benchmark my system to know for sure

6/6/2007 1:04:39 PM

Sweet, thanks for explaining that. Right now i have a 1:1 ratio, so i guess i could try changing the ratio and increasing the ram speed and see what happens.

[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 1:10 PM. Reason : .]

6/6/2007 1:09:20 PM

^or if you wanted to stay 1:1 and underclocked you could try lowering your timings

^^so in that instance if you only had ddr2-800 memory, you'd have to OC it to get to 850...

in addition, upping the voltage on your memory, while not considered "overclocking" is sometimes required to be stable at lower than default timings...

1:1 doesn't always give you the best performance, while it's preferred, it doesn't allow for the maximum OC, most people max OC, then back off to the nearest 1:1

i just don't have sufficient cooling nor the right motherboard to hit FSB speeds that can even come close to running 1:1 with my memory

like i said before it kinda all depends on what your goals are for OC'ing (gaming, longevity, stability, 3d modeling, folding, etc...) different applications required different things... depends on how cpu or memory intensive it is.

good luck

straight from NoAffinity (retired Mod of Overclock.net)
http://www.overclock.net/43671-post5.html

Quote :

"4:5 offers a little bit more bandwidth, which probably equates to a little bit better performance in gaming. If your CPU maxes out way before your RAM, then 4:5 will offer a little bit better performance. Conversely, if going 4:5 is going to limit you from maxing out the CPU in 1:1, then 1:1 will most definitely offer better performance. The only time that 4:5 is really offering any benefit is either with 533 FSB CPU's coupled with faster DDR, or on the new LGA775/DDR2 boards, where DDR2 speeds are exceeding 600 mhz. It is not feasible to expect a current LGA775 CPU to overclock to the levels that would be required to run the faster DDR2 out there in 1:1 with the CPU."

[Edited on June 6, 2007 at 1:29 PM. Reason : .]

6/6/2007 1:12:45 PM

so i guess the next benchmark is 2000 points per day

6/6/2007 6:08:34 PM

I guess I"m a little confused. I have a linux and no FAH console, but it says it's running. NOthing is in the backround. So is it running all the time?

6/7/2007 9:36:37 AM

what distro?

6/7/2007 9:43:28 AM

Fedora

6/7/2007 11:13:26 AM

How did you start it up? If you do it using rc.local, then you don't actually see the console.

Try running "top" from a terminal. If F@H is running it will be at the top of the list as "FAHCore"

6/7/2007 9:27:29 PM

last couple of days have been great.
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59

lets add more PCs/PS3s and keep the momentum going!

6/8/2007 2:11:00 AM

up 50% in active users the last month (from 40 to 60)
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_users.php?s=&t=59

6/8/2007 3:03:27 AM

^if you dont mind answering since you have like 1800 a day...how much does a ps3 get per day? more than your overclocked beast?

6/8/2007 3:08:55 AM

we're getting passed by more teams than we pass ourselves.

at this rate, we'll get knocked down to about 110th place in a year.

6/8/2007 3:17:58 AM

We've made great strides in the last few weeks. Not only do we need to keep recruiting new members, but we also need to keep the ones we have folding. Hold the course while we continue to get reinforcements.

Also, are there any other NCSU themed sites that we should be advertising on?
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6/8/2007 6:45:02 AM

Quote :

"^if you dont mind answering since you have like 1800 a day...how much does a ps3 get per day? more than your overclocked beast?"

as far as I know PS3's get close to 900 ppd

Quote :

"We have picked the PS3 as the natural benchmark machine for PS3 calculations and set its points per day to 900 to reflect this middle ground between speed (faster than CPU, but slower than GPU) and flexibility (more flexible than GPU, less than CPU). "

it's touted as superior to the PC because most PC's get around 200-400 ppd on a single core, this is why running the SMP is so advantageous and anyone using a dual-core cpu should be using the SMP core... previously i was running 2 consoles with -local and getting maybe 400 ppd


[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 9:49 AM. Reason : .]

6/8/2007 9:23:32 AM

I'm pretty sure some of the Core 2 Duo chips (even un overclocked) are getting well over 900PPD

6/8/2007 9:28:04 AM

Yeah my record was around 1900. I put it back to 3.2 and it's getting like around 1700 i think.

Aren't ps3's 8 core? I don't know why sony put so many in there, because don't the games usually only utilize a few? Anyway i wouldn't buy one, they went out of date before they came out. People compare it's GPU to a 7800gtx. Won't even be able to run newer games like Crysis, too slow. I'd like one for Guitar Hero though. Wireless guitar!

[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 9:39 AM. Reason : .]

6/8/2007 9:35:24 AM

Hey all,
I'm new to this board. I'm a sophomore af ncsu and just joined the ncsu folding@home team. I have a ps3 and will be runing it approximately 8-10 hrs a day, maybe more when I get back to the dorm room. My donor name is Marshall_PS3_NCSU. I just thought I would say hey and help support the good cause.

6/8/2007 11:52:18 AM

welcome!

6/8/2007 2:23:40 PM

Welcome!

6/8/2007 2:39:33 PM

Nice to see some new blood around here. I challenge you all to take me out of the lead.

6/8/2007 3:02:59 PM

At 95 on the team, i'm coming! And i got in the top 100 with only 7 wus.

[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 3:20 PM. Reason : .]

6/8/2007 3:18:56 PM

could i install this on my parents computer? i'd probably slow mine down but they leave theirs running all the time and hardly use the computer at all

6/8/2007 3:57:51 PM

yeah as a service.

6/8/2007 4:01:27 PM

http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/main.py?qtype=userpage&username=drunknloaded

hi all...this one is me...i created it a while ago...anyway i can reactivate it?

[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 4:03 PM. Reason : ^sorry, didnt think anyone responded since i posted that]

[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 4:14 PM. Reason : fuck i think i messed up...i put a different name]

[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 4:14 PM. Reason : damn i'm team 0 also...i think i'm supposed to be 59 or something]

[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 4:17 PM. Reason : ok i think i fixed it]

6/8/2007 4:02:42 PM

hell yeah, i'm not in last place...i'm 257 out of 294...even though it might slow down my computer yall keep posting about it and i feel left out so i'm gonna do it...but i'm still gonna try to get it on my parents computer

6/8/2007 4:33:43 PM

My PS3 is back up and running full time...never did go dark like I siad, just was turning it off sometimes

6/8/2007 4:37:02 PM

i adjusted the settings so it isnt lowest priority and i moved that slider bar of core whatever to like half

6/8/2007 9:41:24 PM

you're better off with idle and 100% imho, it'll finish a lot fast than with a low priority and 50%

any higher priority than idle and you'll notice an overall system performance hit

if 100% is too much you can always back it down to idle and 80-90%, but you'd be wasting a perfectly good idle cpu

[Edited on June 8, 2007 at 11:38 PM. Reason : .]

6/8/2007 11:36:10 PM

Quote :

"Neo: I challenge you all to take me out of the lead."

yeah, ima catch up to you alright... as soon as you quit folding and then give me about 10 years.

6/9/2007 12:45:27 AM

Quote :

"you're better off with idle and 100% imho, it'll finish a lot fast than with a low priority and 50% any higher priority than idle and you'll notice an overall system performance hit if 100% is too much you can always back it down to idle and 80-90%, but you'd be wasting a perfectly good idle cpu."

Agreed, don't mess with the priority.
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Don't forget anyone can use these nifty signatures.

6/9/2007 6:47:24 AM

Got the C2D machine put together, and this is my first post from it. I'm still waiting on the HDD(Posting from a Linux live cd ), but It'll be folding by next week.

Welcome mwlaney2!

Beryl on live CD...awesome

6/9/2007 4:05:12 PM

Heres a history of the NCSU team for those who haven't seen it (i'd import it into excel for easy reading).

Turns out we were ranked as high as #81 back in 2005

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/csv/team_csv.php?t=59

6/9/2007 5:09:29 PM

We'll beat 81 in the next few months.

6/9/2007 5:17:02 PM

we're going to need alot more PCs and PS3s to do that...hell I'd be happy to be back in the top 100 at this point. If we continue this upward momentum though we have a chance.

look here for time estimates
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_summary.php?s=&t=59
and here for extended time estimates (all based on current production of course..which hopefully will continue going up)
http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/team_overtake.php?s=&t=59

At our current rate of production, in 3.5 months, we'll have 7 teams pass us, and we'll pass 4. So we'll be in 106th place in 3.5 months if all things stayed the same

6/9/2007 5:39:22 PM

god with all the people that could hack some shit we should try to get a super computer or something

6/9/2007 5:57:42 PM

well, it'd help if we had silversurfinsmackrcrackers back

6/9/2007 9:17:48 PM

send him a pm, i think hes on tww

6/10/2007 6:07:55 PM

C2D is online, overclocked, and folding!

I've got 2.0 stable ATM, but 2.3 is as far as I've pushed it.

6/10/2007 9:09:05 PM