Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
When you watch a movie and the dude says "Cover Me"...he's not telling his buddy to pinpoint and shoot every one of his enemies directly in the middle of the forehead
He's telling them to lay down supressive fire so he can make a run for it without being shot to death by the enemy
Accuracy whores like Treetwista will never understand this, and thus will continue to suck horsecock at this game 11/24/2009 4:35:42 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not arguing against covering fire. But if I know what building the sniper is in and my job is covering fire, I'm going to hit the windows of that building with controlled fire. Maybe I misinterpreted what was said earlier because it sounded like people were advocating busting off an entire LMG clip in the general direction of an enemy just to help cross a road, when a concentrated effort against that same sniper would be more effective and efficient.
Quote : | "When you watch a movie and the dude says "Cover Me"...he's not telling his buddy to pinpoint and shoot every one of his enemies directly in the middle of the forehead" |
Says the motherfucker who watches Steven Seagal flicks where he DOES shoot every dude in the middle of the forehead
When you watch a movie and somebody says "cover me", the guy in the movie might have unlimited ammo because its a movie. In real life, or in COD, you don't have unlimited ammo.
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 4:51 PM. Reason : .]11/24/2009 4:46:29 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
With an LMG, you pretty much do, because it takes 20 seconds to go thru a clip, and nobody is saying to let fly a whole clip at once 11/24/2009 4:51:11 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Its ok to be jealous of my accuracy. We can't all be 19.5% and rising. Just play your game and I'll play mine. And when its all said and done, The White Warriors will emerge victorious. 11/24/2009 4:53:09 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
19% vs 16%
1.09 vs 1.57
Yeah you got me there
Be on tonight...I'll show you how real boss playas do real boss things 11/24/2009 4:55:56 PM |
Stimwalt All American 15292 Posts user info edit post |
ROFL @ White Warriors will emerge victorious.
The entire point of covering fire is to make the enemy seek shelter from the loud spray coming at them. If you are tap shooting, the enemy may be less inclined to seek said shelter, and may tap shoot right back at you, or even worse, at the dude running for a better strategic position under the false assumption that his teammate is actually protecting his ass.
Which is worse, wasting a few extra bullets, or watching your buddy choke on his own blood for your shitty accuracy score?
Just sayin...
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 4:59 PM. Reason : -] 11/24/2009 4:56:58 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
It's a good thing the military doesn't keep track of stats like this or we'd have a lot more dead returning home.
that is assuming everyone in the military would suddenly turn into a treetwista type. 11/24/2009 5:07:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
I sure do hope our military's snipers just shoot wildly!
Also with General Golovko in charge, all his troops would be crossing roads all the time...we'd have 100x more IED deaths since strategic geniuses like him would advocate occupying normal trails and roads, where enemies never set boobytraps!
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:22 PM. Reason : .] 11/24/2009 5:19:50 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
come on man...bring something better than that to the table.
no never mind...that was perfect...hilarious!
. the point
o - treetwista's head
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:23 PM. Reason : .]
11/24/2009 5:21:56 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
This is funny though, please keep it up. I want to hear even more reasons why being an accurate shot in a FPS is a bad thing
Accuracy = BAD
If you don't realize that, YOU DON'T GET IT
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:23 PM. Reason : rawr rawr] 11/24/2009 5:22:52 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
. the point
o - treetwista's head 11/24/2009 5:24:39 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Don't argue with Tree, he'll throw gems like this at you
Quote : | "So last year, among AL shortstops, Jeter had THE BEST fielding percentage, and was tied for the fewest errors.
Tell me again why he didn't deserve a gold glove? " |
11/24/2009 5:24:49 PM |
divinguy04 All American 1385 Posts user info edit post |
people who brag ab their KD ratio typically spend 90% of the time losing matches in domination trying to get kills 11/24/2009 5:25:06 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
oh the jealousy
just cause you guys are either uncoordinated as shit or something else doesnt mean the only way to provide covering fire is to blast wildly to scare someone...my shots count...I get tons of "you've saved a teammate" or whatever kills...but its clear now that some of you really suck at shooting accurately and you're trying to justify it by bringing up irrelevant situations
^^yeah Golovko, why dont you explain the point then? Oh yeah, because you realized it would be retarded to try and explain why somehow accuracy is bad
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:26 PM. Reason : .] 11/24/2009 5:26:01 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
my accuracy is better than yours btw...just fyi
we're just pointing out that you don't understand the need for covering fire and your only focus is your kd accuracy stats because you're a stats whore. this is also why you cant figure out the single player.
Also, you have difficulty reading because you some how came to the conclusion that accuracy is bad when we brought up the need for covering fire in certain situations using certain support classes.
you're probably too high anyway...*shrug*
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:29 PM. Reason : .] 11/24/2009 5:26:28 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
then i guess you're definitely a worse teammate than me, by your own logic 11/24/2009 5:27:05 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
I don't play support classes. I just use assault rifles and shotguns and hunt down enemy snipers for the sheer joy of knowing i pissed someone off who thought he had a good camping spot. 11/24/2009 5:30:51 PM |
divinguy04 All American 1385 Posts user info edit post |
add me btw: xbl pleiotropy 11/24/2009 5:33:34 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
xbl: ktk golovko 11/24/2009 5:34:25 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we're just pointing out that you don't understand the need for covering fire and your only focus is your kd accuracy stats because you're a stats whore." |
Look here you fucking dumbass bitch.
I understand the need for covering fire just fine. Apparently you think theres only one way to do it which shows you're a pretty simpleminded player. ONLY ONE WAY TO DO EVERYTHING.
And I don't focus on my KD stats. I try to get more kills than deaths because...thats what wins TDM matches. And if I focused on my accuracy stats, why wouldnt I just run around and knife people to get it crazy high? I happen to have a good accuracy % and automatically people don't want to think "wow maybe he's a pretty good shot"...you want to make up bullshit about how I can't play the game the right way and still have good accuracy. It must be some selfish shit.
Quote : | "this is also why you cant figure out the single player." |
what? i beat it on veteran, what do you mean i cant figure out the single player? you just talking out of your fat ass as usual?
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:35 PM. Reason : .]11/24/2009 5:34:37 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
the best way to deal with a sniper is a counter sniper
anytime you get one to put his head down with suppressing fire he generally turns around, whips out his shotgun and points it at the door, unless of course he knows his shit and has already rigged the access with claymores. 11/24/2009 5:35:18 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Look here you fucking dumbass bitch.
I understand the need for covering fire just fine. Apparently you think theres only one way to do it which shows you're a pretty simpleminded player. ONLY ONE WAY TO DO EVERYTHING.
And I don't focus on my KD stats. I try to get more kills than deaths because...thats what wins TDM matches. And if I focused on my accuracy stats, why wouldnt I just run around and knife people to get it crazy high? I happen to have a good accuracy % and automatically people don't want to think "wow maybe he's a pretty good shot"...you want to make up bullshit about how I can't play the game the right way and still have good accuracy. It must be some selfish shit." |
giving the enemy the opportunity to fire back != covering fire you dumb bitch. now go smoke a bowl and stfu already.
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:39 PM. Reason : looks like treetwista's feelings were crushed...poor guy.]11/24/2009 5:39:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
NOBODY CAN POSSIBLY BE ACCURATE UNLESS THEY PLAY SELFISHLY
WHY DONT YOU GO SMOKE SOME WEED
no wonder Glovko is constantly getting in pissing matches with people...he's always right, even when he's just pulling guesses out of his ass about how people play
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:42 PM. Reason : .] 11/24/2009 5:41:08 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
I see you brought out the big guns...CAPS LOCK!
Also, you just reaffirmed my point, you can't read because you certainly can't type out a word thats staring you right in the face.
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:43 PM. Reason : .] 11/24/2009 5:42:20 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
WEED JOKE
ASSUMPTIONS
GUESSES
SHIT TALK
i'm not the one trying to belittle someone elses skills because of my false perceptions simply based on their accuracy stat...hey he called me out on it, i'll call him a stoner and win the favor of all the straightedge faggots!
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:43 PM. Reason : .]
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:44 PM. Reason : GLOVECO]
[Edited on November 24, 2009 at 5:45 PM. Reason : hey look i'll call him out for misspelling my name! theres no possible way he did it on purpose!] 11/24/2009 5:42:39 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the best way to deal with a sniper is a counter sniper" |
11/24/2009 5:50:12 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
ok look golovko, lets both you and i get this thread back on course
but theres just one thing that makes no sense to me
Quote : | "this is also why you cant figure out the single player." |
??11/24/2009 6:01:48 PM |
wahoowa All American 3288 Posts user info edit post |
you guys need to settle this on the battlefield of mw2. 11/24/2009 6:13:50 PM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
we will make a circle of riot shields and you two knife it out in the center 11/24/2009 7:15:20 PM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
I'm down for some riot sheelds
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 11/24/2009 8:21:04 PM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
Best way to take care of a sniper in COD4 was UAV Jammer, silenced p90, and enough suppressive fire from teammates to draw the snipers attention.
Thats how you win, IMHO. You've gotta have both stat whores and suppressors. Hell, I've seen teams actually run it in formations, with guys running point and all. Those are usually the best teams... those that have a gameplan going into it, and maintain constant communication throughout. 11/24/2009 8:30:37 PM |
seedless All American 27142 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cod4central.com/cod4-weapon-stats.php
Can't wait until CODMW2 weapons stats are out there this. 11/24/2009 10:04:33 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
Just so y'all know, accuracy on this game doesn't mean shit. 11/24/2009 10:16:21 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
That doesnt stop me from padding my stats on aircraft with machine pistols! 11/24/2009 10:24:38 PM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
so after last night i'm having second thoughts on my lust for the m16. everyone else is just spraying a scar, acr, or p90. i can't get in accurate shots when being killed through walls via random spray /w fmj. maybe i'll try stopping power? then again i'll get the acr tonight so i could just noob it up that way. 11/25/2009 7:47:36 AM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
11/25/2009 7:51:22 AM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
^^I think it's going to take a few months for the game to really take the shape it was intended to.
World at War never got to this point because it was so plagued with cheaters and map hacks, but in the final months before MW2's release i went back and played nothing but COD4. I had some of the best and hardest matches i had ever played with a lot of tactics and strategy other than just blazing around corners and burning through a clip. Using flash bangs to clear out rooms and bunkers, covering others while they breached the entry way, quick sharp shooting instead of all out open fire and people who actually wanted to plant the bomb with some sort of game plan. It was great.
Christmas will set this back longer, but once the kids and the spray and prayers get bored they'll move on to something else and you'll really be able to use the set ups you want and play the game at the pace and style you want. 11/25/2009 8:10:27 AM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so after last night i'm having second thoughts on my lust for the m16. everyone else is just spraying a scar, acr, or p90. i can't get in accurate shots when being killed through walls via random spray /w fmj. maybe i'll try stopping power? then again i'll get the acr tonight so i could just noob it up that way." |
the m16 is in my normal cycle right now (i've been switching between the ACR, M16, and the mini-uzi). The biggest thing i've noticed with the M16 is the difference with and without stopping power. I always have to use stopping power now. It makes it so that 1 accurate burst will do the job, and with FMJ makes it better. It just took a while to get used to the whole 3 shot burst action.
Even though it might seem nice to just rock the ACR, the extra bullets youll have to pump into the enemy to kill them is very noticeable, despite it's high accuracy.11/25/2009 10:35:00 AM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
m-16 with stopping power is my go-to by far. One burst and they are dead, pretty much any range. 11/25/2009 10:42:32 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
question - do any of you guys play the actual game or do you only play online?
not trolling, serious question
[Edited on November 25, 2009 at 10:53 AM. Reason : asdf] 11/25/2009 10:53:23 AM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
Most of them probably blew through the single player and now only play multiplayer 11/25/2009 10:54:59 AM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
already beat the sp posted on the last page.
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 11/25/2009 11:00:08 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Treetwista held me down last night, I'm tired of having to carry his ass match after match
I let him know that I was going to ditch him if he didn't step his game up quickly 11/25/2009 11:01:46 AM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
So in every facet of the leaderboard my score in every column is higher than my roommates but for some reason he's consistently 1 level above me. Any idea why?
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 11/25/2009 11:04:03 AM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
slave i sent you a message last night and received no love
iNth is the tag, hook it up! 11/25/2009 11:13:40 AM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The biggest thing i've noticed with the M16 is the difference with and without stopping power. I always have to use stopping power now. It makes it so that 1 accurate burst will do the job, and with FMJ makes it better. It just took a while to get used to the whole 3 shot burst action. " |
no cold blood makes me emo!11/25/2009 11:14:30 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Oh sorry I thought it was some rando
Next time The White Warriors will accept you with open arms 11/25/2009 11:24:46 AM |
wahoowa All American 3288 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Treetwista held me down last night, I'm tired of having to carry his ass match after match" |
Was he Atwatic (sp) last night? I popped his ass a few times camping on that walkway in the snow level.11/25/2009 12:11:02 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
yeah were you that bean unc guy
you need to capatalize the TWW clan tag if you want to be put on the same side as us 11/25/2009 12:21:53 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So in every facet of the leaderboard my score in every column is higher than my roommates but for some reason he's consistently 1 level above me. Any idea why?" |
the score posted there only takes into account your non-challenge points. It's likely that you've completed more challenges than he has, but hes gotten more in-game points like kills, captures, assists, etc.. obviously challenge points will boost you higher level faster.11/25/2009 1:00:37 PM |