Coach of the Year usually goes to bad coaches because it's awarded to shit teams that have a surprisingly good season.

11/16/2014 4:09:55 PM

The falcons give you a game and we just hand them back the division.

11/16/2014 4:09:56 PM

we lost in a better fashion than where we were at the end of the 3rd quarter

11/16/2014 4:10:09 PM

only a game out of the playoffs

11/16/2014 4:10:58 PM

Officials clearly missed an overloaded side of the defense ont hat kick. Teams can't have more than six on either side of the snapper. Atl had eight.

nevermind only applies to players within one yard of the los

[Edited on November 16, 2014 at 4:13 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2014 4:11:02 PM

dumbest end of game decision making ever

just mind numbing

11/16/2014 4:11:18 PM

If Cam had thrown 3 more interceptions he'd be Eli

11/16/2014 4:15:03 PM

I usually talk shit about Cam, but I have nothing but praise for him after today's game. Played like a veteran. Not his fault

11/16/2014 4:19:26 PM

Fuck Devin Hester, still.

11/16/2014 4:20:11 PM

really looking forward to a new coaching staff next season

11/16/2014 4:20:37 PM

We would've lost by more if Peyton was our QB

[Edited on November 16, 2014 at 4:21 PM. Reason : how terrible are the Mannings?]

11/16/2014 4:20:59 PM

Despite how amazingly shitastic our season has been don't be surprised if we are right back in it next week during our bye. Atlanta plays Cleveland and New Orleans plays Baltimore both are likely to lose putting the division leader at 4-7. That is so sad haha

11/16/2014 4:26:23 PM

the whole game I didnt think they were going to win. they never had the lead.

I didnt expect that this division would be this horrible.

11/16/2014 4:55:14 PM

Quote :

"the whole game I didnt think they were going to win. they never had the lead. "

They did have a lead. 17 to 16.

11/16/2014 4:58:23 PM

And 3-0, right?

Could've been 7-0, but refs missed DPI on ATL in the end zone and yet again we settle for a FG in the red zone

11/16/2014 5:00:13 PM

Cam said the team needed to "nut up"

11/16/2014 5:02:06 PM

ah yea...


....

11/16/2014 5:02:08 PM

team actually did "nut up" after that fight

coaching staff needs to nut up

11/16/2014 5:03:52 PM

I would've like to see JStew get a few more carries, maybe he's not 100% yet?

The offense really needed to punch that long drive in the 1st quarter in, they've had trouble with that all season.

Every time the panthers lose by a missed 4th quarter field goal I'm flooded with disappointing Super Bowl memories. It's gotta be one of the worst ways to lose.

[Edited on November 16, 2014 at 5:22 PM. Reason : The ghost of john Kasay is upon you....]

11/16/2014 5:21:07 PM

I dunno if JStew is 100% or not...I was under the impression he was, but could be wrong. Either way, he's the best RB right now and definitely deserves the majority of the carries.

11/16/2014 5:26:48 PM

so here is what I got...anyone disagree?
N.O.
Baltimore-Loss-4-7 maybe home win? 5-6
@PITT-Loss-4-8 possible win? never know 5-7
Car-Win-5-8 Definite win-6-7
@Chicago-Loss-5-9 Probably win 7-7
Atl-Win-6-9 Probably win 8-7
@TB-Win-7-9 (could win division could tie?) Definite win unless magic 9-7 (Champions for sure)



ATL
Cleveland-Loss-4-7 Maybe they win cause home? 5-6
@Arizona-Loss4-8 No way they win right? 5-7
@Green Bay-Loss-4-9 No Way they win right? 5-8
Pitt-Loss-5-9 Possible win since home? 6-8
@NO-Loss-5-10 No way they beat them there -6-9
Car-Win-5-11 Win (7-9)...tied with NO if they do the left side..7-9 champions or finish 2 games out and say what if...

Lastly there is no freaking way Tampa Bay makes it...but they could finish 2-3 out lol

Now on to the Panthers...
@minn-loss-3-8-1
@NO-loss-3-9-1
TB-Win-4-9-1
Cleveland-5-9-1
@ATL-win and if they do 6-9-1 and the Falcons are 6-10....but finish 1 game behind 7-9 Saints...

Or
Win all but the saints game and 7-8-1

Panthers 7-8-1
Saints-7-9
Falcons 7-9

[Edited on November 16, 2014 at 5:41 PM. Reason : stats]

11/16/2014 5:34:03 PM

^^he is def the best at breaking tackles and getting a few after contact yards, which with our Oline is pretty much a requirement.

11/16/2014 5:36:55 PM

I'm glad a field goal from the five yard line didn't come back to bite us this week.

11/16/2014 6:23:51 PM

If either Atlanta or New Orleans win this week we are done. If both lose (which is the most likely scenario based on this season) then we still have a shot.

11/17/2014 8:38:58 AM

Can I go ahead and bet my house on the away team in the NFC 4/5 game?

11/17/2014 9:36:04 AM

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11890785/should-carolina-panthers-extend-cam-newton-week-11-takeaways-nfl?refresh=true

Quote :

"1. Carolina GM Dave Gettleman is the wild card when it comes to re-signing Newton. Most of the league insiders I've spoken with think the Panthers will re-sign Newton before he becomes a free agent in March 2015. There is at least some thought, however, that if Gettleman were serious about building around Newton, the Panthers would have done more to help the QB this season. Instead, Carolina entered 2014 with less reliable weaponry at wide receiver and with much less talent along the offensive line. Newton hasn't had much chance for success. Two executives said there's no doubt in their minds the Panthers would re-sign Newton to a rich contract if the team followed the pattern established before Gettleman was hired in January 2013. A contract negotiator said Carolina has been widely known for setting the market when paying its own players -- to the point that other teams hoped to get deals done before the Panthers could change the dynamics by raising prices. "They set a new standard when they signed DeAngelo Williams, Charles Johnson and Thomas Davis, and even when they did Ryan Kalil's deal," this negotiator said. "When their guys hit free agency, they go out and pay them. They paid Jordan Gross, too. I would perceive those moves to be owner-driven, but I do not know how their current front-office guys might approach things." Under Gettleman, the Panthers used the franchise tag to keep defensive end Greg Hardy, but that doesn't necessarily mean the team was reluctant to pay Hardy on a long-term deal. Former GM Marty Hurney used the tag to keep Kalil (2011), Julius Peppers (2009) and Jordan Gross (2008). Those players signed longer-term deals after getting the tag. "I think they have to sign Newton and they are going to," the negotiator said. Another negotiator said he thought the Panthers would sign Newton to a deal along the lines of the one Cutler signed. That deal averages $18.1 million per year and has $54 million in guarantees. This negotiator said the decision would be straightforward because the team can win with Newton. An agent said the Hurney-era Panthers "for sure" would have re-signed Newton to a lucrative deal, but the agent was less certain about Gettleman's approach. As the chart below shows, Newton's career through 59 starts lines up almost exactly with Cutler in won-loss record and Total QBR through the same number of games. The chart includes all 13 QBs who made their first 59 starts beginning in 2006 or later. Newton ranks sixth in QBR, but he would rank ninth at 46.5 without rushing plays -- something to consider for those who are fearful Newton's status as a dynamic runner could fade as his body breaks down. Newton has taken roughly twice as many hits as any other quarterback since 2011. The Panthers could wind up making Newton the next Cutler -- a highly paid and highly talented quarterback whose production isn't consistent enough to maximize the investment. The comparison would be fairer to Newton if he enjoyed the kind of supporting cast Cutler has in place with Matt Forte, Brandon Marshall and Alshon Jeffery. Newton, still just 25, also has time on his side. Bottom line: The smart money is that the Panthers will reach an extension with Newton. But it isn't the lock we might have expected entering the season, and there are some concerns in his early-career performance that might make the franchise think twice. 2006-14 QBs Ranked by Total QBR Through First 59 Starts (counting postseason) Rk QB W-L-T Cmp Pct YPA TD INT Rating Rush Yards QBR 1 Aaron Rodgers 38-21-0 65.8 8.3 119 37 103.7 1,021 73.1 2 Matt Ryan 40-19-0 61.3 7.0 87 48 86.8 358 66.7 3 Tony Romo 39-20-0 66.1 8.0 108 54 94.7 389 63.4 4 Philip Rivers 38-21-0 61.5 7.7 91 45 91.8 196 56.0 5 Matthew Stafford 24-35-0 59.6 7.1 110 70 84.2 385 55.9 6 Cam Newton 27-31-1 59.6 7.6 77 54 85.2 2,397 54.3 7 Jay Cutler 27-32-0 61.8 7.3 88 70 83.9 677 54.1 8 Andy Dalton 35-23-1 61.1 7.0 89 61 84.2 591 49.9 9 Joe Flacco 39-20-0 60.1 7.0 71 44 84.5 381 49.4 10 Josh Freeman 24-35-0 58.2 6.9 80 66 78.8 917 48.8 11 Jason Campbell 24-35-0 60.4 6.7 61 44 81.2 880 46.6 12 Matt Cassel 29-30-0 58.8 6.6 78 53 80.5 723 44.7 13 Mark Sanchez 34-25-0 55.2 6.6 72 60 74.9 327 41.7 "

11/17/2014 12:36:28 PM

So basically that just says that the Panthers probably will re-sign Newton, but then again who knows because this is Gettelman and not Hurney.

We'd be crazy not to re-sign him. I know it's gonna cost a lot...but if you want a capable QB you gotta pay. That's just the market.

11/17/2014 1:14:35 PM

Quote :

""They set a new standard when they signed DeAngelo Williams, Charles Johnson and Thomas Davis, and even when they did Ryan Kalil's deal," this negotiator said. "When their guys hit free agency, they go out and pay them. They paid Jordan Gross, too. I would perceive those moves to be owner-driven, but I do not know how their current front-office guys might approach things.""

Yep, the same contracts that have the team strapped for cap space now. Those worked out fantastic. GREAT JOB MARTY HURNEY.

11/17/2014 1:19:26 PM

would anyone here be in favor of starting Anderson?

I could see Gettleman dropping Cam and getting DA resigned on a cheaper contract for a few years to free cap space to rebuild our other weak areas.

11/17/2014 1:20:23 PM

no because I watch football on a weekly basis and also remember what it's like to have a mediocre quarterback

11/17/2014 1:26:42 PM

god no

as much shit as I give $cam, he's still the best we're gonna do without completely starting over and risking wasting a draft pick. even shit QBs like cutler are valued, and Cam has more talent, he just isn't getting decent coaching (and I really can't blame him given the lack of talent around him other than Kelvin).

also, fuck hurney for all of those shit contracts, ESPECIALLY williams

11/17/2014 1:27:16 PM

I agree completely. I saw some stats talking about how many times he's been hit/touched/sacked this season and its insane. Not to mention receivers dropping balls all over the place. Kelvin and Olsen are legit but our other speed positions are all old. Also agree that Williams (I'll add Stewart in there too) contracts were insane and really fuck us

11/17/2014 1:35:22 PM

Quote :

"would anyone here be in favor of starting Anderson? I could see Gettleman dropping Cam and getting DA resigned on a cheaper contract for a few years to free cap space to rebuild our other weak areas."

No. That would be terrible. QBs are too hard to come by to not re-sign Cam and then put your full faith in Derek Anderson.

11/17/2014 1:35:38 PM

We're about to pull a Cowboys. Rebuild the team via 1st round OL picks for the next 3 years.

11/17/2014 2:22:21 PM

I wouldnt be surprised if they try to lowball Cam compared to what he thinks he is gonna get and be willing to let him walk if he demands too much. Then they will just turn around and say look at this past season he wasnt worth the amount he wanted and we cant give one player that much money if he isnt producting at a much higher level.

I think they get a deal done, but I also hope its a reasonable one.

11/17/2014 2:26:23 PM

code

11/17/2014 2:31:50 PM

Quote :

"We're about to pull a Cowboys. Rebuild the team via 1st round OL picks for the next 3 years."

I remember reading a while back how when Gettleman was with the Giants in the front office, their philosophy was to never spend a first round pick on an OL. I'm too lazy to look up the truth behind that. But geez, you gotta start somewhere. If we don't get an o-lineman with the first or second pick then Cam is doomed.

I think one reason Cam takes so many hits is because he holds on too long to the ball. Of course half of that reason could be because his receivers aren't getting any separation

[Edited on November 17, 2014 at 4:15 PM. Reason : ]

11/17/2014 4:14:24 PM

Quote :

"no because I watch football on a weekly basis and also remember what it's like to have a mediocre quarterback"

wouldn't that be a good reason to start anderson?

11/17/2014 4:22:08 PM

my prediction for our first rounder next year is DE

11/17/2014 6:40:53 PM

After drafting Ealy last year? Secondary and OL are still the most glaring needs IMO.

11/17/2014 6:54:39 PM

lol Avant complains about play-calling, gets cut

11/18/2014 12:26:15 PM

Damn, I actually like Avant. Guess Philly Brown is moving on up.

Maybe it's the optimist in me, but as bad as this team looks, they're really not that far away from being good. Assuming Cam climbs out of his funk, we need to do three things this offseason:

1. Sign/draft a legit LT and move Bell back to RT (where he doesn't completely suck)

2. Sign/draft a SS that can actually run and cover to replace Harper

3. Sign/draft a pass rusher. The defense's biggest problem this year isn't the secondary; it's the deplorable pass rush.


All that seems pretty reasonable. Adding another good WR and CB couldn't hurt, but it's not nearly as pressing. Of course, us being good is all dependent on Cam not sucking.

11/18/2014 12:38:15 PM

it's not like his play has been down inside of a vacuum

there are multiple, (possibly) easy fixes to get his game back on track

[Edited on November 18, 2014 at 12:43 PM. Reason : of course it's all dependent on picking the right personnel ]

11/18/2014 12:41:40 PM

Right. Last year, everything clicked. The secondary full of journeymen ended up being solid. Especially given the really strong front 7. Seems like we went all in on the strategy again...secondary full of cheaper veterans and journeymen while franchise tagging Hardy. Hardy gets suspended. This year's secondary is worse than 2013's. And, defensively, things snowballed.

Offensively, we knew the OL was gonna be worse. It got worse in the offseason and little was done to remedy those losses up front. Losing a vet like Steve Smith hurts, but the WR position isn't significantly worse than it was in 2013 (that's not saying much). Sure they've dropped a few passes. But the WRs dropped passes last year too.

11/18/2014 1:11:45 PM

Steelers released LeGarrette Blount

11/18/2014 1:24:55 PM

WHAT THE MUTHA hell are we doing releasing people? If we released all who cared about play calling the entire stadium would be "released"

11/18/2014 6:19:39 PM

He got released because the Panthers need to play WRs who can run fast.

He and Cotchery are basically the same player. Apparently they like him more than Avant.

11/18/2014 7:12:54 PM

^Yeah that too

Avant's been barely noticeable.

11/18/2014 7:21:14 PM

^^ all Greg is would be an possession receiver who can't have any YAC ever correct?

I think it boils down to criticizing to be honest. Just like with Bill Rosinski and why he got fired.

11/18/2014 7:32:53 PM

Quote :

"He got released because the Panthers need to play WRs who can run fast"

yeeeeeeh sure

11/18/2014 7:37:05 PM