20+ ppg next season in the NBA & rookie of the year..go TJ

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5/24/2014 8:55:50 AM

Well then, Earl's arguments are thus transported to truth and verity by the shining lone example of Jarrett Jack.


QED, mofos

5/24/2014 9:13:20 AM

Ty lawson and Raymond Felton both stayed 3 years and signifcantly improved their 3pt shot as a junior. They could have easily left as sophomores but wouldn't have the longevity and stardom they see today and thats just the one school i follow off the top of my head.

Its basically a similar story with most of the successful players in the nba that aren't physical freaks. If you are going to be a skilled player than refining your skills in college is the best bet. If you are going to be a freak who out-athletes his way over other players, then preserving your youthful years is the way to go.

5/24/2014 1:40:54 PM

Felton is a career 33% 3PT shooter in the NBA

meanwhile, Lawson's 3PT % has decreased every year he's been in the pros

if only the 3 point lines were the same in college and the NBA you might have a point

or if Warren played on loaded teams and won championships

[Edited on May 24, 2014 at 1:49 PM. Reason : .]

5/24/2014 1:45:53 PM

thats not bad. its not great but its good enough to keep getting him significant playing time and shots 9 years later despite being an idiot on and off the court.

Having the threat of an outside shot is the point. It doesn't have to be a 3. If an NBA player can knock down a college 3, that is enough to keep the defense honest. Warren's just not going to be worth a clogged paint.

[Edited on May 24, 2014 at 1:55 PM. Reason : k]

[Edited on May 24, 2014 at 1:56 PM. Reason : those teams were only loaded and won championships because these guys came back]

5/24/2014 1:53:36 PM

Tj can only hope to reach the level of stardom Raymond Felton has achieved

5/24/2014 8:55:08 PM

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"Felton also said he felt he was better than Jeremy Lin,[10] who was signed by the Houston Rockets that offseason."

5/24/2014 8:59:44 PM

^^ dude's been in the league for nine straight years (and was only out of shape for one of them!), that's nothing to scoff at.

5/25/2014 1:44:14 PM

ESPN Insider on TJ.

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"I was also really impressed with North Carolina State's T.J. Warren. I've been a skeptic in the past. While he's clearly one of the three most gifted scorers in the draft (Jabari Parker and Doug McDermott are the other two), Warren's unorthodox game and lack of a legit 3-point shot have raised question marks for me. Warren's measurement and athletic testing numbers in Chicago made me give him another look. He measured bigger and more athletic than I expected him to. His drill work was just so-so Thursday. He's not a great shooter from beyond the arc, and he's not the quickest or most explosive in drills. But when the ball rolled out for 3-on-3 action? Holy ... Warren is so aggressive as a scorer and can get his shot off in multiple ways. You can't sit on him defensively. He just has too many moves, floaters, hesitations and ways to get that ball in the bucket. That explains why he shot nearly 76 percent at the rim this year and 44 percent in his 2-point jumpers. The guy can score. His competitiveness in those game situations just shines through. He's hungry and he wants to dunk on everyone. I think the over obsession with athletic metrics and skills can hinder the obvious -- if you want a bucket-getter, Warren is as good as anyone in the draft. If he ever gets a better 3-point shot, he could easily be a 20-points-per-game scorer in the NBA. Given that scoring comes at a premium, I think we also have him too low -- maybe considerably too low on our draft board. Teams as high as Phoenix at No. 14, Atlanta at No. 15, the Bulls at No. 16 and the Celtics at No. 17 will be giving him long looks. "

5/27/2014 5:45:05 PM

plz to go to the bulls, although I don't know if he would do well with Rose.

5/27/2014 8:44:23 PM

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"@AlexKennedyNBA: T.J. Warren's draft stock is on the rise, per league sources. Don't be surprised if he goes in the teens. He looks like a mid-first rounder."

6/14/2014 11:49:45 AM

Has anyone seen the espn the magazine nba draft preview issue? Pj harriston gets a three page article starting on page 79 Tj gets basically a side bar on page 103 or some bull crap. I guess they wrote all of this before Tj got invited to the draft green room.

6/23/2014 1:39:37 PM

TJ gets more love for helping us land Henderson

Heard TJ will also be in the green room for the draft tomorrow night

6/25/2014 2:26:19 PM

Does he have a chance?

6/25/2014 2:39:17 PM

I mean, to be fair, Cleveland IS picking number one so I would say he has as good a shot as any player really lol

6/25/2014 2:46:30 PM

TJ is the anti-Purvis

6/25/2014 2:51:26 PM

Biggest day of his life.

T-J! T-J!

6/26/2014 6:45:11 AM

i really hope he doesn't Leslie his way through the draft

6/26/2014 7:43:50 AM

^TJ's draft stock is higher than Leslie's was after both his sophomore and junior year.

Can't imagine TJ dropping out of the first round. Esp. considering how well he did in the team workouts(apparently dominated in 1-on-1 and 3-on-3 workouts).

[Edited on June 26, 2014 at 8:00 AM. Reason : .]

6/26/2014 7:59:59 AM

if he drops past the Hornets late 1st rounder I'll be livid

6/26/2014 8:01:49 AM

Saw a rumor he got a promise from the Suns, who have 3 first round picks (#14, #18 and #27)

6/26/2014 8:23:04 AM

TJ is awesome. I don't really follow the NBA much, so whatever team gets TJ will be my new favorite team. Would be cool to see it be the Hornets, but really I just want whatever situation will be best for his NBA career.

The latest mock draft from Ford showed TJ dropping all the way to 27 or so for some reason, not sure why. Hopefully he goes in the lottery, I honestly think he'll have a better career than Doug McDermott.

6/26/2014 10:39:44 AM

the Hornets won't take him as their first pick, unfortunately. I'd love to see him go to the Bulls but they need shooters. I think he'll land with the Suns

6/26/2014 11:14:14 AM

Jabari or TJ: Who wore that suit better?

6/26/2014 6:15:39 PM

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6/26/2014 9:03:25 PM

6/26/2014 9:04:39 PM

Good luck in Phoenix!

6/26/2014 9:08:01 PM

Good fit for him. Should help the Suns make the playoffs next year

6/26/2014 9:08:15 PM

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"Every scout will say that same thing which is exactly why he needed another summer to work on the shot then come back and shoot well from 3 next season then be a lottery pick. I mean even if he didn't have the shot, he'd still be the top scorer in next years draft without parker and mcbuckets."

E Man, you are right. TJ should've come back so he'd be a lottery pick next year. Too much talent in this years draft and Warren just isn't good enough to crack the lottery this year.

Oh. Wait. Never mind.

6/26/2014 9:09:06 PM

Which team will draft TBDV?

6/26/2014 9:09:32 PM

The Australia Dingos

6/26/2014 9:12:22 PM

If he pretended he never played in the US he'd go first round.

6/26/2014 9:12:39 PM

Who is making the TJ Warren MVP thread for jaybee?

6/26/2014 9:30:32 PM

does jaybee follow men's basketball?

6/26/2014 9:34:10 PM

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"Which team will draft TBDV?"

Knicks. The NY TBDV's.

6/26/2014 9:48:57 PM

^^^^Yes!

6/26/2014 9:50:10 PM

TBDV should have a solid pro career. He will be a regular face in the "Former pack players in pros thread"

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6/26/2014 9:53:02 PM

Lurking in the shadows of the Suns D-league sits a man ready to be for TJ what Pippen was for MJ. Rise! Rise! Rise! Rise! Rise!

6/27/2014 6:38:03 AM

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"Rise! Rise! Rise! Rise! Rise!"

like a phoenix from the ashes

6/27/2014 8:40:17 AM

^did he ask for a 13?

/old

6/27/2014 9:50:23 AM

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/story/1415100-a-skilled-scorer?s=178

6/27/2014 10:15:42 AM

Quote :

"E Man, you are right. TJ should've come back so he'd be a lottery pick next year. Too much talent in this years draft and Warren just isn't good enough to crack the lottery this year. Oh. Wait. Never mind."

The first rule of Sports Talk is don't respond to Earl.

6/27/2014 10:17:17 AM

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"the Hornets won't take him as their first pick, unfortunately. I'd love to see him go to the Bulls but they need shooters. I think he'll land with the Suns 6/26/2014 11:14:14 AM"

booyah. not the boldest prediction in the world, but a correct one at least.

Happy for him, although I would have prized a Warren Hornets or Bulls jersey.

6/27/2014 10:40:20 AM

It's easy when you don't already have an NBA team. Now I can just become a Suns fan. Might snag me a Warren Suns jersey, though I still need to get me a Wilson Seahawks jersey too.

Seems like a great fit for TJ though. I could definitely see him developing into the leading scorer for the Suns within a couple years or so.

6/27/2014 1:17:39 PM

i'll own up: i didn't think he'd go anywhere near that high, and was clearly dead wrong. excellent news for everyone.

6/27/2014 1:51:03 PM

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2014/story/_/id/11139035/2014-nba-draft-grades-every-team

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"PHOENIX SUNS | GRADE: B Round 1: T.J. Warren (14), Tyler Ennis (18), Bogdan Bogdanovic (27) Round 2: Alec Brown (50) Analysis: The Suns addressed three big needs in the draft. They needed a small forward who can score the ball. Warren can do that. He's an incredible scorer who just has a nose for the hoop. They needed a back-up point guard and Ennis is as steady as they come. They also needed another 2-guard, and while I doubt Bogdanovic comes over right now, he's a terrific scorer who could play in the NBA someday. What the Suns didn't add, and what I think they could use more of, is athleticism. Neither Warren, Ennis nor Bogdanovic are great athletes. All three of these players have the potential to be solid rotation players. Ennis has starter potential someday and Warren's ceiling may be even higher than that. But I'm not sure what they got here puts them into true contention in the West any time soon."

6/27/2014 4:55:18 PM

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"The first rule of Sports Talk is don't respond to Earl."

i guess you could say he went a little Earlier than predicted

6/27/2014 5:19:49 PM

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"The first rule of Sports Talk is don't respond to Earl."

Why are people still not heeding what you say synapse. Shame I tell you

6/27/2014 5:46:49 PM

when he got drafted I was talking to my lady friend on the phone....the converstation went something like this

"hey babe i have to go, something positive about NC State athletics is on TV"

is that odd"

"ya, its kind of a big deal"

6/28/2014 1:26:39 PM