NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Saw that United was scouting Lewandowski.
I always thought they got a raw deal investing all that time and money with him as he rose up through the academy only to leave for Dortmund. It would only be right if he came back home to Manchester like Cesc did at Barca.
[Edited on April 26, 2013 at 11:34 AM. Reason : They are a bit thin up front so it makes sense] 4/26/2013 11:33:17 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
A homegrown strike force of Rooney, Lewandowski, RVP, and Chicharito would be special.
Truly a beacon of morality in this landscape of mercenary championship clubs. 4/26/2013 11:38:15 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Man City - No history and only way they would get players is to pay them out of their ass = Mercenary.
Man United - Players actually want to come here and don't need to lured in with a lucrative contract.
The only reason any of those current City players gave a rats ass about joining city is because they were getting paid ridiculous amounts. City are buying trophies since they don't have any accountability of their spending. United aren't because the money is recycled through the club and earned, not donated by oil tycoons. There is you difference.
United and Arsenal have built their success, city and chelsea have bought it.
[Edited on April 26, 2013 at 11:44 AM. Reason : .] 4/26/2013 11:43:40 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Man United - Players actually want to come here and don't need to lured in with a lucrative contract." |
RVP makes the league minimum, right? He just wanted a trophy and pat on the back and a "job well done, son" from Sir Alex Ferguson. You can't honestly believe that drivel you're rambling on about.
"Only teams that have been good in the past are allowed to be good in the future" is essentially what you're saying. Money is money. Transfer fees are transfer fees. High salaries are high salaries. I don't care where the money comes from and who's paying it. The shit about "City buying a title" vs. "United doing it the right way" is a joke.4/26/2013 11:50:03 AM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
^amen Preach it brother aimorris 4/26/2013 12:00:07 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
2 of the 3 highest wage earners play for United.
Honestly I don't care how much they spend and where they get it from. It's all good by me. But when people act like they are winning titles on small wages and because players "want to come there because of history" I'll call bullshit. 4/26/2013 12:00:24 PM |
Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Most players head to United because of their philosophy I've heard. 4/26/2013 12:05:58 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
RVP turned down a higher paycheck to come to United. Of course he is going to get paid but he is going to worth what he is getting paid. United is spending within their means, no matter how you want to look at it. The success is maintained through a smart transfer policy that involves not overpaying for players. City don't have a wage structure (hell they are still trying to get rid of dead weight on inflated wages) and they don't have a smart transfer policy either. United is winning because it is a well run financial organization, not because of charity. If you don't see the difference between that then you are clearly kidding yourself. Every club in England should aspire to be run like United and Arsenal. Quiet simply, the two clubs do football right. 4/26/2013 12:06:17 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Only teams that have been good in the past are allowed to be good in the future" is essentially what you're saying. Money is money. Transfer fees are transfer fees. High salaries are high salaries. I don't care where the money comes from and who's paying it. The shit about "City buying a title" vs. "United doing it the right way" is a joke." |
You clearly don't understand European football.
UEFA Financial Fair Play Regulations
Quote : | "Fifty per cent of clubs are losing money and this is an increasing trend. We needed to stop this downward spiral. They have spent more than they have earned in the past and haven't paid their debts. We don't want to kill or hurt the clubs; on the contrary, we want to help them in the market. The teams who play in our tournaments have unanimously agreed to our principles…living within your means is the basis of accounting but it hasn't been the basis of football for years now. The owners are asking for rules because they can't implement them themselves - many of them have had it with shovelling money into clubs and the more money you put into clubs, the harder it is to sell at a profit. " |
Clearly the whole of Europe disagrees with you.4/26/2013 2:29:35 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "RVP turned down a higher paycheck to come to United." |
Quote : | "He (Wenger) said: “We live in the economic reality which other clubs do not. There are some things we cannot afford to do.
“How much do you want to pay? 250k? 300k? You say we do not live in a realistic world and then reproach us when we say we will not pay 250k a week.”" |
4/26/2013 3:51:01 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
What in all the fuck, Wigan?
[Edited on April 27, 2013 at 10:10 AM. Reason : lol, and they tie it straight away. pathetic let up on Bale's goal though. Worst I've ever seen?] 4/27/2013 10:09:29 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Spurs got all that luck today.
Still desperately need all three.
[Edited on April 27, 2013 at 11:54 AM. Reason : phew. great result for Arsenal.] 4/27/2013 11:49:13 AM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
This is worse than being an NC State fan. 4/27/2013 11:56:43 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
does Newcastle have a chance at a win or draw today? They're 17 (wins + draws) and 17 losses on the year, Pool is 13 wins and 21 (draws + losses) but the +/- goal differential between the teams is 37, heavily favoring Liverpool
match is at St. James
[Edited on April 27, 2013 at 12:17 PM. Reason : .] 4/27/2013 12:16:56 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^
Shoot would know 4/27/2013 12:21:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
this is important, i have a match streak for the cash pick to make 4/27/2013 12:25:23 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Newcastle at home, and if Suarez is out, then the Magpies are favorites. 4/27/2013 12:31:58 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
fuck they already scored 4/27/2013 12:34:52 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
4/27/2013 12:36:45 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
i already got lucky as hell earlier in the West Ham - Man City prop...picked West Ham for "win, draw or lose by 1"...down 2-0, scored at the 90 minutes +4 mark 4/27/2013 12:37:35 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
rape 4/27/2013 2:22:55 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "picked West Ham for "win, draw or lose by 1"" |
isnt it simpler to just say you picked west ham +2?4/27/2013 4:02:08 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
more like +1.5 i suppose 4/27/2013 4:10:01 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
This Reading/QPR slapfight is brutal to watch 4/28/2013 10:11:18 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
4/28/2013 10:43:47 AM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
Good job 'Arry 4/28/2013 10:58:11 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Boooooooooooooooooo
Offside, but I'll take it.
[Edited on April 28, 2013 at 11:04 AM. Reason : x] 4/28/2013 11:00:33 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
offside 4/28/2013 11:03:20 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Sagna is brainless.
[Edited on April 28, 2013 at 11:50 AM. Reason : dominant first half really, but one horrible mistake] 4/28/2013 11:43:00 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
No red cards and no penalties conceded this season for United
[Edited on April 28, 2013 at 11:55 AM. Reason : .] 4/28/2013 11:55:12 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
lol @ Sagna 4/28/2013 12:11:47 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
lol at him getting away with that tackle 4/28/2013 12:21:32 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Match ratings:
Macarony La Sagna: 0.25
[Edited on April 28, 2013 at 12:51 PM. Reason : misspelled] 4/28/2013 12:49:17 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Great game 4/28/2013 12:53:56 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Meh. Should have won.
Win the last three and top four is guaranteed. 4/28/2013 12:56:26 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
You have to have people who are going to score to win. Aside from Walcott's offside goal, Arse never looked like scoring. Casual balls in, terrible decision making, tons of possession. Typical Arsenal shit. 4/28/2013 12:57:49 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
^ 4/28/2013 1:04:28 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
we agree on something?
4/28/2013 1:11:03 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Ha, that's about as poorly you'll see United ever play, and of course Arsenal doesn't take advantage. No matter how hard I try not to, I always find myself pulling against them. Too bad Spurs blew it. 4/28/2013 1:11:43 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't say they DESERVED to win but they should have.
Also didn't realize Chelsea plays at United and home to Spurs next two games.
[Edited on April 28, 2013 at 1:23 PM. Reason : ^ should have bc of this] 4/28/2013 1:22:23 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
A great rivalry has fizzled out man
Barthez punked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyAYSm4Ud8o
"Wiltoooooord"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPvwkn1VkjA
Giggsy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3bWrF_GkbQ 4/28/2013 1:29:15 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Arsenal just needs to start spending some money. Their transfer policy is admirable but they can afford to go out and get a 25-30 million player every 2 years. They were the best title rivals in the modern era. The United and Arsenal teams at the turn of the century were fantastic. Viera, Keano, Giggsy, Wiltord, Bergkamp, Beckham, Pires, Henry, Yorke, Sheringham. God those were some great years. 4/28/2013 1:56:17 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Bale did the double tonight
POTY (again) YPOTY
[Edited on April 28, 2013 at 6:42 PM. Reason : COYS] 4/28/2013 6:38:32 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
RVP and Suarez both had a better year. Ridiculous. Also the YPOTY award is a joke. The FA needs to lower the age limit to 21 and under. Bale is 23 ffs. 4/28/2013 7:07:48 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
I guess we'll see how good he really is next year when he's off to Madrid
^ If anything, the polling should be done after the season is over - Bale won it 2 years ago on account of his UCL performances and nothing else. This yeah he wins it off the back of what, i don't know. He had a tremendous year compared to his previous ones, but compared to RvP and Suarez, it just doesn't make sense.
Meanwhile RvP won it last year for single handedly keeping Arsenal relevant - whereas this year he almost single handedly won United the title. A bigger achievement somehow isn't worthy of back to back? Doesn't make sense.
[Edited on April 28, 2013 at 7:17 PM. Reason : .] 4/28/2013 7:07:57 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Butthurt beacons of morality ITT 4/28/2013 7:13:43 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Not really. RVP is top scorer and Suarez is second. Bale isn't consistent and has been hot for about 2 or 3 months. He deserves YPOTY but that age limit should be mended. Whereas RVP had a drought of 1 month and has been consistently good. 4/28/2013 7:15:50 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
EPL stats
Bale 30 games 19 goals and 4 assists from 141 Shots (63 on goal) RVP 31 games 25 goals and 8 assists from 128 Shots (59 on goal)
[Edited on April 28, 2013 at 7:21 PM. Reason : .] 4/28/2013 7:19:19 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Bale was the most valuable player to his team and it really isn't close. No issues here.
Would have had no issues if RvP won again either.
[Edited on April 28, 2013 at 8:02 PM. Reason : X] 4/28/2013 8:01:55 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
If Suarez isn't who he is, he wins in a landslide. And I'm not saying it's unfair it's that way either. Just saying that's how it is.
RVP should have won. I never thought United would have to count on him as much as they did and he completely validated Ferguson's faith and the massive money they dropped for him. We'll see how he looks in year 4 of that deal but for the first, he certainly lived up to everything asked and expected of him. 4/28/2013 8:09:16 PM |