i think that suresh's father got to the invisible man and helped him control his power before he died. I think Claires father is someone whom we have not met yet.

1/30/2007 6:41:48 PM

Why would they say "you won't believe who claire's father is" if it's someone we don't know?

1/30/2007 7:35:04 PM

yeah, although that would rule out linderman also because we haven't seen him yet either

1/30/2007 7:46:21 PM

But we know of linderman, and linderman being claire's father would fit with a shocking revelation, that they seem to be trying to portray/

1/30/2007 7:51:11 PM

well we know who it aint....it aint the black guy who goes through the walls, and it aint hiro

1/30/2007 7:58:49 PM

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I thought they said something like "if you thought Claire's mother was shocking.... Wait till you see dad!"

1/30/2007 8:05:50 PM

i have a feeling the haitian will die trying to protect claire...
that will be sad

1/30/2007 8:11:16 PM

well its pretty obvious bennett knows about it, since he seemed to recognize the wind chimes. i'm just wondering what sylar did with him

1/30/2007 8:15:53 PM

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"Heroes Will End In Cliffhanger http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=0&id=39818 Tim Kring, creator of NBC's hit SF series Heroes, told SCI FI Wire that the show's first season will end in a cliffhanger that tees up season two, which was recently given a green light. Kring, speaking in an interview at the recent Television Critics Association winter press tour, added that the first season will resolve the current apocalyptic story arc, in which Hiro Nakamura (Masi Oka) foresees a nuclear detonation in New York. "Yes, absolutely," Kring said. "That will be resolved in the first season." As for the cliffhanger? "It's not necessarily a cliffhanger in terms of what has been set up so far storywise," he added. "It's more of a cliffhanger as to the welfare and well-being of several of our characters. ... Obviously it plays into where we kick off at the [beginning] of season two." Kring also had a few spoilers to offer about the balance of season one, which is currently airing. For one thing, don't expect the villainous Sylar (Zachary Quinto) to go away. "I love Zach Quinto, and I love what he's doing for the show," Kring said. "And the truth is I would like to continue and have him in the second season." There's a reason he's being kept alive by his mysterious captors, he added: "They really want something from him. The organization that Jack Coleman's character [H.R.G.] works for is on some sort of obvious research-oriented, as we call it, tag-and-release program. So there are things that they are gleaning by getting each one of these people. And remember, he is a character who seems to be exhibiting more than one power, which is intriguing to them as to how and why." As for the rumors that one or more of the main characters will not make it to the end of the season, is that a guarantee? "No, I can't say that," Kring said coyly. Heroes airs Mondays at 9 p.m. ET/PT."

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1/30/2007 11:23:56 PM

nice, thorough spoiler alert

1/30/2007 11:33:15 PM

Those are pretty mild spoilers... almost just like plain director's commentary.

1/30/2007 11:38:28 PM

that little kid Mica annoys the fuck out of me. and his character acts like a huge dick. i hope Syler slices his head open, steals his power and puts together a mechanical exo-suit like Krang.

1/31/2007 2:03:25 AM

just another annoying child prodigy

1/31/2007 8:39:26 AM

^ like Hiro (180 IQ)? Did you guys see him on studio 60 (comes on after Heroes), it was a little odd. he was on as himself Masi Oka (the actor playing Hiro) in a fake SNL type show.

1/31/2007 3:19:04 PM

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"i hope Syler slices his head open, steals his power and puts together a mechanical exo-suit like Krang."

Couldn't agree more. I am hating the Mica, D.L., crazy bitch story.

Love Sylar.

Really like this show.

1/31/2007 7:58:43 PM

mica is cool, and ali larter is awsome,
their story is still good and getting better

1/31/2007 9:41:17 PM

No, their story sucks and has since the very beginning. They're not even remotely interesting characters.

1/31/2007 9:47:25 PM

No, their story sucks and has since the very beginning. They're not even remotely interesting characters.

1/31/2007 10:00:20 PM

I think the Micah-Nikki-DL story has overall been sucky so far - but not hopeless. Example: the family squabbling (i.e., DL having trouble cause he can't make a lunch for Micah right) is really weak. But, it looks like Nikki is finally on the path to go somewhere as a hero. I'm going to guess they will do an Incredible Hulk on her and her two personalities will merge so she will strike a balance between being whiny and ruthless, yet have super strength. They've basically set this up with the intro of the psychologist.

What would be neat: If Nikki's multiple personality disorder "ability" were fleshed out such that she could incorporate personalities of individuals who suffered passionate deaths, with each bringing some enhanced supernatural ability. She could incorporate new "people" regularly, melding them into a single amalgamated personality. Might be kinda late to go in this direction though...

1/31/2007 10:51:30 PM

So it's looking like Mr. Bennett doesn't have the power to block out abilities, since it showed Syler piledriving his ass into the wall in the previews. And from how Syler makes it over to his family's house. But I guess there's always a possibility Syler discovered some way to bypass his shit. Either way, I hope Syler kills their little dog.

2/1/2007 12:24:22 AM

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"So it's looking like Mr. Bennett doesn't have the power to block out abilities"

was there ever any discussion that he did have this power? I thought it was pretty clear that it's the black guy that follows him around that blocks powers

2/1/2007 7:34:09 AM

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"Did you guys see him on studio 60 (comes on after Heroes), it was a little odd. he was on as himself Masi Oka (the actor playing Hiro) in a fake SNL type show. "

Or his buddy "Ando" or whatever was on Las Vegas last week singing "Whoomp there it is" in a korean karoake joint.

And I just put together that the invisible man is the villian from Gone in 60 Seconds, Raymond Calitri.

2/1/2007 10:29:11 AM

I said he sounded/looked like Raymond Calitri too! Everyone said i was retarded. They have no imagination to picture him w/o beard and darker hair.

2/1/2007 11:00:31 AM

i had it dvr'd and watched it last night.

i recognized him by the voice alone, then the facial features started making sense.

imdb confirmed.

2/1/2007 11:16:28 AM

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"was there ever any discussion that he did have this power? I thought it was pretty clear that it's the black guy that follows him around that blocks powers"

Not neccessarily, because we really did not know if Bennett had say a special device that blocked their powers and a bit of a coincedence the Haitain was nearby. The only real power we seen from the Haitain is the mind sweep that he does. He just happens to be around when the Cop and others try to use their powers.

But now it looks like he can block the powers now that Bennet looks like he was thrown around like a rag doll.

2/1/2007 11:52:50 AM

Invisible man is played by Christopher Eccleston. He also played the crazy army captain in 28 Days Later and was Doctor Who for a while.

2/1/2007 12:15:05 PM

^^ well I didn't see the clip so I guess I'll just have to take your word for it that Sylar was using powers. but if it was a device that was blocking powers couldn't Mr. Bennet just have not brought one with him because he thought Sylar was dead?

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2/1/2007 1:10:04 PM

it's the haitian that has the power. he used it against sylar to capture him initially (but didn't block out Eden's).

Either the haitian has the power OR he had the power-blocking device that could selectively target someone without being pointed/directed at the individual.

2/1/2007 1:19:30 PM

i think linderman is claire's dad.

you know hes at the center of this somehow...he's popped up too many times to just be some guy.

the pink shirt, rolex etc. thats total vegas baby, thats linderman.

2/1/2007 1:44:21 PM

yea, i dont think hiros dad is linderman

maybe someone under linderman but definately not linderman

2/1/2007 1:55:23 PM

I wonder if Hiro's dad, Mr Sulu, has a power? It seems to run in the families (DL, Nikki, Mica, & Claire, mother, father? also Peter and Brother).

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2/1/2007 2:19:55 PM

wow

that was almost as funny as posting set em up and PAGE X all over this board.

2/1/2007 2:34:24 PM

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"it's the haitian that has the power. he used it against sylar to capture him initially (but didn't block out Eden's)."

it looked to me that, in that scene, Eden sort of puts Syler into a docile daze with her powers of persuasion, while the haitian CLEANS HIM OUT. which would effectively disable his powers since he couldn't remember what he was doing for the last few weeks.

2/1/2007 3:03:12 PM

the Hatian guy has the memory wipe power for sure. and as yet no hero has two powers (Niki has the super-strength but the 2 people thing isn't a power, she's just fucked up). I really don't like the whole idea that the power blocking is comming from a machine, so I'm guessing that someone whom either we haven't met, or just hasn't used a power on-screen will have the blocking power

2/1/2007 3:37:11 PM

It can't be proved either way that Niki does/doesn't have a power that involves having 2 personalities. If I had to guess I would say that she and her sister both had powers and somehow they are now in the same body...seems like the type of thing the writers would try to pull off, as opposed to the oh, she is just a schitzo(no clue how to spell it) explanation.

2/1/2007 4:40:21 PM

if the haitian doesn't have 2 powers, they sure are going out of there way to make it look like he does. i mean when parkman collapsed in the bar, it made a point to zoom in on the haitian staring at him with bennett nowhere in sight.

i still think that he only can block mental powers (telepathy, telekinesis) because he's mastered his own power so well. that explains why nathan was able to fly off like he did

2/1/2007 4:41:16 PM

2^ We did get to see Niki use the power (we she snapped the gaurds baton), which I think is important, before then only Jessica used the power. Your right, making Niki just nuts doesn't really seem like the move they'd, so Jessica must have had a power a-kin to mind transfer

2/1/2007 4:51:34 PM

oh, one more thing about the Haitian that i may have missed (i missed most of the first half of the series so far).
what's with the windchimes? When claire (and the policeman) put them up - do they meet the Haitian in their mind? When claire is talking to him near the old oil plant, is that really the Haitian talking to her in her head, and he was summoned by the windchimes?

on yeah, and Mr. Bennett is going to go ape shit on someone. He saw Claire's wind chimes last week outside her window, so he knows the Haitian has been talking to her now.

2/1/2007 5:01:27 PM

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2/1/2007 6:12:29 PM

I assumed that Jessica took over he body for a split second and used the strength. But heres a thought, maybe it was her sister that had the "going somewhere else with your soul" ability. Which might explain why she was taking all the beatings from daddy as a child. I just dont see Jessica having super strength and then dying from a beating....bc Niki/Jessica can sure dish them out now.


No clue about the windchimes, tho Bennet did get a suspicious look in his eye when he saw them. Interesting theory with the visiting Claire's mind and not physically under the wells. No clue what you are referring to with the policeman and chimes.

2/1/2007 6:19:36 PM

wow, Parkman I guess puts up the windchimes with out even knowing it, because the Hatian did "clean him out," but I like what agentlion is saying about if he gets in your head he can come back (for give the paraphrasing). when you see claire and him under the red I-beams and crap they are in claire's mind

2/1/2007 6:34:20 PM

^ uhh, i doubt it. parkman's memory is gradually coming back from the night of his disappearance. he remembers bennett and the haitian and they haven't done anything yet to "re-erase" him. have we even seen any windchimes besides the ones claire uses to call the haitian?

2/1/2007 6:45:40 PM

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soon after (or maybe immediately after) the scene with Claire and the wind chimes, it went to the cop and his wife talking in the back yard. On the first shot, there were wind chimes, albiet a very different style, in the foreground. but they didn't show him put them up or make any explicit reference to them. I just figured they had to be there for a reason.

2/1/2007 7:42:02 PM

^ you missed the first half?

let me get you caught up, the wind chimes are there to keep syler away, the hatian sell them to special people for a 10% discount. bennet is mad cause he sells them too but clair didnt buy it from him.
the hatian meets up with claire to sell her grease to keep the chimes smooth, thats how he makes the money.

2/1/2007 7:48:19 PM

yeah, i didn't start watching till about episode 8, and i've only caught 1 or 2 of those in reruns. I should just go read up on wikipedia or download them....

anyway - i may be reading too much in to this, or it may be a red herring (or hell, it may just be an artistic photography), but this is the wind chimes thing. I went all ghetto and took pictures of my TV on DVR playback...

this is Claire hanging her windchimes in her room


this shot fades into a shot of the cop's backyard, and briefly both windchimes are visible, and the cop's wind chimes basically take the place of claire's


then it fades all the way to the cop and the wind chimes lose focus.



so, again, it may just be a nice way to frame a shot, but i think they're there for a reason.

2/1/2007 8:13:11 PM

I'm sure its been said.... but for those of you who said you havent seem all of the episodes due to lack of reruns... then go here http://tv-links.co.uk/Heroes_links.html and there you should be able to watch any of the episode you like.... the first season ends with episode 11 but for some reason it includes 12 and 13 which are from season 2

2/1/2007 10:26:57 PM

it's still season 1, 11 episodes does not a season make. it's more like 1-11 are season 1.0 and 11-whatever are 1.5, lots of shows have started to do this for some reason

2/2/2007 6:33:18 PM

The first season was picked up for a 24 show run back in October or something like that. They took a break around the holidays (probably to continue filming, etc) but this is indeed still season 1.

2/2/2007 8:51:49 PM

^^^or you could just go to the nbc website and get them

2/2/2007 9:34:20 PM