steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
BREAKING NEWS
Canes acquire Doug Weight
http://tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=152946&hubname=nhl
Looks like a bunch of draft picks are being sent over for him, and it says we outbid Nashville, Ottawa, and Calgary. I dont know how I feel about this... If the team aint broke, don't fix it. However, it is nice to be a little deeper with injuries and all.
Someone on the Canes board is saying Zigomanis, Boulerice and draft picks. If this is true, then I am happy
[Edited on January 30, 2006 at 1:43 PM. Reason : d] 1/30/2006 1:36:11 PM
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Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
"I believe I now have as good a chance as any to win a Stanley Cup and there was no way I was going to pass this up."
So what do we have 5 good centers now? Or maybe Vasicek was involved in this trade? 1/30/2006 1:44:19 PM
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Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
a centerman?
not a defenseman... 1/30/2006 1:45:17 PM
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NCSUAli All American 2554 Posts user info edit post |
HOLY CRAP!
I knew that the Canes were interested in Weight, but the rumors I heard was that the Blues wanted Ladd and some draft picks in return, which turned me off. Oh man, let's hope that this results in unloading some dead weight (*cough* Boulerice *cough*), no pun intended! 1/30/2006 1:49:28 PM
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steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
In exchange, Carolina gave to the Blues three draft picks and three players. The package includes: - Carolina's first-round pick in 2006. - Toronto's fourth-round pick in 2006, previously acquired by the Hurricanes. - Chicago's fourth-round pick in 2007, previously acquired by the Hurricanes. - Tough guy forward Jesse Boulerice, a 27-year-old eighth-year pro - Forward Mike Zigomanis, a 25-year-old fifth-year pro - Magnus Kahnberg, 25, an unsigned Carolina draftee from Sweden who will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1
my take: 1st round pick hurts, but that is probably what other teams were unwilling to give up. It seems kind of expensive for a guy who I think is going to be a UFA next year... I am inclined to give Rutherford the benefit of the doubt this year though.
We get this guy too: Erkki Rajamaki http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=3195&hubname=nhl-blues
[Edited on January 30, 2006 at 1:56 PM. Reason : cc] 1/30/2006 1:53:22 PM
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apkaufma All American 12079 Posts user info edit post |
holy shit, would have never guessed that trade would be made, but i guess with the loss of cullen, we needed a center
[Edited on January 30, 2006 at 2:02 PM. Reason : a] 1/30/2006 2:00:29 PM
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steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
I guess i can live with the first round pick being given up, since it will be the #30 overall, bwahaha 1/30/2006 2:07:26 PM
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Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Cullen will be back after the Olympic break, and Vasicek will be back then as well hopefully, so I guess we're going to carry 6 centers. Vasicek has played on the wing a lot in the past, so I'm sure that's what he will do, but I'm not sure who else will switch to wing. 1/30/2006 2:11:37 PM
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vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Kevyn Adams has already been playing on the wing for most of the season. No biggie. 1/30/2006 2:13:47 PM
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BigPapa All American 4727 Posts user info edit post |
I think this is a pretty good trade. Draft picks hurt but those players have to develop and based on our ranking this year we aren't looking at a high first round pick anyways. 1/30/2006 2:45:01 PM
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NCSUAli All American 2554 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I guess i can live with the first round pick being given up, since it will be the #30 overall, bwahaha" |
That's what I'm saying!
Also, from what I've read, the 2006 draft is supposed to be fairly weak past the top 10, so I don't feel so bad about giving up that 1st round pick. 1/30/2006 2:55:53 PM
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stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
This is should tell everyone that this team is going after the Stanley Cup this year... 1/30/2006 3:28:43 PM
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NCSUAli All American 2554 Posts user info edit post |
I'm really looking forward to NHL Live tomorrow morning to hear their take on this. They've been singing the praises of the Canes as of recently (this morning they mentioned Brind'Amour as a potential candidate for MVP, definitely nice to hear), so we'll see what this trade brings up.
The "Your Call" posts on TSN are a pure source of entertainment in the meantime ![](images/biggrin.gif) 1/30/2006 3:37:57 PM
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steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/hockey/nhl/01/30/weight.traded/index.html
neat poll on the side, looks like people think this is a huge pickup for us 1/30/2006 3:46:08 PM
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hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
Weight will be an UFA by the end of the year, so we'll have for about 40 games. The price is pretty steep for 40 games. We better win the Stanley cup because of this. 1/30/2006 4:17:43 PM
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NCSUjew All American 3608 Posts user info edit post |
It's a big acquisition, but I'm not happy about giving up a first round pick for what the team and Weight himself terms as a "rental". I'd be happier about the deal if Weight had more years left in his contract. 1/30/2006 4:37:46 PM
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Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
At 5.7 million a year, I wouldn't want him to have anymore years on his contract after this. 1/30/2006 4:48:52 PM
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NCSUAli All American 2554 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?columnist=burnside_scott&id=2312343
According to the above article, looks like Rutherford won't be making any more moves between now and the trade deadline unless there's an injury to account for. 1/30/2006 4:49:12 PM
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Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Chicago's fourth-round pick in 2007, a pick acquired in the recent Radim Vrbata deal" |
So I guess we know what came out of that deal with Chicago now 1/30/2006 4:50:52 PM
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vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
The salary for this deal is the the balance of the season (31 games), so we'll owe $2.15 million to Weight. Players are not paid during the p-word, so there's nothing to worry about there.
[Edited on January 30, 2006 at 5:26 PM. Reason : d] 1/30/2006 5:26:39 PM
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GiZZ All American 6982 Posts user info edit post |
hell yeah.
and the hurricanes are the lead story on espn.com 1/30/2006 5:33:48 PM
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MalikDaMan All American 1445 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he "Your Call" posts on TSN are a pure source of entertainment in the meantime " |
Gotta love the sour grapes from the Senators Nation. 1/30/2006 6:15:10 PM
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Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is should tell everyone that this team is going after the Stanley Cup this year..." |
1/30/2006 6:39:42 PM
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jglandwe All American 723 Posts user info edit post |
I like this. My only question, do we need this many centers?
Brindy Staal Weight Cullen Kevyn Vasicek
Who gets winged besides Adams? Cullen, maybe? 1/30/2006 7:23:15 PM
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Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
I think Adams will still play center on the 4th line. Vasicek has played wing a lot before so I'm sure he will when he comes back, and I would imagine Cullen will as well.
Staal Stillman Cole Vasicek Brind'Amour Williams Weight Whitney Cullen Adams Ladd LaRose/Adams/7th defenseman
Something like that perhaps?
[Edited on January 30, 2006 at 7:28 PM. Reason : maybe switch Ladd and Vasicek?] 1/30/2006 7:26:14 PM
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steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
So.... after all of this news today, and reading great things about the team, it has finally hit me how good this team is, and that we might actually contend for the cup. It has really put a smile on my face to think of what could come out of this season, especially considering where this team has been the last few years, and all the assholes talking about relocation. Has anyone else started to feel like this? I knew we were damn good, but it just took today to really grasp everything. 1/30/2006 7:34:32 PM
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Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
I've been feeling it for a while, but I think it just went up a notch today. Just this morning I was reading Bob McKenzie's column, and he said Calgary and Ottawa were the leading candidates for Weight. I think this is the first time a player has come here because he thought the Canes were a contender. I'm used to us dumping players off at this time of the year. This is the biggest trade the Canes have made since relocating here I think, and it is going to be weird going into the playoffs if the Hurricanes are one of the favorites to win it all. I should have put some money on them when the odds were like 200:1! 1/30/2006 7:39:22 PM
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steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
Canes recall David Gove from Lowell, he will be available for the road trip...
http://carolinahurricanes.com/news/news.asp?articleid=1457
who the fuck is david gove? 1/30/2006 8:17:52 PM
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Zamboni All American 669 Posts user info edit post |
^Don't know who he is, but he's not a prima donna and that's all that matters to me.
I am just stunned at how well and hard we are playing this year. I hate to say it, but I think there were some particular ego issues in years past that hurt. Now, it seems like it's all team and no ego for everyone. Even the goalies both seem content with their share of the net.
This team is so much better than past Carolina teams that it is almost unfathomable. 1/30/2006 8:28:03 PM
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dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
nice
senators losing 4-0 to boston and philly is down a goal to NYR heading into the 3rd 1/30/2006 8:55:30 PM
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Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
its surreal that the canes not only moved into 1st place, but now have a 4 pts lead over #2. that is amazing. 1/30/2006 9:05:05 PM
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hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
that lead will be tough to hold on to with the 4 games road trip coming up. 1/30/2006 11:57:49 PM
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vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
We signed Gove after the rookie/prospect camp during the summer. He's a Ziggy-type player, and now that Ziggy's gone, some guys like Gove and Aucoin will get a chance to plug in here and there and see how they do in the show. 1/31/2006 2:31:35 AM
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hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
He's probably gonna play for one game only, cause Weight will start playing on Friday. 1/31/2006 10:04:01 AM
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WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^sens have two games in hand, but yes 4 points is solid! 1/31/2006 10:21:33 AM
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Blue Jay All American 3082 Posts user info edit post |
I am just having trouble believing that somewon Waived a "no trade" clause to come to carolina.
And people please, I think it was pretty obvious that we were after the cup before the trade, considering we have been #1-#3 in the league all year. Act like you been there before. (Cause we have). 1/31/2006 10:53:31 AM
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WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah, as the fluke 16 seed in the playoffs
we have been there before, but never really had a "chance" at the cup 1/31/2006 11:05:49 AM
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Blue Jay All American 3082 Posts user info edit post |
I think we had as good a chance as any team has had after we took home ice away from Detroit, winning game one, then having a great shot to win game 3 in triple OT.
Plus we were a 3 seed in the east that year, and after getting by NJ, we had a reasonably open road. 1/31/2006 11:12:22 AM
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WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
I worked for the NHL up in New York, and to be honest, I was a huge Carolina fan, but nobody outside of Wake County thought they had a chance
After the second game, I went to the copier and they had already designed the cover for the Red Wings victory DVD
I know we had a "chance", but with the difference in firepower, that chance was a longshot! 1/31/2006 11:15:47 AM
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Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
![](http://nhl.speedera.net/img/team/car_comp.gif) ![](http://nhl.speedera.net/img/team/mon_comp.gif)
Carolina Hurricanes (36-11-4, 76 pts) at Montreal Canadiens (23-20-6, 52 pts)
Hurricanes are 13-7-3 on the road Canadiens are 14-6-2 at home
Tuesday, 7:30 PM EST TV: None Radio: Y102.9 FM
STANDINGS Hurricanes - 76 points, 1st place, Southeast Division, 1st place, Eastern Conference Canadiens - 52 points, 4th place (tied), Northeast Division, 9th place (tied), Eastern Conference
TEAM LEADERS Hurricanes - Eric Staal, 31 goals, 35 assists and 66 points; Mike Commodore, 86 PIM Canadiens - Michael Ryder, 20 goals; Koivu, 24 assists and 38 points; Steve Begin, 93 PIM
SPECIAL TEAMS Hurricanes - Power play: 19.5 percent (67 for 343), 7th in NHL. Penalty killing: 81.2 percent (229 for 282), 18th Canadiens - Power play: 18.7 percent (53 for 283), 10th. Penalty killing: 80.7 percent (247 for 306), 21st
GOALTENDERS Hurricanes - Martin Gerber (25-8-2, 3 SO, 2.71 GAA); Cam Ward (11-3-2, 3.43) Canadiens - Jose Theodore (17-14-5, 3.36); Cristobal Huet (3-4-1, 2.88)
SEASON SERIES Hurricanes, 2-0
LAST MEETING Jan. 23; Hurricanes, 7-3. At Raleigh, N.C., Staal and Justin Williams each had a goal and two assists for the Hurricanes. Tomas Plekanec scored twice for Montreal.
INJURIES Hurricanes - Matt Cullen (jaw), Aaron Ward (hernia), Josef Vasicek (knee) Canadiens - Garth Murray (shoulder), Andrei Markov (shoulder)
[Edited on January 31, 2006 at 12:31 PM. Reason : Gaaaarrrtthhhhh]
1/31/2006 12:20:07 PM
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NCSUjew All American 3608 Posts user info edit post |
^Garth Murray...not Glen. Luckily the injuries didn't match up otherwise you would have had me thinking he got traded ![](images/beatup.gif) 1/31/2006 12:29:30 PM
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Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
Whoops
I just looked at the last names and filled in the first names myself ![](images/beatup.gif) 1/31/2006 12:31:07 PM
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NCSUAli All American 2554 Posts user info edit post |
(jumping back to yesterday...) Erik Cole's reaction to the Weight trade was, by far, the best. I could hear him put on his fake Canadian accent (not to be confused with his upstate NY accent - the two often blend) as he said:
Quote : | ""This is huge," Hurricanes forward Erik Cole said. "If this doesn't say we're in it to win it, I don't know what will. This acquisition, maybe more than our play, will raise a red flag to everyone so skeptical to jump on board."" |
and...
Quote : | ""I've got chills," Cole said Monday, moments after he got off the phone with Weight. "He's the best available player and a great fit for us."" |
http://www.newsobserver.com/122/story/394630.html 1/31/2006 12:57:44 PM
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V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
what the hell has happened to Vrbata 1/31/2006 1:18:37 PM
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Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
He was traded to Chicago a few weeks ago. 1/31/2006 1:20:26 PM
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Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
someone be sure and give weight the memo;
the canes dont do shit all game, once they get down 2 goals, which is usually around 3 minutes left in the 3rd period, they go on a frenzy.
[Edited on January 31, 2006 at 1:47 PM. Reason : -] 1/31/2006 1:47:22 PM
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Vulcan91 All American 13893 Posts user info edit post |
I think he got a little taste of it already when the Blues were up 2-0 on Carolina after 1, and Eric Staal came back after losing a tooth to score a hat trick en route to the Canes' 4-2 win. ![](images/beatup.gif) 1/31/2006 3:01:32 PM
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NCSUAli All American 2554 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/powerranking ![](images/biggrin.gif) 1/31/2006 3:08:17 PM
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WolfMiami All American 8766 Posts user info edit post |
^that is still sad that the Canes were in sixth before moving up to two 1/31/2006 3:17:11 PM
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NCSUAli All American 2554 Posts user info edit post |
^looks like you're a bit back...hit refresh, 'Canes are in the top spot
ESPN didn't update their power rankings for a good month or so, hence why the 'Canes were in 6th for so long, then jumping up to 2nd, now 1st. 1/31/2006 3:20:17 PM
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