Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
I'm ordering mine today from here:
http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/index.html
Restricted has one from there, and loves it (it is supposed to be very comfortable as well as functional)
I'm also gonna get a standard IWB black canvas one for my revolver whenever I get around to picking that up
if I were to go hiking or something like that and I wanted to have one with me, I'd probably invest in a thigh holster, just cause I don't like have shit around my waist when doing stuff like that 1/2/2009 9:32:57 AM |
wheelmanca19 All American 3735 Posts user info edit post |
I want to get one of those ^ for my XD.
I currently am using a "Hidden Companion IWB" from http://www.grandfatheroak.com for my Bersa. 1/2/2009 8:57:12 PM |
Nitrocloud Arranging the blocks 3072 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""As a general rule, I only carry on my family's property when I go out shooting; I haven't open carried anywhere."
Why? I open carry most places now." |
Still being in school cramps my options there, and my co-op with a municipality meant that I couldn't have my revolver in my vehicle then too.
Although it would be good to have a gun with that city... Working in one substation, we heard a fuse blow down the street (sounds like a shotgun blast), the breaker rolled, and the transformer groaned. A couple minutes later we heard another pop, but curiously the transformer didn't hiccup at all... somebody shot a pistol about 2 blocks from that station in midday.
The Grandfather oak holsters look good, but I think I'd like the security of a thumb snap over the hammer. It'd be my luck to catch what's exposed of the trigger on a nail in a chair and pull a Barney Fife. Because of the inability to carry in 90% of my day-to-day life mentioned above, I haven't worried with a CCW permit and would only be able to open carry.1/2/2009 9:33:21 PM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
Generally, any good Kydex holster like those above will have good retention. Leather holsters will have something to secure it with like a thumb break, but that requires one more step to present the weapon and is something I'd rather not deal with, personally.
You probably shouldn't be worried about catching the hammer spur on anything either - the weight of the pull on most is such that you'll know it if you get it hung up good enough to cock it, and if you're using any normal holster, that's not going to cause a problem anyway. Lots of people, I'd even venture to say most CCW'ers, carry cocked and loaded anyway, so it's not an inherently dangerous thing to do.
If you want a good, everyday, OWB retention rig, take a look at the Blackhawk Serpa. No thumb breaks like most leather holsters, so it simplifies drawing, but still retains the gun under any other circumstances. It's released by a normal drawing motion, with the trigger finger pressing a release on the side of the holster. 1/3/2009 9:09:56 AM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
Hey, my grandfather died and he had a bunch of antique guns that my grandmother is giving away. They're located in Florida and I was just wondering about the legalities of transporting them, and keeping them in SC. They're mostly black powder guns, and non-functional as far as I know. What should I do when driving? keep them out in the open? looks like I don't need a permit to own a shotgun or rifle in SC. thanks! ] 1/3/2009 5:09:38 PM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
handguns are one thing- long guns are another
if you have a trunk, i'd say just throw them in there, and keep them unloaded just to be safe
i really don't think you'd have a problem with them 1/3/2009 5:40:51 PM |
Nitrocloud Arranging the blocks 3072 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Generally, any good Kydex holster like those above will have good retention. Leather holsters will have something to secure it with like a thumb break, but that requires one more step to present the weapon and is something I'd rather not deal with, personally.
You probably shouldn't be worried about catching the hammer spur on anything either - the weight of the pull on most is such that you'll know it if you get it hung up good enough to cock it, and if you're using any normal holster, that's not going to cause a problem anyway. Lots of people, I'd even venture to say most CCW'ers, carry cocked and loaded anyway, so it's not an inherently dangerous thing to do.
If you want a good, everyday, OWB retention rig, take a look at the Blackhawk Serpa. No thumb breaks like most leather holsters, so it simplifies drawing, but still retains the gun under any other circumstances. It's released by a normal drawing motion, with the trigger finger pressing a release on the side of the holster." |
Those Blackhawks look nice, but seem more oriented to the semi-autos of today. A long-barreled revolver doesn't seem to have many kydex holsters available. However, I haven't noticed a delay of presentation with a thumbsnap because I'm reaching for the hammer spur and break the snap and draw the hammer in motion for presentation. Without a good two-handed grip, followup shots are much longer than getting a good grip for the first shot.
I haven't practiced much for an encounter anyhow, mostly target shooting for fun.1/3/2009 8:00:48 PM |
Ds97Z All American 1687 Posts user info edit post |
On another subject, the Ruger LCP I've had on order for over 4 months finally came in just before Christmas. It's a post-recall example that has the diamond in the hammer notch.
Got a chance to pick up a few boxes of various brands of ammo and subsequently put it through it's paces on New Years day. Function was flawless with several different weights/styles/brands of bullets. I didn't shoot it off a rest for groups or anything of the like, as this is no target pistol, but practical accuracy from 10 yards was more than acceptable. Firing from a one-handed grip, 6-shot strings went into 5 inches or less without really trying hard, taking no more than 1 second to squeeze off each round with the heavy DAO trigger. Recoil was snappy as should be expected in such a small pocket piece, but not painful in the least and entirely manageable.
Not a bad showing in my book and mine now accompanies me daily in a Wild Bill's concealment holster; releiving me of the weight, clothing restrictions, and other difficulties associated with carrying my G23 regularly.
[Edited on January 3, 2009 at 10:25 PM. Reason : /] 1/3/2009 10:19:54 PM |
Stonerman All American 672 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone know of a deal on an M4 upper? I've got a DoubleStar lower and need a decently priced, excellent reviewed M4 upper...
Looked here so far...: http://www.del-ton.com/Custom_Upper_p/cu101.htm
Haven't read many reviews on it though. What are y'alls thoughts on this? Ever heard of del-ton? 1/4/2009 3:25:23 AM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Hey, my grandfather died and he had a bunch of antique guns that my grandmother is giving away. They're located in Florida and I was just wondering about the legalities of transporting them, and keeping them in SC. They're mostly black powder guns, and non-functional as far as I know. What should I do when driving? keep them out in the open? looks like I don't need a permit to own a shotgun or rifle in SC. thanks!" |
Posession If it is a black powder gun, that is, it does not use metallic cartridges, then it is considered a non-firearm legally, and can be legally taken by anyone. This includes black powder "cap and ball" pistols, but not a pistol that uses modern cartridges.
If it is a rifle or shotgun of any kind, you can legally take possession of it and bring it back. Modern handguns (generally, those using metallic cartridges) are supposed to be transferred through an FFL (gun dealer). In a case like this, I wouldn't hassle with that, but it's a matter of how strongly you feel about following laws. If in doubt, do it the hard way, just to hang onto them.
Basically, anything black powder, or a modern rifle or shotgun is g2g. Any modern pistol is supposed to be transferred through a dealer in your state, which means paying a dealer in FL to ship them there, transfer fee on each, and a pistol permit from the sheriff for each one. The permit is just a piece of paper you get that says the sheriff has certified you to legally receive a pistol. You just give it to whoever you're receiving it from.
If it were me, I'd put em in the back of a truck and haul em back to SC. Provided there is nothing legally prohibiting you from owning a gun, there's no reason you can't just take them home and enjoy them.
Transport Basically, transport should be unloaded, in boxes or cases, in an area of the vehicle not readily accessible. Pretty simple. Keep them boxed and put away, preferably in a trunk or similar compartment.
[Edited on January 4, 2009 at 10:03 AM. Reason : .]1/4/2009 9:53:28 AM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Anyone know of a deal on an M4 upper? I've got a DoubleStar lower and need a decently priced, excellent reviewed M4 upper...
Looked here so far...: http://www.del-ton.com/Custom_Upper_p/cu101.htm
Haven't read many reviews on it though. What are y'alls thoughts on this? Ever heard of del-ton?" |
Good luck getting an upper within any reasonable amount of time, but if you want to get on back order with Del-ton, they make good quality stuff and will stand behind it.1/4/2009 10:01:49 AM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
Del-Tons backorder status is closer to the 16 weeks than the 8 weeks.
They are currently processing orders in the 222xx and 223xx range. Mine was placed on 11/22 and was in the 249xx range. Its probably going to ship early February.
Their order system is almost up to 30,000 currently, so they are about 7000 orders behind. They claim to be processing 30-100 orders a day depending on the complexity of the order.
Ive heard other places quoting summer/fall 2009 for thier order deliveries.
[Edited on January 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM. Reason : .] 1/4/2009 4:41:24 PM |
Stonerman All American 672 Posts user info edit post |
Any other places you guys know of? I do know im late on this train, but i'm getting desperate as the Obamanation is just around the corner.. 1/4/2009 9:21:10 PM |
ewstephe All American 1382 Posts user info edit post |
Del-ton is the best bet, they haven't jacked up the prices despite the staggering demand. Just gotta get in line. Spikes Tactical is on vacation til it calms down, they couldn't get enough stuff to have any sort of reasonable wait time. 1/4/2009 10:22:52 PM |
mcaflo All American 1429 Posts user info edit post |
here's a guy selling a del-ton upper on Ar15.com for $600. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=22&t=626725 1/5/2009 2:23:03 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
My mom just got her CCP (though she doesn't know ANYTHING about guns). She wants a compact handgun, but she's dead-set on having something with a manual safety. That pretty much rules out most everything I would've suggested. While I'm a 1911 shooter myself, I don't think that's the best choice for her, for several reasons.
I've never shot any of these, but I suggested either an XD-9, a USP, or a Bersa Thunder. Any comments on those? Any other suggestions? 1/5/2009 2:32:31 AM |
FykalJpn All American 17209 Posts user info edit post |
what about a ppk or a pps? 1/5/2009 5:34:21 AM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
dont sigs have a manual safety?
I would check out CZ's as well 1/5/2009 7:08:32 AM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
^ Only on the SAO version. Most Sigs do not.
^^^ there is a .45 M&P option with a manual safety. 1/5/2009 7:30:15 AM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^Berretta actually makes a good compact that is easy to rack and has a reasonable trigger pull...
my sister liked my taurus, but couldn't get the slide release with one hand (it is a little stiff), and she has a lot of trouble racking the Glock. The beretta, on the other hand, works perfectly for her 1/5/2009 8:35:40 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
You mean she couldn't pull the slide back on a Glock? 1/5/2009 8:36:48 AM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
she had trouble with it, yes
i think the beretta she fired was the px4 storm- they feel small in my hand, but they fit perfectly in her little hands
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=119879726
like that one
[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 8:49 AM. Reason : type F] 1/5/2009 8:46:01 AM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm getting desperate as the Obamanation is just around the corner" |
Don't get in a rush, because all you're going to do is pay too much. If anything, prices will come down pretty soon as people realize the Democrats have much more politically safe and necessary things to do than pass an AWB. Don't buy into the hype unless you've just got money burning a hole in your pocket.1/5/2009 10:24:31 AM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Have you considered revolvers? They require very little effort to learn and use and that's always better for someone that's not gun-savvy. My girlfriend carries a .38 simply because she wouldn't know a rip from a rack if here life depended on it, and it will do the job every bit as well as my 9mm. 1/5/2009 10:28:18 AM |
Fumbler All American 4670 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My mom just got her CCP (though she doesn't know ANYTHING about guns). She wants a compact handgun, but she's dead-set on having something with a manual safety. That pretty much rules out most everything I would've suggested. While I'm a 1911 shooter myself, I don't think that's the best choice for her, for several reasons.
I've never shot any of these, but I suggested either an XD-9, a USP, or a Bersa Thunder. Any comments on those? Any other suggestions?" |
Either would do well, but the XD, and especially the USP, have large grips and may not fit. If she wants the piece of mind of a manual safety then the Bersa Thunder 380 would be a good pick. The Thunder 380 fits small hands very well. The safety can be a tiny bit confusing. Putting it on safe take a little bit of force because it also decocks the gun. It is a DA/SA. Also, the slide can be racked with safety on and (with the safety on) it won't go fully into battery unless you let it slam hard or slap the back of the slide. One other thing is if she's not decently strong then it can be a little difficult to rack the slide (it's direct blowback operated). It'd take about the same force to rack a Thunder 380 as a Glock. As suggested, a PPK/S or Sig 232 would also be good choices...but if you were considering those I'd just save the money and buy the Bersa.
Quote : | "^^^ Have you considered revolvers? They require very little effort to learn and use and that's always better for someone that's not gun-savvy. My girlfriend carries a .38 simply because she wouldn't know a rip from a rack if here life depended on it, and it will do the job every bit as well as my 9mm." |
Revolvers are great choices for someone who is inexperienced or wants the added comfort of a manual safety. The only problem is if the shooter has trouble racking a slide then they'll likely have trouble with a heavy DA pull.1/5/2009 11:21:48 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
I cannot even comprehend how even a woman could have trouble with racking a slide or a DA trigger pull. I don't know how you'd accomplish day-to-day tasks with that little hand strength!
I like the P232 a lot for that type of pistol. I'm VERY accurate with it (for a subcompact), and I'm partial to SIGs anyway...but Mom is set on a manual safety.
I told her to try a revolver out, and if she liked it, I wouldn't try to talk her out of it, but that I don't like them and don't see the point in them. Plus, I've never seen a revolver with a manual safety. I guess they exist, but I'm not aware of any.
The more I think about it, the little Bersa would probably be just the ticket for her, and she really doesn't have the money to afford the other stuff, anyway. 1/5/2009 11:40:48 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I would go with a P232 over any PPK. I've got an older PPK in .32 and any novice shooter who fires it ends up tearing off chunks of their thumb with the slide. 1/5/2009 11:55:12 AM |
Fumbler All American 4670 Posts user info edit post |
You'd be surprised how little hand strength many women have.
Bersa Thunder 380 ftw! I've convinced you cannot buy a better quality gun for $230 new. BTW it can be uncomfortable for some people to shoot for extended periods because the back of the frame is narrow and the direct blowback transfers all the energy to the web of your hand. Of course, this gun wasn't designed to be a range gun. 1/5/2009 11:58:19 AM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
Ignoring the bit about a manual safety (which I think you should tell her to get over) I'd recommend the Kel-tec PF-9 over pretty much all the options offered so far.
http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/pf9.htm
It's smaller and lighter than the Bersa Thunder in every category and is a very solid budget carry piece, not to mention it fires 9mm luger over .380
I've never had any problems with mine, except again she might have to work on her slide strength and put a few hundred rounds through it to loosen things up a bit.
Ignore the MSRP, you can find it in the mid to upper $200s most places. 1/5/2009 12:11:40 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I told her to get over the manual safety thing, but she's completely stuck on it. She has very little experience with firearms (and probably none at all in the last 20 years, except for her CCP course with a .22), so she doesn't understand that it isn't a big deal...but she's totally set on having a manual safety BECAUSE of her inexperience and lack of knowledge about guns.
The Bersa seems like the best thing available given all of the constraints. 1/5/2009 12:38:01 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
what about the Bersa Mini-Thunder 9? I wasn't familier with any of their stuff besides the original Thunder .380, and it looks like this Mini 9 is functionally based on their larger models...how does it compare with the regular .380 Thunder in terms of both size and cost (i.e., is the extra power worth any penalty there might be in cost or size)? 1/5/2009 1:26:53 PM |
kylekatern All American 3291 Posts user info edit post |
if you can get her to handle a KelTec PF9 of P11, she will no longer be looking for a manual safety after 4-5 pulls of that trigger. DAO means you CANNOT pull it unless you REALLY REALLY mean to do so. 1/5/2009 1:27:06 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
You are preaching to the choir (although I prefer DA/SA), but she doesn't even seem receptive to the idea, although her cousin (a former USMC infantry sergeant turned full-fledged zombie-hunting wearer of the tin-foil hat, although I must say a really good dude) is going to take her out shooting with various selections of his arsenal to let her get a feel for what she likes before she buys anything. 1/5/2009 2:16:26 PM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
^^That was kind of my point with the revolver. It's stupid-simple to operate, and you're not going to set it off by accident, only by negligence, which no safety will protect against. 1/5/2009 5:40:25 PM |
wheelmanca19 All American 3735 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Thunder 380 fits small hands very well." |
It fits good in bigger hands too. Price was right, plenty accurate for its purposes.1/5/2009 8:50:31 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Buying my first pistol soon.
Are there any downsides to the Springfield XD9 that I should be aware of?
I shot a Glock 19, Sig 229, and the XD, and preferred the XD by a wide margin.
Does anyone have an opinion on the CZ-75B? 1/5/2009 9:28:23 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^I just bought an XD40. I love it. I shot a few 9's, 1911, 38 special, .22's, and a few others. I was most comfortable with the .40's and the XD was the best overall.
I haven't had any problems with mine, though you should look online at user reviews, etc. There was some talk about the .40 having accidental slide release issues, but I put mine through the same things others were talking about and didn't experience any issues. However, that discussion was somewhat dated and I believe Springfield re-engineered the XD's since.
Are you going for the XD or XDM? IMHO/FWIW, I didn't think the M-series were worth the money. 1/5/2009 9:34:05 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
girlfriend just got her handgun permit and plans to get her ccw this summer.
what semi-auto should she get?
[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:20 PM. Reason : she has tiny hands] 1/5/2009 11:19:08 PM |
dave421 All American 1391 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ nothing if you're looking at buying a new one. If you're looking used the the early models did not have the melonite finish and so can rust if you don't take care of it (you really have to neglect it). Great guns. I've had several of them now in different models & the XD is probably my favorite polymer pistol.
^^ never heard of that before as being a "problem" but sounds like nothing more than a worn slide stop lever. It's not really an issue & can be fixed quickly, easily, & cheaply. Also, Springfield has not done ANY engineering on the XD. They just import it from HS Arms of Croatia where they are sold as the HS2000 (not trying to nit pick, just letting you know). 1/5/2009 11:48:56 PM |
Seotaji All American 34244 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what semi-auto should she get?" |
does size/weight matter?
Quote : | "but she doesn't even seem receptive to the idea, " |
i know it's your mom and she's gonna do whatever she wants, but what does she plan on doing with it? use it as a paperweight? i doubt she will train enough to automatically disengage the safety if she ever needs to use it. i just saw some robbery footage where the store owner draws faster, but doesn't realize that the safety is on till he has a couple of holes in him. if you need that footage as an example of poor training, i'll try to find it.1/6/2009 1:08:57 AM |
MaximaDrvr
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To anyone who knows anyone who has problems racking the slide on any firearm, tell them this: Don't think about the action as sliding back the slide. Think of it as holding the slide still and pushing the grip foreward. This should solve anyone's problems. 1/6/2009 1:11:23 AM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
just picked up my CCP today... holster won't be in for a while, but at least i can carry in my car locked and loaded till it gets here 1/6/2009 1:41:24 PM |
kylekatern All American 3291 Posts user info edit post |
I will note that only 2 of my guns have a a 'safety', and another only has a de-cock button for DA with round in chamber carry. Other than when using the P-1 safety to de-cock the gun, I NEVER have used the manual safety's. Trigger or grip/frame safety? fine. 1/6/2009 4:36:39 PM |
P Nis All American 2614 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Don't get in a rush, because all you're going to do is pay too much. If anything, prices will come down pretty soon as people realize the Democrats have much more politically safe and necessary things to do than pass an AWB. Don't buy into the hype unless you've just got money burning a hole in your pocket.
" |
Exactly. We are on the bring of an economic collapse, I seriously doubt the Dems are gonna move on this before the real problems. Sucks though because I was in the market for a nice AR but im just gonna wait it out1/6/2009 4:57:43 PM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
my stuff for my shotgun arrived today
tac-light was easy to get on, but this folding stock is a pain in the ass
anyone ever install one of these? have any tricks? It just seems like the screws they included won't fit... and the sling receiver that is supposed to go on the grip won't install into the handle (I will have to drill it... I don't know why they didn't just put it in there to begin with) 1/6/2009 5:44:55 PM |
Stonerman All American 672 Posts user info edit post |
I'd really like to hear from more folks, but I am likely to agree with y'all about the economic collapse and prices getting ready to fall... I would like to think that at any rate. But given Obama's history on gun control and his involvement with the Joyce Foundation really has me worried. I think that the $538 I can spend on an M4 AR upper from del-ton isn't that bad of a price to begin with. What is the general consensus on that?
My other concern is the fact that if I don't get it ordered prior to the inauguration, can he propose some kind of legislation that would make anything ordered after his swearing in be "illegal"? What about things acquired and "in hand" after his swearing in? I guess he could do just about anything with Reid, Pilosi and Fienstein as company, but I'm just trying to get a handle on the urgency..
At this point I don't think anyone really knows how important gun control will be to him... Especially now that he's gotten an ear full of what has aged W. so fast. Again... Hoping Obama realizes that he definitely has bigger fish to fry. But I digress... sorry for the long windedness.. 1/6/2009 9:42:36 PM |
Stonerman All American 672 Posts user info edit post |
Oh.. Just want to bring this to everyone's attention that reads this thread... Just got this email.
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Under Whitley's proposal, you would have to obtain a permit from the local sheriff before buying ammunition, in the same vein of pistol purchase permits. It would also establish, "forbidden persons" who would not be permitted to buy ammunition.
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Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
anyone do any machining work?
I have a piece of metal that I need a slightly larger than current hole drilled. It is designed to have the screw being used to be inset into the metal piece, but the way that everything is lining up, it doesn't fit right
I just need someone to lend me a metal cutting bit (it will need to be pretty big- about 3/8) or if someone has a press drill with the right bit and feels like helping a brother out, I will buy ya a beer
this is for the new stock for my shotgun, btw 1/6/2009 11:47:24 PM |
P Nis All American 2614 Posts user info edit post |
^^I wouldn't waste the money now. Guns arent going anywhere. All this hype is the NRA and other nuts trying get more members.
besides..even if Obama was as anti-gun as they say he is, what makes you think he isn't gonna snatch em up no matter when you bought them.
Another 6-7 months and that Bushmaster will be mine for 800.00 again
[Edited on January 7, 2009 at 12:38 AM. Reason : 1] 1/7/2009 12:38:09 AM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Depends on who you ask. I've heard some rumblings saying that they might go after an AWB. The Republican Party is as disorganized as it will ever be during his administration, conservative Democrats are not going to be inclined to put up a hard fight against the new administration, and they're not yet stalled by the economy issue which is likely to drag them down at least during the first year.
Michael Bane commented on this in his blog, though I have always felt that he knows a lot more about guns than he does about politics. FWIW. 1/7/2009 7:47:39 AM |