simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think i've verbalized it, but i've thought about buzz williams and determined that i'd be a okay w/ it. 3/19/2011 10:42:23 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
need moar discussion 3/19/2011 1:26:03 PM |
Tarun almost 11687 Posts user info edit post |
after march madness 3/19/2011 1:27:09 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25463 Posts user info edit post |
James Henderson wrote this on PP Premium...thought it was worth posting
Quote : | " Doing a feature with a few different analysts (I've mentioned it before), and one of those is Greg Swaim, a recruiting analyst who talks with a lot of college coaches.
Anyhow, talked to Greg today and we got into discussing the NC State job and he said the name he's heard A LOT is Sean Miller. He relayed a story to me from last week.
Swaim has his own radio show that can be heard on several stations and online, and he said that last Wednesday (the day after NCSU's job opened) he had on Bob Gottlieb, Doug Gottlieb's father. Apparently Bob is very close to Sean Miller. Greg and Bob were talking about coaching jobs and Bob said matter of factly that Sean Miller is not only interested in NC State, but they are very interested in him.
Gottlieb referenced Miller being an east coast guy and wanting to get back to that part of the country. According to Swaim, Gottlieb gave the impression that it was either going to happen, or very well could happen, Miller leaving for NC State.
Swaim said he got the impression that Gottlieb knew more than he was letting on regarding the situation.
Swaim actually posted on his Twitter account that he thought NC State was the top job available and that Miller would leave Arizona for NC State.
Gottlieb will be back on Swaim's show on Wednesday and Swaim said he's going to ask him again about NC State/Sean Miller.
The other name he heard associated with NC State's opening is Rick Barnes.
Take it for what it's worth. " |
3/19/2011 4:46:44 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
Come on Home again Archie!! [feel free to bring Sean with you] 3/19/2011 4:50:20 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
that is the type of rumor i want to hear. thanks. 3/19/2011 4:56:05 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
if that's legit, then gg 3/19/2011 4:57:17 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Thread on the Arizona scout board, "Delusional NC State Fans"
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=106&f=1668&t=7324831
I think Miller is the only guy I want 3/19/2011 5:08:33 PM |
Chance Suspended 4725 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck PackPride and the fools that eat that shit up. Have they ever been clued in about...anything? I mean yeah, tracking planes and shit, big fucking deal. I've heard so many rumors that I know originated out of PP that I just tune that shit out. Butch Davis was supposedly "fired" after the 4th or 5th game based on a guy that knows some guy in the Rams Club...it was virtually a done deal. That was the most recent "slam dunk" that just wasn't even close. 3/19/2011 5:10:23 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25463 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree with you about some of the past stuff on there...the difference here is that James Henderson is posting it. He's one of the main writers for the website. So he's definitely credible.
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 5:13 PM. Reason : ff] 3/19/2011 5:12:08 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^ right, it may not be true but he didn't just make it up.
or maybe he did, i don't know how hard up they are for subscriptions. 3/19/2011 5:12:49 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I tried to check out the thread on PP, but it's near impossible to make sense of what's going on over there with their stupid-ass embeded quote system. 3/19/2011 5:17:03 PM |
PKSebben All American 1386 Posts user info edit post |
As per any talk of Rick Barnes, Tristan Thompson said he is coming back next year. 3/19/2011 5:29:35 PM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
Millers current AD DID SAY that they had a talk before the tourney began and that Sean was committed to staying with the program.
I mean ... I know that could just be AD <---> COACH speak, but still ... 3/19/2011 5:34:42 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25463 Posts user info edit post |
^ This was the tweet from Zona's AD:
Quote : | " Greg_Byrne Greg Byrne Sean Miller & I have had good talks. He has zero interest in any job openings. We will have no further comment. Let's go beat Memphis!" |
it doesn't say that they talked before the tournament/during the season (unless of course you're talking about a quote from the AD I am unaware of).
ETA: I don't read much into the AD's tweet. It's odd to me that he feels the need to comment on this while his team is in the NCAAT...and if Sean Miller is considering another job while his season is still in progress, why would he tell his AD? On the other hand, I don't read too much into the post from PP either...By all accounts, Barnes and Calipari were interested last time. But they didn't come...so we'll see
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 5:40 PM. Reason : ff]
Saw this on twitter.
Someone asked Doug Gottlieb about the State position...his response was "Sean Miller is rumor--word on st"
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 5:44 PM. Reason : add tweet from Gottlieb show]3/19/2011 5:38:14 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Roy Williams doesn't give a shit about Carolina 3/19/2011 5:48:13 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
That linked thread is damn embarrassing, mainly because of our "fans."
Arizona is a better job than State with no qualifications. Miller has other things in his past that make it a closer comparison than others, so I'm not saying it's impossible. 3/19/2011 5:51:12 PM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I tried to check out the thread on PP, but it's near impossible to make sense of what's going on over there with their stupid-ass embeded quote system." |
Not really. Just use a little common sense.3/19/2011 5:53:44 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I have a feeling we are all gonna get our hopes up but end up with one of the mid major guys 3/19/2011 5:54:41 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25463 Posts user info edit post |
^I'm definitely trying to temper my expectations. I remember the search last time around. However, I think we all agree that we're in better hands this time around. Even if the big names turn us down, Yow will have a backup plan in place. I hope... 3/19/2011 5:57:37 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Not really. Just use a little common sense." |
OH OK DIDN'T THINK OF THAT THANKS3/19/2011 5:58:03 PM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
^^^That's cool. I would be stoked to have Marshall, Few or Mooney.
^You also didn't think to check if your caps lock was on or not.
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 5:59 PM. Reason : fdf] 3/19/2011 5:58:27 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "As per any talk of Rick Barnes, Tristan Thompson said he is coming back next year.
" |
Barnes has other reasons why he might be interested this time around other than the 'from nc' crap. I doubt we'll go this route, though.
Not sure even Thompson returning would have an effect.
Supposedly, his wife has some sort of condition that Duke Hospital offers the best treatment in the US. She's also supposedly been flying to Duke like once a month or a few times a month for treatment. Not sure if it's a curable thing or if this will continue indefinitely, but that's one reason why many feel he's still a legit possibility. You also would wonder if he wouldn't take a year off from coaching if this were true and how involved he'd be with the rigors of Tobacco road.
With that said, I don't think I want someone that takes our job out of necessity. I want someone who wants the job for what it is. I think we'll aim younger too
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM. Reason : ]3/19/2011 6:00:01 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148335 Posts user info edit post |
what are you talking about?
---------------------------------------------- I tried to check out the thread on PP, but it's near impossible to make sense of what's going on over there with their stupid-ass embeded quote system 3/19/2011 6:08:59 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
You've never seen it?
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Quote :Quote : | "I tried to check out the thread on PP, but it's near impossible to make sense of what's going on over there with their stupid-ass embeded quote system" |
| "what are you talking about?" |
3/19/2011 6:24:58 PM |
Walter All American 7739 Posts user info edit post |
3/19/2011 7:03:40 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, guy on SFN is saying an offer has been made to Barnes.
Whatever 3/19/2011 7:07:55 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
god i hope that's not true. 3/19/2011 7:21:48 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25463 Posts user info edit post |
Miller is my #1 of any reasonable candidate...but (and I don't really believe that an offer has been made to Barnes) would we really make the offer before his season was over? I know we would probably contact him, or vice versa, to gauge his interest but wouldn't it be odd to make an offer right now?
FWIW, if Barnes wants to come here then I'd be very happy. 3/19/2011 7:57:21 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe I've missed it...
Can someone explain to me why we think Barnes would be a bad hire? I don't necessarily disagree, I just want the TWW perspective on this. 3/19/2011 8:07:22 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
they think his teams underperform at texas 3/19/2011 8:08:21 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25463 Posts user info edit post |
^^I'm wondering the same thing. I'd take Miller over Barnes if for no other reason than Miller is younger. But Barnes would be a damn good hire. I'd be stoked with him.
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 8:09 PM. Reason : add another ^] 3/19/2011 8:08:37 PM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 8:59 PM. Reason : .]
3/19/2011 8:57:13 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Beggars can't be choosers. I'd welcome most any Top 25 coach with open arms. 3/19/2011 9:13:17 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Dixon is now on the clock. 3/19/2011 9:24:02 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148335 Posts user info edit post |
time to get in touch with Dixon 3/19/2011 9:24:18 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
his players def. look very disciplined 3/19/2011 9:28:05 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck no. He's a choker
Brad Stevens is the way to go
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 9:29 PM. Reason : .] 3/19/2011 9:28:13 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
You guys would swallow your on jizz to get a #1 seed. 3/19/2011 9:30:10 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
is there a banner for that
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 9:34 PM. Reason : srs question, and do people actually put it up] 3/19/2011 9:34:12 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Hahahahahha, anyone who legitimately wouldn't want Dixon as way too an opinion of NCSU. 3/19/2011 9:35:16 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Maybe I've missed it...
Can someone explain to me why we think Barnes would be a bad hire? I don't necessarily disagree, I just want the TWW perspective on this.
" |
The only way Barnes would be a bad hire is if we offered him before Miller.
If Miller even considered coming and we offered Barnes, I'd be incredibly dissapointed. Barnes is a very good coach. Miller is a much younger and equally good/promising coach
FWIW, I am starting to believe we have a legitimate chance with Miller...however small it may be. Thus the offer to Barnes makes absolutely zero sense right now. I highly doubt it's true.
Plus, the guy that posted that on SFN also posts on Packpride...he's never been considered one of those with 'connections' to my knowledge
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 10:01 PM. Reason : ]3/19/2011 9:55:05 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25463 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You guys would swallow your on jizz to get a #1 seed." |
hahaha3/19/2011 9:57:57 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NyM410 J-E-T-S 37075 Posts user info edit post Hahahahahha, anyone who legitimately wouldn't want Dixon as way too an opinion of NCSU.
3/19/2011 9:35:16 PM " |
wut3/19/2011 9:58:23 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I want a proven winner or an up and comer and Dixon is neither. I'd rather be a 7 or 8 seed every year and make the sweet 16 than get a top 3 seed every year and lose in the first two rounds consistently. 3/19/2011 10:01:28 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, Dixon is just a slightly better version of Herb. It would be nice right now to see results like Pitt has, but the best thing for State would be to hire someone who can not only reach the tournament, but regularly make deep runs. Dixon has proven he can't do that.
You should get a job at CBS, nym.
[Edited on March 19, 2011 at 10:03 PM. Reason : I guess I as way too an opinion of NCSU.] 3/19/2011 10:03:13 PM |
PKSebben All American 1386 Posts user info edit post |
ESPN Insider article a couple days ago has Andy Katz saying that he doesn't think we will get any of the big name coaches we are after (Barnes, Miller, Brey, Stallings, Howland, Turgeon) but thinks we will get either Chris Mooney or Gregg Marshall. 3/19/2011 10:06:04 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
On the surface, I wouldn't expect us to get any of those folks either.
Specifically, Barnes and Miller might be doable....not becuase we offer a better job, but for family reasons that you all know about. I wouldn't expect Andy Katz to be in tune with details like that...so he probably does think we're crazy. Hell, we might be 3/19/2011 10:10:52 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Speaking of crazy, not a Gregg Marshall fan 3/19/2011 10:13:21 PM |
PKSebben All American 1386 Posts user info edit post |
Might be? I voluntarily came here over Penn State, Pitt, Georgia Tech, and Villanova. I am definitely crazy. 3/19/2011 10:13:40 PM |