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sumfoo1
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Not an officer but since my agency own's the sheriff's cars.

AWD Chargers are the newest round of purchases we have made.
with have Pursuit edition Taurus's (think taurus SHO with police lights, interior and steel wheels) which seem to be the most forgiving to drive like a race car. The caprice is a good all around car that i feel handles better than the charger and is more fun then the taurus to drive. The PPV Tahoes are a favorite and feel "unrollable" for an SUV and have way more interior space than the rest.

I can't speak to reliability much as we sell our cars at 100,000 miles before any major issues happen.

8/25/2015 7:39:24 AM

dtownral
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we sell vehicles at 100k miles? that seems wasteful

8/26/2015 2:25:12 PM

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It's not the miles, it's the hours the accumulate.

8/26/2015 9:05:27 PM

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Man, it's been 8 weeks since since I've been on regular duty. Who has questions?

10/2/2015 3:29:27 PM

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^^^ hell, my office takes away vehicles at anywhere between 30-60k

In the year and a half that I've been in my current assignment I've been assigned more cars than a drug dealer: focus, impala, explorer x2, charger, and as of last week, a Chrysler 200. It's a pos but I'm glad to be back in a car that doesn't scream 'police'.

10/2/2015 10:58:33 PM

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Fuck the police

11/27/2015 8:57:19 PM

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Somebody get fired??

11/27/2015 9:11:06 PM

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Nah.

11/28/2015 8:52:48 AM

thegoodlife3
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2016/02/18/miami-cops-vow-security-boycott-beyonce-concert-april/80571878/

would you say that these officers represent a vocal minority or a majority of police around the country?

because this shit is absurd

2/18/2016 9:13:56 PM

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i don't blame them, cops have been getting a lot of crap lately

i wouldn't want to sign up for an off duty shift to protect someone who makes a video asking me not to shoot them, like i would shoot them otherwise

2/18/2016 10:20:00 PM

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"The FOP really doesn't do its cause justice by being unable to differentiate between legitimate grievances against the police system and "blacks hate cops"

2/18/2016 11:08:44 PM

thegoodlife3
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^^ I still can't tell if you're really that ignorant or just playing a role

2/18/2016 11:11:09 PM

wdprice3
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THAT THERE COLORED GIRL SANG IN A SONG "DON'T SHOOT ME". LET'S BOYCOTT HER! YEAH!

2/19/2016 8:56:13 AM

jtdenny
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if playing a role is common sense

2/19/2016 5:29:35 PM

TreeTwista10
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I boycott the Fraternal Order of Police whenever one of their paid telemarketers calls me for money.

2/19/2016 5:53:29 PM

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I know a guy that received a ticket that says "unlawfully and willfully at a speed in excess of 70mph in a 70mph zone".

2/19/2016 9:32:04 PM

thegoodlife3
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"if playing a role is common sense"


there is no sense in your logic, common or otherwise

2/20/2016 12:34:18 PM

saps852
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just reading over the lyrics of the song its a bunch of jibberish, are the police mad that she has hot sauce? I don't get it

2/20/2016 1:02:37 PM

MrGreen
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why are cops so fucking sensitive

they're like grown ass babies

2/20/2016 1:50:32 PM

jtdenny
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it's not a stretch to link "stop shooting us" to the cops in riot gear in her video

in whatever line of work you happen to be in, if someone pisses you off for any reason at all, i seriously doubt you will be first in line to sign up for overtime to work for that same person. if you do, then good for you, but if you don't then i would understand why you wouldn't want to

2/20/2016 8:00:34 PM

MrGreen
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wait

of course it's not a stretch

"stop shooting us" is clearly meant for the police - this is not up for debate

but I still don't see the problem

good cops should agree with "stop shooting us"

2/20/2016 8:55:19 PM

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" if someone pisses you off for any reason at all, i seriously doubt you will be first in line to sign up for overtime to work for that same person"


It's not overtime. It's off-duty work. If it was on-duty work they wouldn't have a choice.

2/20/2016 10:17:11 PM

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"but I still don't see the problem

good cops should agree with "stop shooting us""


Well, because... the only good naggars are dead naggars.

2/21/2016 9:57:23 AM

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""stop shooting us" is clearly meant for the police - this is not up for debate

but I still don't see the problem

good cops should agree with "stop shooting us""


cops in general appeared annoyed with what they believe is an "anti-police" message so if they don't want to work security on their days off I don't blame them

2/21/2016 4:45:29 PM

MrGreen
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why are the police so dumb

http://www.wral.com/police-subjects-in-moore-county-standoff-were-asleep-inside-home/15403332/

2/21/2016 6:37:54 PM

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"Carthage Police Chief said that the man and woman said they were asleep and didn’t know officers were outside their home."



That's what everyone says... "I didn't know you were out there, I didn't hear you, I was asleep."

If you've ever seen the process of these, there is a lot a noise and very loud call outs for "barricaded subjects."





... "These aren't my pants."

2/22/2016 8:43:31 AM

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"That's what everyone says... "I didn't know you were out there, I didn't hear you, I was asleep.""


That was my first reaction as well.

2/22/2016 9:19:34 AM

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With everything that has unfolded this week, I hear a lot about the need for police reform. Thus, I ask you all what reasonable reforms do you want to see?

*like the rest of this thread, let's keep it civil.

7/8/2016 11:12:29 AM

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if the police doesn't like the "stop snitching" mantra of the black community, why do they have the same "stop snitching" attitude when it involves their own? that's one thing I'd like to see changed.

7/8/2016 11:55:20 AM

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http://joincampaignzero.org

7/8/2016 12:02:21 PM

Mtan Man214
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" With everything that has unfolded this week, I hear a lot about the need for police reform. Thus, I ask you all what reasonable reforms do you want to see? "


The top ones for me:
1) Third party oversight. This is the case for some jurisdictions, but I don't see this as a national policy, which I believe it should be. Judges and DAs that interact with these police on a daily basis and have a good professional relationship shouldn't be the same ones to decide inoccence or guilt.

2) Demilitarize police forces. Stop recruiting amongst recent war veterans, stop the federal government programs that hand over military equipment to police forces. Nothing says "we're a part of this community too" like rolling down the streets with heavy weaponry and tanks.

3) Stop fear mongering, especially amongst police. Cops are as much victims in these situations as the people they are victimizing. I understand cops have a dangerous job, but putting them in the mindset that every interaction they have might lead to their death seems really irresponsible.

4) Stop criminalizing everything. So many of these deadly interactions have been from the escalation of relatively petty and unwarranted shit. The cops are doing their jobs, but lawmakers shouldn't make it the job of the police to handle everything from dangerous criminals to kids playing in the park.

5) There should be a nationwide focus on creating more community interaction between police and the people they serve. Some jurisdictions do this and with great results, others tend to see a line between themselves and the public that isn't to be crossed. A lot of people have a complete mistrust of cops, and thats because every interaction they've ever had has been for petty bullshit where the cop is trying to intimidate (as is their job) or in the media, where they went to far.

6) Stop with the blue frat shit. I get that 95% of the cops out there are great men and women, and doing their jobs as best they can, but turning blind eyes to misconduct is whats leading to the hatred amongst so many communities. A lot of people point to these shootings as the cause of movements like BlackLivesMatter, but its not. Its the daily harassment and abuse a lot of these communities face from the 5% of shitty cops out there.
I get that there are "bad performers" in all fields, but that shouldn't be an acceptable standard in every one of them. Shitty waiters, bad mechanics, incompetent delivery drivers are an unfortunate part of life, but when you're in a critical field there shouldn't be an acceptable level of shitty behavior. You wouldn't tolerate being operated on by a bad doctor, so why should we give a badge to a shitty cop?
Bad cops need to go and shouldn't be allowed to stay in the field under any circumstances. Cut out the bottom performers and let them deal with their own shitty attitude, because if you don't the rest of the LEOs are going to have to pay for it.

[Edited on July 8, 2016 at 12:10 PM. Reason : ]

7/8/2016 12:09:28 PM

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^good list

7/8/2016 12:44:19 PM

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^^
Most of those covered here:
http://www.joincampaignzero.org/solutions/#solutionsoverview

7/8/2016 12:50:50 PM

afripino
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body cams are shit....gopro's on their head so we can see what they see.

7/8/2016 1:57:15 PM

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I'm bored; lets get this thread rolling again.

9/15/2016 9:43:43 AM

dtownral
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how do you feel about the cop that got fired for not shooting a dude

9/15/2016 10:01:36 AM

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Well like other shootings, I don't have any other information then what has been reported in the papers, so I can't make a logical conclusion. On face value, sounds fucked up on the Department part. But, there are always two sides to every story.

9/15/2016 10:06:39 AM

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circle those wagons

9/15/2016 10:08:53 AM

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lol.

9/15/2016 10:22:53 AM

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What are you doing to help fight for social justice, given that if you account for violent crime, black people are less likely to be shot than white people? When will this racist policing end? #HandsUpDontShoot

9/15/2016 12:35:16 PM

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When the Unions give it the green light.

9/15/2016 1:24:13 PM

afripino
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why are there some laws that you enforce by the book and others that you don't?

9/15/2016 5:16:18 PM

JCE2011
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Is it hard to remember to turn off your body camera before you shoot a helpless black victim execution style, pig?

9/15/2016 5:44:39 PM

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Why are conservatives so cool with police authority? They are tools of the GOVERNMENT!

9/15/2016 6:42:03 PM

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"why are there some laws that you enforce by the book and others that you don't?"


Could be General Statute, department policy, mission, etc

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Don't got one. But, there is a video of me floating around doing the Monster Mash in dash cam.

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Merica Brah

9/15/2016 9:07:52 PM

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How secretive is your department's policy book? This would be whatever document is referred to whenever a policeman says "this is or is against department policy "

The reason I ask is that several of my attorney friends claim that this policy book is something that the public can't really request a copy of. They claim some of the policies are not legal, and the police know it, thus the secrecy.

9/15/2016 9:41:35 PM

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sorry but um... ^

9/16/2016 1:22:50 AM

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"How secretive is your department's policy book? This would be whatever document is referred to whenever a policeman says "this is or is against department policy ""


It's not. A simple records request will get you it. The only real things that get denied are Records of Investigation (non public), Records of Intelligence, Personnel Records and Sensative Public Safety Informstion (, gate codes, what doors are secured).

9/16/2016 8:02:29 AM

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As still a relatively new officer on the force (<10 years) do you see a change in the effect that these national stories of police shootings are having on the department? Is there any vocal unease about it or is everyone tight lipped and eyes forward so as not to piss off the chain of command?

Do you see more liberal minded officers joining the force or is it still majority who want to play Wyatt Earp?

9/16/2016 8:19:00 AM

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In the last year, I've see about 6 or 7 people leave the Department for regular jobs. That doesn't sound like a lot, but aren't a huge department (~250 sworn). Everyone talks about it. Some get it, some don't. The upper echelon isn't immune and is changing with the time. They have tried some stuff (policy, a required seminar for officers). Again, some works, some doesn't. For me, it's just business as usual.

Liberal or conservative, there ain't to many people signing up right now.

9/16/2016 11:06:21 AM

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