aaronburro = irony

and wow i never thought i'd ever agree with a credibility watch thread existing at all, but I think it is a legitimate question to have. 1 good season out of 4 complete seasons, with this still to be determined. We could certainly put it together, but honestly I'd rather have RW this season and roll with Brosius next year. Hopefully Glennon will prove me to be a false terrible douchebag against Tennessee.

10/1/2011 3:58:43 PM

at least let glennon throw the ball. we just had a typical drive that demonstrates TOB's lackluster playcalling at bc and here.

1st down- run with 4th string hb up the middle
2nd down- same thing
3rd down- throw to 3rd string hb
4th down- fg into wind in a situation where nobody else would kick a fg anyway

10/1/2011 4:01:04 PM

-1

10/1/2011 4:03:31 PM

I know that Glennon is not at fault in all this, and he could end up being very good and a NFL quality quarterback....

but RW has been the overriding major reason we've had any success so far in TOB's tenure. Nate gets mad props too, but RW makes plays. All I know is that he is gone now, and we look like this. Maybe we still would have been god fucking awful with RW this year, but I think we would have the ability to score and stay with any opponent. Remember the game @FSU, 45-42? I'd rather lose in a shootout like that than 44-14.

any way, not saying FIRE TOB RAWR RAWR RAWR. just saying that he is probably retiring soon and what is he going to do here? He bought an extra year with Glennon, so is that going to be our big year? What the fuck are we going to do after that with Brosius, and why couldn't we have just tried to go with him next year as well and keep RW?

we better win some fucking games, Debbie Yow seems irrational and loves to stir the pot.

10/1/2011 4:07:16 PM

FIRE TOB RAWR RAWR RAWR

10/1/2011 4:20:24 PM

^^ so, bow down to a player, no matter what, if he is good. fuck the rest of the team. fuck everything else. suck one player's dick if he's good.


oh, and TOB better be feeling some fucking heat right now

10/1/2011 4:24:27 PM

I think the point is we haven't had a single good TEAM under TOB.

The quarterback is by far the most important position on the field and we lucked into one of the best ones in the country for the past three years and still had lackluster results because the surrounding team was awful to mediocre each year.

Now that RW is gone we suck bad. And it's only going to get worse because our recruiting has gotten significantly worse.

Why wait until we're one of the worst teams in the country before we go in a new direction? We'll be on par with Duke soon (if we're not already!)

10/1/2011 4:35:54 PM

^^uh yeah

that happens everywhere man. sports, the corporate world...if an individual is valuable enough, you accomodate him. it's good fucking business.

it's not this bullshit champions in the classroom, community, etc, you wouldn't look like a paragon of virtue, but you would have your most talented player in your organization. I think that's what is important.

i'm done arguing with your trolling ass, you'll come around after this sweet 2-10 season.

10/1/2011 4:36:58 PM

i'm beginning to think that nate irving was way way more important than i gave him credit for.

10/1/2011 4:37:21 PM

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"that happens everywhere man. sports, the corporate world...if an individual is valuable enough, you accomodate him. it's good fucking business."

yep. companies hand over the boss's car to the employee of the month just make sure he stays. yep.
but hey, gotta keep RW, no matter what else happens. Pay that great telephone operator 30million a year, just to keep her! yep! fuck everything else. fuck if he doesn't actually come back ad we are stuck with Brosius. yep, fuck that. gotta bow down and suck wilson's dick and pray he comes back.

[Edited on October 1, 2011 at 4:39 PM. Reason : ]

10/1/2011 4:38:22 PM

letting him play two sports does not equal sucking a players dick

OH NO GLENNON MIGHT TRANSFER so let's change what has been working for two years.

10/1/2011 4:39:53 PM

okay so you are just being a trolling dick and not serious

right we would be sucking RWs dick

[Edited on October 1, 2011 at 4:40 PM. Reason : lol RW = telephone operator.]

10/1/2011 4:39:56 PM

even if we had good players, which we don't, TOB's assistants and game management is the worst i've ever seen on any level. Even BC fans were harsh critics of his game management and play calling. That was a red flag as soon as we hired him.

If only we had a decent AD in place we would have hired a coach like paul johnson or just stuck with amato and been light years ahead of where we are now.

[Edited on October 1, 2011 at 4:42 PM. Reason : don't worry about aaronboru. he doesn't get this whole "life aint fair" thing]

10/1/2011 4:41:22 PM

letting him play two sports FOR THE UNIVERSITY, sure. letting him go work for someone else? not the fucking same. let's not even pretend those are the same god damn thing. go up to your boss tomorrow and let him know you want a couple months off with pay so you can go work for some other company. let me know how that goes.

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"OH NO GLENNON MIGHT TRANSFER so let's change what has been working for two years."

no. glennon might transfer AND RW might get his ass hurt and then we're left with NOTHING for two years. that was the decision.

10/1/2011 4:42:18 PM

Tom O'mato

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"i'm beginning to think that nate irving was way way more important than i gave him credit for."

did anyone really not think nate was to our defense what RW was to our offense? we SUCKED BALLS whenever either of them were out

10/1/2011 4:43:23 PM

my bosses would approve, bitch.

10/1/2011 4:45:14 PM

now i disagree sticking with amato would have been good

there's a reason he isn't working anywhere right now, and it's not cancer

10/1/2011 4:52:05 PM

amato was a bad coach but a great recruiter so we would at least have players to be competitive and relevant.

obrien is a bad coach and a bad recruiter

I'm not saying amato should have stayed, im just saying we would have been better off keeping amato than hiring obrien. Paul johnson was the OBVIOUS hire at the time. Hiring TOB was a real shocker. Especially considering Chuck had just owned him in his worst season.

10/1/2011 4:55:28 PM

Fannies

10/1/2011 4:55:36 PM

shut the fuck up you stupid fucking worthless fucking troll

10/1/2011 4:57:14 PM

Giving up with 13 minutes left.

Not. Credible.

10/1/2011 6:21:55 PM

great call aaronburro!

things are looking up!

10/1/2011 6:29:48 PM

GENGHIS IT'S ABOUT THE LONG TERM

10/1/2011 6:32:07 PM

you guys have some seriously sandy vaginas.

10/1/2011 6:33:55 PM

running the ball 4 times in a row, 4 and out when down 21 (read: giving up in a statement-making way) tends to put sand in my vag.

10/1/2011 6:37:35 PM

if only people were saying RW wasn't as good as MG, you might have a point, GenghisDumbass. oh wait, no one said that. shit

10/1/2011 7:03:19 PM

G. John is one of the few ST poasters that I respect. Doesnt let personal bias get in the way of clear cut analysis

10/1/2011 7:04:38 PM

More like, football injuries credibility watch.

10/1/2011 7:13:10 PM

WTNY

10/1/2011 7:35:08 PM

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"poasters"

10/1/2011 7:45:26 PM

and Taylor Gentry gets injured after lining up at... DT. lol.

10/1/2011 7:48:13 PM

Chuck was at the game today. Sat up in the Dail club for a while. Not sure if anybody else saw him but we spoke to him for a few.

10/1/2011 8:19:17 PM

^ Did he say "miss me yet?"

10/1/2011 8:28:27 PM

Still credible

10/1/2011 9:19:57 PM

not credible

10/1/2011 9:21:15 PM

Team played a TON better today than Wake/Cincy. Have to be pleased with the effort. Didn't quit even after going down 21-0 and 42-21. Play calling on offense sucks, but at least we made some good halftime adjustments to make it a game at times.

10/1/2011 9:48:06 PM

The crediblity of TOB is inversely proportional to the credibility of RW. And it's not looking good for TOB.

10/1/2011 9:55:24 PM

The credibility of O'Brien is directly proportional to the credibility of Wolfpack football. Nothing more. Nothing Less.

10/1/2011 9:57:19 PM

Yeah, it will forever be known as "The Decision" that resulted in TOB being fired after this season (along with an overall crappy team). TOB is like CTC, Rivers left, CTC sucked...RW leaves, TOB sucks.

10/1/2011 9:57:43 PM

for message board sake we have to play the what if game

what if...

chuck was allowed to play with the great qb he finally recruited.

chuck defense + rw =??????what if????

10/1/2011 9:59:09 PM

what if Superman joined forces with Batman?

10/1/2011 10:00:29 PM

Quote :

"for message board sake we have to play the what if game what if... chuck Mike O'Cain was allowed to play with the great qb he finally recruited."

[Edited on October 1, 2011 at 10:06 PM. Reason : dammit I responded to Earl]

10/1/2011 10:05:49 PM

so history tells us to fire TOB so brosius can become a Heisman candidate?

10/1/2011 10:08:35 PM

Regardless of how we all feel about this situation, we all surely realize it is a very delicate one. And what really, really sucks is that it does not matter why we are doing so poorly, or the circumstances of the split between Russell and State.

That Russell didn't have spring practice for two years in a row, that he left to go pursue baseball, that our defense is so bad we probably would be just as shitty even if RW and J5/Owen were still here...it doesn't mean shit.

No one cares why Russell was released (average joe sports fan), the only thing that matters is the perception. He was released by NCSU and this season we are awful. RW, on the other hand, is doing his thing and making cute "Achieving for Dad!" stories between himself and Nick Toon. It's all over ESPN, Russell is awesome.

You guys expect the idiot mass majority to care about details and context, as well as the odd situation Russell and Glennon have been in? TOB probably never expected Russell to start, I'm frankly surprised he didn't turn his golden boy lose and burn his redshirt the moment he stepped on campus. All that is just noise. Russell was "let go", Wisconsin lucked out (sweet sign on gameday, huh?), and wow that Russell Wilson sure is a smooth operator. Meanwhile, his replacement hasn't won a game against an FBS opponent in his short time as starter.

TOB better get this team in shape, or he will take the fall this season, whether its his fault or not. Like it or not, Russell's success in Wisconsin is a definite factor in his job security this season.

I like TOB. Hope he gets everything turned around. His teams do tend to get better after the bye week, so maybe we can get healthy and make some noise.

but this is kinda

10/1/2011 10:29:34 PM

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"what if Superman joined forces with Batman aquaman"

10/1/2011 10:35:41 PM

^^ exactly - everyone is going to see NCSU as letting RW go - nobody cares about the details. we will look like total fools to the rest of the nation and nobody will ever come to nc state and are football team will disband.

10/1/2011 10:46:07 PM

Quote :

"great call aaronburro! things are looking up!"

hahahha

/THREAD

10/1/2011 10:49:00 PM

yeah. because this team sucking due to things OTHER than QB play surely shows me, yes sirree!

Quote :

"Didn't quit"

you must have been getting drinks at the beginning of the 4th quarter, weren't you?

[Edited on October 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM. Reason : ]

10/1/2011 10:51:56 PM

Every announcer I have heard has actually agreed with O'Briens decision, and they all finish their re-telling of the Wilson story by saying O'Brien is a good coach who has a history of winning.


Seriously, we are not being creamed in the national media about this. Maybe Joe Dicksuck at the Murfreesboro Gazzette Blog Incorporation is calling this a botched call, but nobody in the national media is. I've heard Jesse Palmer, Craig James, Kirk Herbstreet, Brent Musburger, and even Mike Patrick all retell the story by saying that O'Brien made the right decision for the future of NC State. So just relax on the national media angle.

10/1/2011 10:53:40 PM

garbage stats

10/1/2011 10:53:49 PM