BOO-YAH

THIRTY TWOOOOOOOO

[Edited on April 11, 2006 at 6:25 PM. Reason : ]

4/11/2006 6:24:52 PM

I'm just posting again to not have "666" post count

4/11/2006 6:25:00 PM

this thread is a circus

4/11/2006 6:25:01 PM

http://calfolly.ytmnd.com/

4/11/2006 6:25:04 PM

pad

4/11/2006 6:25:06 PM

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"rumors and bullshit"

4/11/2006 6:25:20 PM

noone do that again

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4/11/2006 6:25:23 PM

bom bom bombom mwaaaaaawwwww

4/11/2006 6:25:31 PM

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"i'm 100% confident that i have no fucking clue what will happen"

4/11/2006 6:26:06 PM

didnt you just post that we arent getting Cal?

4/11/2006 6:26:45 PM

nm

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4/11/2006 6:27:22 PM

yeah but i'm not someone with knowledge. i'm just very pessimistic. and a state fan. so that's like double.

i mean think about it, if he was coming here, he would have told his team by now. they would have told their rents, that means leaks to the media. not a thing has come out about him leaving.

[Edited on April 11, 2006 at 6:29 PM. Reason : ]

4/11/2006 6:27:54 PM

did something leak about herb?

4/11/2006 6:34:41 PM

yeah herb got shot for dressing like a gang member

4/11/2006 6:35:39 PM

Pessimism should run rampant in State fans, we rarely catch the breaks, it's like Jimmy V soaked up all of our good-luck that one year and now we're paying for it, haha.

4/11/2006 6:36:00 PM

^ lol, wouldn't be surprised

4/11/2006 6:37:59 PM

just so you know, he is staying put
they gave him the raise he wanted for his assistants

he pulled a nc state

4/11/2006 6:38:56 PM

he wolfpacked his salary

4/11/2006 6:39:29 PM

THANKS JON GUTH FOR TELLING US YOUR UNFOUNDED OPINION

4/11/2006 6:39:51 PM

this was just posted by memphis insiders

4/11/2006 6:41:20 PM

i hope thats not true

4/11/2006 6:42:03 PM

haha we got punk'd again

bring on in that mid-major

YOU ALL KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ANYWAY

4/11/2006 6:42:13 PM

we should go after tubby smith next

i hear he could use a pay raise too!

4/11/2006 6:42:46 PM

funny memphis insiders knows but espn and cbs and the AP are still in the dark

wtf are you doing with a memphisinsiders subscription anyway

4/11/2006 6:43:26 PM

how reliable do you think memphis insiders is though

4/11/2006 6:44:13 PM

i hear john brady's looking for a raise too

4/11/2006 6:44:28 PM

HEY LOOK ACCORDING TO ESPN.COM CALIPARI HASNT REACHED A DECISION YET

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/index

BUT DONT BELIEVE ESPN.COM WHEN IT COMES TO SPORTS, TRUST A BUNCH OF COLLEGE MESSAGEBOARDS

4/11/2006 6:45:12 PM

WRAL updated their status on this situation at 6:34pm. I think this is what they updated.

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"On Tuesday, Memphis reportedly made its counter-offer to Calipari. It's reportedly an offer of $1.5-$1.7 million, which will put it in the ballpark with N.C. State. He also has a $2.5 million annuity that will mature in 2010. Something that has reportedly miffed Calipari is that the offer has come late in the game. After the Memphis team went to the Elite Eight in the NCAA Tournament, he was offered what he felt was just a token raise, and he reportedly felt that he deserved more after the season his team had. Meanwhile, a prominent Memphis booster named Rick Spell told The Commercial Appeal, “If it's best for John to go to N.C. State, then that's what I want him to do, though there are a lot of people advising him that's it's not the best business decision for him. But I just want him to make the best decision without emotion involved.”"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it still seems positive for us.

4/11/2006 6:45:12 PM

you think thats what they updated?

where did you quote it from?

4/11/2006 6:49:10 PM

frats are gay

4/11/2006 6:49:44 PM

nice contribution

4/11/2006 6:50:06 PM

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"April is Brass Tacks Month for coaches in college basketball. After wading through the bull of the NCAA Tournament, where coaches posture from podiums nationwide about being in the profession for the right reasons -- for the kids, for the relationships, for the Socratic life lessons they impart to impressionable youth -- we get down to what really matters to some of these guys: Piles of cash, and the pursuit thereof. John Calipari is huffing about the lack of monetary sucking up in Memphis, where he's making only $1 million a year and has a $2.5 million loyalty bonus waiting for him four years down the road. Never mind that Cal could have an even better team next year in Memphis; he's sashayed off to flirt with North Carolina State over its $2 million-a-year job. Was Coach Cal ready to give up some money when his Tigers missed the NCAAs three times in his first five seasons? John Brady of LSU waited about 15 minutes after his team stunk up the Final Four to publicly mewl about his not-lucrative-enough contract. He all but announced himself a coaching free agent if athletic director Skip Bertman doesn't significantly sweeten his $715,000-a-year deal. Now Brady reportedly is slobbering in the wings over the NC State job, just in case Memphis boosters come up with enough cash to revive Calipari's deep dedication to the Tigers. And the boosters are trying hard to do just that, according to Memphis media reports. (If those two guys are richly deserving of a raise, what does UCLA's Ben Howland deserve? His Bruins made Memphis and LSU look offensively inept in back-to-back tournament games. And if Howland deserves more jing, what do you give Florida's Billy Donovan? His own island off the Florida coast?) It should be noted that both Calipari and Brady did great work this season. Through spectacular recruiting and good team chemistry, Calipari built Memphis into a 30-win team and a No. 1 seed in the NCAA Tournament. Brady led LSU to the Southeastern Conference regular-season title, landmark victories over No. 1 seed Duke and No. 2 seed Texas and the school's first Final Four berth in 20 years. It should also be noted that they were being paid just a tad more than the minimum wage. And that they had willingly signed on the dotted line for the compensation they were receiving. Of course, you really cannot blame Calipari and Brady. This is the way the game is played in a sport where agreements are one-way streets in favor of the coaches. Signing a contract and actually honoring the agreement is for chumps. Here are the three basic rules: 1) If you ever have four years or less remaining on your contract, complain loudly that this is hindering your recruiting. How can you convince recruits that you'll be there throughout their college careers if you have fewer than four years on your deal? (Of course, if you have every intention of abandoning that recruit for a higher-paying job at the first opportunity you get, that's something you keep to yourself.) 2) If you're going to be fired or forced to resign, work out the fattest separation agreement you can get -- but try not to let your university build a buyout into your contract if you want to leave. Quin Snyder and Mike Davis recently walked away with plenty of severance pay from Missouri and Indiana, respectively. If Tubby Smith were to walk out on Kentucky tomorrow, he wouldn't owe the school a dime. 3) Expect knee-jerk windfalls after big seasons. Athletic directors -- some of whom rank among the worst businessmen on earth -- cravenly will comply. If they don't, walk away from your contract whenever you can find a better job. Memphis AD R.C. Johnson is taking shots in his town right now for being slow and stingy with Calipari's raise. The guy once nearly doubled Cal's salary after an NIT season, but now he's unreasonable. Calipari has won as many NCAA Tournament games in six seasons at Memphis as Jim Larranaga won last month at George Mason. But Calipari's a hot coach, and a hot coach holds all the cards. Here's the question I'd like to ask Calipari: Did you offer to give back any of that seven-figure annual income after going to the NIT three times in your first five years at Memphis? And this for Brady: Were you agitating for a pay cut last year, after being blown out in the first round of the NCAAs by No. 11 seed UAB? How about the year before, when your team missed the field of 65? Or the year before that, when you lost by 24 in the first round to No. 9 seed Purdue? Of course not. These guys wanted their universities to live up to their monetary agreements, and they did. But now they expect the schools to break those agreements and rework them in their favor. Now that Calipari has established recruiting momentum at Memphis, I have a hard time seeing North Carolina State as a demonstrably better job. At Memphis, Cal can rule his conference and pretty much run his program as he sees fit. He can rake in the best prospects from his talent-rich home base and cherry-pick for need from around the country. He can own the city. At NC State, he'd be working for a constituency that seems to think this Duke-North Carolina thing is just a fad, and that 1974 and '83 happened 15 minutes ago and will reoccur any time. He'd be at the No. 3 program in an area where Nos. 1 and 2 look recession-proof for the next 10 years -- at least. That said, Cal could be the perfect combative personality to take on Mike Krzyzewski and Roy Williams on Tobacco Road. He would embrace the antihero role opposite the occasionally unctuous exemplars of virtue at Duke and North Carolina. It would be great theater. But rolling up your sleeves and spitting in bluebloods' eyes is one thing. Beating them with any regularity is another. Win or lose, the next coach at North Carolina State will be richly rewarded. And if he can put together one breakthrough season in Raleigh, he can agitate to rewrite his contract and earn even more money. That's the way it works during Brass Tacks Month."

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/columns/story?columnist=forde_pat&id=2405333

4/11/2006 6:50:29 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/8614159/detail.html

4/11/2006 6:51:11 PM

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"At NC State, he'd be working for a constituency that seems to think this Duke-North Carolina thing is just a fad, and that 1974 and '83 happened 15 minutes ago and will reoccur any time. He'd be at the No. 3 program in an area where Nos. 1 and 2 look recession-proof for the next 10 years -- at least."

hahaha

4/11/2006 6:52:03 PM

as soon as roy and coach k are gone both of those teams are going down the shitter

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4/11/2006 6:53:35 PM

omfg, frats are gay?

4/11/2006 6:54:15 PM

^^just like when dean left right

OH WAIT

4/11/2006 6:54:42 PM

this thread is worthy of chit chat

4/11/2006 6:56:53 PM

bttt

4/11/2006 6:57:18 PM

is it over yet?

4/11/2006 6:57:58 PM

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"as soon as roy and coach k are gone both of those teams are going the shitter"

ill probably be in my mid 30s when that might happen

but i dont see that happening, considering both of those schools are the most sought after positions in college basketball

4/11/2006 6:58:43 PM

we need an announcement or something

4/11/2006 6:58:45 PM

AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

just get this over with

4/11/2006 7:00:21 PM

supposedly memphis media is reporting that the players are gathering outside cal's house.

meeting to tell them he's leaving?

i think more likely it is the players gathering on their own to ask their coach to stay, and it will work. this is all assuming that the reports of the gathering are true, of course.

4/11/2006 7:02:12 PM

you realize what's going to happen

the NC state fans/alumni are going to scare any good coach away with how stalkerish they're being

4/11/2006 7:03:09 PM

I believe, when talking with Ralph Ciffaretto about the fate of Jackie Junior a couple seasons ago in the Sopranos, Tony Soprano says something to the effect of

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"But more important than the actual decision itself, is that it happens in a timely fashion."

i guess thats tru about brett FARVA too

4/11/2006 7:03:44 PM

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"the NC state fans/alumni are going to scare any good coach away with how stalkerish they're being"

coaches are not like your "girlfriends"

4/11/2006 7:14:26 PM

My humble opinion:

Calipari is riding this for what it's worth. The flight out here with his coaching staff, supposed rift with the AD, ConfUSA being shit.... I think he's riding the media attention for all it's worth, staying on the front page of ESPN / Around the Horn / etc....and loving every second of it.

In the end, he'll use it as publicity and bolt to NC State.


Everyone who knows folks in the program seems to think he's staying. I just get the feeling it's a PR stunt (The waiting game) and this is the opportunity he's been waiting for. Calipari is a salesman... and any press he can get will only help his recruiting. I think State is the much better job, and I think he'll take it. Don't think the money will play a huge role in it, either.


Maybe I'm just crazy

[Edited on April 11, 2006 at 7:16 PM. Reason : ]

4/11/2006 7:15:35 PM

or stupid

4/11/2006 7:16:25 PM

1090 just reported about ten minutes ago that James, the editor of PackPride.com was reporting that Calapari was staying. I don't see that, but I am not premium either.


Looks like we got wolfpacked again...

4/11/2006 7:18:28 PM